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Housing Finance: HFCK a diamond in the rough
littledove
#2401 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2024 8:01:44 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
HF wants more of @Obiero's money

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/markets/capital-markets/hf-turns-to-shareholders-to-resolve-capital-woes-4724058
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
obiero
#2402 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2024 12:04:08 PM
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Location: nairobi

https://www.hfgroup.co.k...13_08_2024.e2f4fb21.pdf

We have an EGM on 04.09.2024

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
mlennyma
#2403 Posted : Saturday, August 17, 2024 6:16:10 AM
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The market is not very active,I don't know whether they will succeed
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
obiero
#2404 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2024 7:13:07 PM
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Location: nairobi
mlennyma wrote:

The market is not very active,I don't know whether they will succeed

Britam has already confirmed participation. Recall that in the last cash call, 3B was returned to shareholders as an oversubscription

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#2405 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2024 11:54:20 PM
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Posts: 18,101
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

The market is not very active,I don't know whether they will succeed

Britam has already confirmed participation. Recall that in the last cash call, 3B was returned to shareholders as an oversubscription

2024 is very different from pre-2020 (COVID)
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#2406 Posted : Wednesday, October 02, 2024 8:41:51 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,507
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

The market is not very active,I don't know whether they will succeed

Britam has already confirmed participation. Recall that in the last cash call, 3B was returned to shareholders as an oversubscription

2024 is very different from pre-2020 (COVID)

95% of existing shareholders have approved the exercise. whatever happens happens

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#2407 Posted : Wednesday, October 02, 2024 12:18:45 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
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Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

The market is not very active,I don't know whether they will succeed

Britam has already confirmed participation. Recall that in the last cash call, 3B was returned to shareholders as an oversubscription

2024 is very different from pre-2020 (COVID)

95% of existing shareholders have approved the exercise. whatever happens happens
Good Luck
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#2408 Posted : Saturday, October 12, 2024 7:11:29 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

The market is not very active,I don't know whether they will succeed

Britam has already confirmed participation. Recall that in the last cash call, 3B was returned to shareholders as an oversubscription

2024 is very different from pre-2020 (COVID)

95% of existing shareholders have approved the exercise. whatever happens happens


More pain and delay of Britam shareholders in receiving a dividend.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#2409 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2024 5:52:58 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,507
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

The market is not very active,I don't know whether they will succeed

Britam has already confirmed participation. Recall that in the last cash call, 3B was returned to shareholders as an oversubscription

2024 is very different from pre-2020 (COVID)

95% of existing shareholders have approved the exercise. whatever happens happens


More pain and delay of Britam shareholders in receiving a dividend.

Conjecture

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#2410 Posted : Tuesday, November 12, 2024 9:15:28 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,507
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

The market is not very active,I don't know whether they will succeed

Britam has already confirmed participation. Recall that in the last cash call, 3B was returned to shareholders as an oversubscription

2024 is very different from pre-2020 (COVID)

95% of existing shareholders have approved the exercise. whatever happens happens


More pain and delay of Britam shareholders in receiving a dividend.

Conjecture

KES 4 per share rights. >95% success rate incoming

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#2411 Posted : Saturday, November 16, 2024 8:02:27 AM
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Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

The market is not very active,I don't know whether they will succeed

Britam has already confirmed participation. Recall that in the last cash call, 3B was returned to shareholders as an oversubscription

2024 is very different from pre-2020 (COVID)

95% of existing shareholders have approved the exercise. whatever happens happens


More pain and delay of Britam shareholders in receiving a dividend.

Conjecture

KES 4 per share rights. >95% success rate incoming


Obiero predictions are easily pre-determined.
The outcome is already known
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#2412 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2024 7:22:12 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,507
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

The market is not very active,I don't know whether they will succeed

Britam has already confirmed participation. Recall that in the last cash call, 3B was returned to shareholders as an oversubscription

2024 is very different from pre-2020 (COVID)

95% of existing shareholders have approved the exercise. whatever happens happens


More pain and delay of Britam shareholders in receiving a dividend.

Conjecture

KES 4 per share rights. >95% success rate incoming


Obiero predictions are easily pre-determined.
The outcome is already known

How many HFCKR have traded since the issue was opened? What is the last day of trading HFCKR? Did the top 10 shareholders agree to defend their rights? Watch and learn

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
mlennyma
#2413 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2024 11:11:03 AM
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Joined: 7/21/2010
Posts: 6,183
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

The market is not very active,I don't know whether they will succeed

Britam has already confirmed participation. Recall that in the last cash call, 3B was returned to shareholders as an oversubscription




2024 is very different from pre-2020 (COVID)

95% of existing shareholders have approved the exercise. whatever happens happens


It it witchcraft, who is buying this thing 🤣

More pain and delay of Britam shareholders in receiving a dividend.

Conjecture

KES 4 per share rights. >95% success rate incoming


Obiero predictions are easily pre-determined.
The outcome is already known

How many HFCKR have traded since the issue was opened? What is the last day of trading HFCKR? Did the top 10 shareholders agree to defend their rights? Watch and learn

No go zone for me
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#2414 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2024 11:13:26 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,101
Location: Nairobi
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

The market is not very active,I don't know whether they will succeed

Britam has already confirmed participation. Recall that in the last cash call, 3B was returned to shareholders as an oversubscription




2024 is very different from pre-2020 (COVID)

95% of existing shareholders have approved the exercise. whatever happens happens


It it witchcraft, who is buying this thing 🤣

More pain and delay of Britam shareholders in receiving a dividend.

Conjecture

KES 4 per share rights. >95% success rate incoming


Obiero predictions are easily pre-determined.
The outcome is already known

How many HFCKR have traded since the issue was opened? What is the last day of trading HFCKR? Did the top 10 shareholders agree to defend their rights? Watch and learn

No go zone for me
Bingo! One can buy stocks like ABSA which pay dividends.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#2415 Posted : Sunday, November 24, 2024 1:48:18 PM
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Posts: 13,507
Location: nairobi
Capital appreciation for me holds more importance. I don't need peanut dividend at the moment because I am still young

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#2416 Posted : Monday, November 25, 2024 8:57:07 AM
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Posts: 18,101
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Capital appreciation for me holds more importance. I don't need peanut dividend at the moment because I am still young
Good luck.

Let's compare ABSA vs HF total return in Nov 2029 smile
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
DtheK
#2417 Posted : Monday, November 25, 2024 1:59:12 PM
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Location: Kenya
Proposal to increase KE banks core capital to 10B by 2027(potential for more cash calls)
Britam has loaned to HFCK at 20%.
There are other cheap banks with sufficient even excess capital(therefore dividends).
A pass. Admire Obiero's conviction though.
obiero
#2418 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2024 7:31:56 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,507
Location: nairobi
DtheK wrote:
Proposal to increase KE banks core capital to 10B by 2027(potential for more cash calls)
Britam has loaned to HFCK at 20%.
There are other cheap banks with sufficient even excess capital(therefore dividends).
A pass. Admire Obiero's conviction though.

Tomorrow, a profit announcement is delivered KES 460m PBT, 77% growth YoY

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#2419 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2024 9:10:09 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,101
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
DtheK wrote:
Proposal to increase KE banks core capital to 10B by 2027(potential for more cash calls)
Britam has loaned to HFCK at 20%.
There are other cheap banks with sufficient even excess capital(therefore dividends).
A pass. Admire Obiero's conviction though.

Tomorrow, a profit announcement is delivered KES 460m PBT, 77% growth YoY

There is probably a single Equity branch that made more than 460mn PAT Laughing out loudly
HF will really need to ramp up its profits to have the same EPS pre-Rights. I hope it does.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#2420 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2024 10:06:48 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
DtheK wrote:
Proposal to increase KE banks core capital to 10B by 2027(potential for more cash calls)
Britam has loaned to HFCK at 20%.
There are other cheap banks with sufficient even excess capital(therefore dividends).
A pass. Admire Obiero's conviction though.

Tomorrow, a profit announcement is delivered KES 460m PBT, 77% growth YoY


Profit before tax ksh.312mn
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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