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Upcoming Agricultural AGMs
VituVingiSana
#1 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:02:23 PM
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@the deal - Even I protested at the lousy dividend from WTK. See my earlier posts! In the Williamson matter I fully support Aly Khan Satchu. I hope he makes a lot of noise at the AGM. I hope all Wazuans with WTK shares show up at the AGM.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:13:20 AM
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In the agricultural sector the key to survival is to be cash rich - to always hav allot of cash in the reserves. And with unga beign in the agriculturals they know this first hand and the huge dividends some of yot ar expecting u'll b so so so disappointed.wtk,sasini retaind allot of cash which is quite evident in their divident payout.....just a word of caution.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#3 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:39:55 AM
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qw, a bonus might also do
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VituVingiSana
#4 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:16:34 AM
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Unga is not an 'agricultural' firm but an industrial firm. It has no farms. Calling Unga an agrcultural firm is like calling EA Cables a mining firm coz it uses mostly copper + aluminium in making cables...
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:20:45 AM
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The same goes for Mumias
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qw25041985
#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:23:25 AM
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I meant its an ' agricultural ' firm because its core business depends on agriculture thats growing of maize. I hope u get the connection between the two.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:28:35 AM
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Unga is not an 'agricultural' firm but an industrial firm. It has no farms. Calling Unga an agrcultural firm is like calling EA Cables a mining firm coz it uses mostly copper + aluminium in making cables...
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VituVingiSana
#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:36:08 AM
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qw25041985 wrote:
I meant its an ' agricultural ' firm because its core business depends on agriculture thats growing of maize. I hope u get the connection between the two.
Using this definition, many Kenyan firms are 'agricultural' since the business is heavily dependent on agriculture...

- CMC sells tractors, pickups to farmers for business use.
- NBK, KCB, Equity all lend significant amounts to farmers, mama mbogas, miraa transporters, horticulture exporters
- KQ is Kenya's largest carrier for 'food' to Europe & Middle East
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kyt
#9 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:58:05 AM
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vvs-profound analysis. indeed well put
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:13:48 AM
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CDSC have just sent me a short message of book closure for WTK on 10th August,for me a painful reminder of directors who might have done better.That AGM on 17 August at 2.30 pm is one i cant wait for,i need an explanation.
qw25041985
#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:15:00 AM
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@vvs .u either took an overdose of something illegal or u hav completly refusd to think. Ofcoarse Unga is an industrial but it depends on agriculture. fullstop.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:07:52 PM
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cnn wrote:
CDSC have just sent me a short message of book closure for WTK on 10th August,for me a painful reminder of directors who might have done better.That AGM on 17 August at 2.30 pm is one i cant wait for,i need an explanation.
Damn straight... I will be there, will you?

I will vote REJECT or NO to the dividend... I wud rather get no dividend then acquiesce to the Board unless there is a very good reason...
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cnn
#13 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:17:39 PM
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The only problem is ,are there enough shareholders to vote NO? .I am still waiting for the annual report to see the current shareholder structure.
VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:20:57 PM
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cnn wrote:
The only problem is ,are there enough shareholders to vote NO? .I am still waiting for the annual report to see the current shareholder structure.
The Board will win coz 50%+ but there should be a protest vote for NO...
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:34:16 PM
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@ Vuvusela, whether you vote no or yes, the final decision is with the major shareholders.
1 share = 1 vote

You may be there in thousands but for example the first 10 major shareholders vote yes and their shares are more than those of the shareholders in attendance, the No will be defeated. Unless WTL get support from some major shareholders.
youcan'tstopusnow
#16 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:12:52 PM
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That's why it is called a protest vote
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cnn
#17 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:43:29 PM
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It might not be what they want to hear ,but they must be told and they must explain.
VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:54:12 AM
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atiriri wrote:
@ Vuvusela, whether you vote no or yes, the final decision is with the major shareholders.
1 share = 1 vote

You may be there in thousands but for example the first 10 major shareholders vote yes and their shares are more than those of the shareholders in attendance, the No will be defeated. Unless WTL get support from some major shareholders.
You must be daft. Very daft. Of course, we would lose [I said as much] coz 'parent' who controls the Board has 50%+.

Unless WTL get support from some major shareholders.
What does that even mean?
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cnn
#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:08:21 PM
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Kakuzi has seen 1% of its issued shares traded a few minutes ago at 80.I cant wait for their half year results.Meanwhile in a couple of hours i need to hear what WTK directors want to do with the cash they held back from shareholders.
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