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KCB 2018 and Beyond
My 2 cents
#631 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2022 1:12:56 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 6/2/2010
Posts: 1,089
sparkly wrote:
watesh wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
DRC acquisition and entry has gone quiet.
Are they finding challenges or developed cold feet

TMB inside. Additional USD 1.5B in new assets from TMB plus increase of 110 more branches, total branch count across the group to now stand at 462 across EAC


I have feelings about this acquisition. Don't know whether it is just a money grab by insiders, whether the investment makes sense and whether it has been made at a competitive price. Share price is also not excited by the move.


In terms of price, they were always going to pay a premium as compared to what Equity paid. Equity had the benefit of the pandemic jitters sweetening the deal. TMB was the best they could get in that market, the only better option is Rawbank.
TMB offers a good starting ground in terms of reach all over the country, good tech in place, solid mass market customer base of almost 3 million accounts (Equity BCDC 1.2m) and a 10% market share (3rd in the market).
In the short term, it will be very expensive (acquisition + capital injection) but if things remain peaceful in DRC, there is proper money to be made.


Purchase at 1.49 of Book Value seems abit pricey when Kenyan banks are trading at 0.6 book value.


My concern seems to have a basis. KCB is making these acquisitions at exorbitant pricing. Who benefits?
Meanwhile ABSA has also been coming up with projects to spend billions.
In 2019/2020 - More than 1.5B for Branding!
Latest in pipeline - 2B for new sofware Shame on you
heri
#632 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2022 1:21:34 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 9/14/2011
Posts: 869
Location: nairobi
My 2 cents wrote:
sparkly wrote:
watesh wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
DRC acquisition and entry has gone quiet.
Are they finding challenges or developed cold feet

TMB inside. Additional USD 1.5B in new assets from TMB plus increase of 110 more branches, total branch count across the group to now stand at 462 across EAC


I have feelings about this acquisition. Don't know whether it is just a money grab by insiders, whether the investment makes sense and whether it has been made at a competitive price. Share price is also not excited by the move.


In terms of price, they were always going to pay a premium as compared to what Equity paid. Equity had the benefit of the pandemic jitters sweetening the deal. TMB was the best they could get in that market, the only better option is Rawbank.
TMB offers a good starting ground in terms of reach all over the country, good tech in place, solid mass market customer base of almost 3 million accounts (Equity BCDC 1.2m) and a 10% market share (3rd in the market).
In the short term, it will be very expensive (acquisition + capital injection) but if things remain peaceful in DRC, there is proper money to be made.


Purchase at 1.49 of Book Value seems abit pricey when Kenyan banks are trading at 0.6 book value.


My concern seems to have a basis. KCB is making these acquisitions at exorbitant pricing. Who benefits?
Meanwhile ABSA has also been coming up with projects to spend billions.
In 2019/2020 - More than 1.5B for Branding!
Latest in pipeline - 2B for new sofware Shame on you
3.5B procurement deals in quick succession.
Ericsson
#633 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2022 6:07:22 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
DRC acquisition and entry has gone quiet.
Are they finding challenges or developed cold feet

TMB inside. Additional USD 1.5B in new assets from TMB plus increase of 110 more branches, total branch count across the group to now stand at 462 across EAC


And TMB becomes the second largest subsidiary in the KCB Group family
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#634 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2022 6:15:39 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
My 2 cents wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
DRC acquisition and entry has gone quiet.
Are they finding challenges or developed cold feet

TMB inside. Additional USD 1.5B in new assets from TMB plus increase of 110 more branches, total branch count across the group to now stand at 462 across EAC


I mixed have feelings about this acquisition. Don't know whether it is just a money grab by insiders, whether the investment makes sense and whether it has been made at a competitive price. Share price is also not excited by the move.


It's a good move,time will reveal.
The elections overhang is what is keeping share prices depressed.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#635 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2022 10:10:56 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
My 2 cents wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
DRC acquisition and entry has gone quiet.
Are they finding challenges or developed cold feet

TMB inside. Additional USD 1.5B in new assets from TMB plus increase of 110 more branches, total branch count across the group to now stand at 462 across EAC


I mixed have feelings about this acquisition. Don't know whether it is just a money grab by insiders, whether the investment makes sense and whether it has been made at a competitive price. Share price is also not excited by the move.


Share price dropping below ksh.40 is over for now
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#636 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2022 5:44:35 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
DRC acquisition and entry has gone quiet.
Are they finding challenges or developed cold feet

TMB inside. Additional USD 1.5B in new assets from TMB plus increase of 110 more branches, total branch count across the group to now stand at 462 across EAC


I mixed have feelings about this acquisition. Don't know whether it is just a money grab by insiders, whether the investment makes sense and whether it has been made at a competitive price. Share price is also not excited by the move.


Share price dropping below ksh.40 is over for now

Possibly touching KES 50 is the new reality

KQ ABP 4.26
Ericsson
#637 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2022 5:40:35 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
DRC acquisition and entry has gone quiet.
Are they finding challenges or developed cold feet

TMB inside. Additional USD 1.5B in new assets from TMB plus increase of 110 more branches, total branch count across the group to now stand at 462 across EAC


I mixed have feelings about this acquisition. Don't know whether it is just a money grab by insiders, whether the investment makes sense and whether it has been made at a competitive price. Share price is also not excited by the move.


Share price dropping below ksh.40 is over for now

Possibly touching KES 50 is the new reality


Let's see if it will breakthrough the ksh.43 resistance level and hit 45
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#638 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2022 6:28:54 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
DRC acquisition and entry has gone quiet.
Are they finding challenges or developed cold feet

TMB inside. Additional USD 1.5B in new assets from TMB plus increase of 110 more branches, total branch count across the group to now stand at 462 across EAC


I mixed have feelings about this acquisition. Don't know whether it is just a money grab by insiders, whether the investment makes sense and whether it has been made at a competitive price. Share price is also not excited by the move.


Share price dropping below ksh.40 is over for now

Possibly touching KES 50 is the new reality


Let's see if it will breakthrough the ksh.43 resistance level and hit 45

On Friday KES 42.5 printed, so KES 43 is a given.. Let's see how tomorrow plays out coz H2 announcement Thursday next week should further energize it

KQ ABP 4.26
My 2 cents
#639 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2022 12:32:35 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 6/2/2010
Posts: 1,089
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
DRC acquisition and entry has gone quiet.
Are they finding challenges or developed cold feet

TMB inside. Additional USD 1.5B in new assets from TMB plus increase of 110 more branches, total branch count across the group to now stand at 462 across EAC


I mixed have feelings about this acquisition. Don't know whether it is just a money grab by insiders, whether the investment makes sense and whether it has been made at a competitive price. Share price is also not excited by the move.


Share price dropping below ksh.40 is over for now

Possibly touching KES 50 is the new reality


Let's see if it will breakthrough the ksh.43 resistance level and hit 45

On Friday KES 42.5 printed, so KES 43 is a given.. Let's see how tomorrow plays out coz H2 announcement Thursday next week should further energize it


Especially if they pay an interim of 1.5
Am still holding out for that 50 cent that they withheld at full year whilst all other tier ones went back to pre-covid dividend levels.
Ericsson
#640 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2022 8:05:24 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
DRC acquisition and entry has gone quiet.
Are they finding challenges or developed cold feet

TMB inside. Additional USD 1.5B in new assets from TMB plus increase of 110 more branches, total branch count across the group to now stand at 462 across EAC


I mixed have feelings about this acquisition. Don't know whether it is just a money grab by insiders, whether the investment makes sense and whether it has been made at a competitive price. Share price is also not excited by the move.


Share price dropping below ksh.40 is over for now

Possibly touching KES 50 is the new reality


Let's see if it will breakthrough the ksh.43 resistance level and hit 45

On Friday KES 42.5 printed, so KES 43 is a given.. Let's see how tomorrow plays out coz H2 announcement Thursday next week should further energize it


A high of 44 printed,it closed the day at lower end of 42
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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