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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Dear Investor, your COUPON for Issue FXD2/2018/010 has been Paid to your Bank Account No ending ...4019 on 14-06-2021
I received this message yesterday but it has not reflected yet in my account.
Normally when you get the message,it's always in the account.Today is very different. Wololo ... Govt is broke... True they do not delay payments ever. @Maka,what's wrong with CBK this time? I have not seen anything in my account yet despite getting the message on Monday. Maka is an insider at CBK I have called them.They say it's a system error. Money will come on Monday. Was the credit effected @Ebenyo? Not yet.i tried to call them but it was not going through. I managed to talk with the person who pays today.The issue has been solved and I have got my interest. There was a delay on the part of my bank.So no blame on CBK.they sent interest on time. Which bank is this? Co-asking....Very weird behaviour. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Dear Investor, your COUPON for Issue FXD2/2018/010 has been Paid to your Bank Account No ending ...4019 on 14-06-2021
I received this message yesterday but it has not reflected yet in my account.
Normally when you get the message,it's always in the account.Today is very different. Wololo ... Govt is broke... True they do not delay payments ever. @Maka,what's wrong with CBK this time? I have not seen anything in my account yet despite getting the message on Monday. Maka is an insider at CBK I have called them.They say it's a system error. Money will come on Monday. Was the credit effected @Ebenyo? Not yet.i tried to call them but it was not going through. I managed to talk with the person who pays today.The issue has been solved and I have got my interest. There was a delay on the part of my bank.So no blame on CBK.they sent interest on time. Which bank is this? Co-asking....Very weird behaviour. Post Bank  Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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https://www.businessdail...at-sh50-billion-3453090
Bonds whose tenor is more than 5 years the minimum threshold is ksh.75bn Bonds less than 5 years threshold is ksh.50bn Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/markets/capital-markets/bond-issuance-threshold-to-be-set-at-sh50-billion-3453090
Bonds whose tenor is more than 5 years the minimum threshold is ksh.75bn
Bonds less than 5 years threshold is ksh.50bn  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Ericsson wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Dear Investor, your COUPON for Issue FXD2/2018/010 has been Paid to your Bank Account No ending ...4019 on 14-06-2021
I received this message yesterday but it has not reflected yet in my account.
Normally when you get the message,it's always in the account.Today is very different. Wololo ... Govt is broke... True they do not delay payments ever. @Maka,what's wrong with CBK this time? I have not seen anything in my account yet despite getting the message on Monday. Maka is an insider at CBK I have called them.They say it's a system error. Money will come on Monday. Was the credit effected @Ebenyo? Not yet.i tried to call them but it was not going through. I managed to talk with the person who pays today.The issue has been solved and I have got my interest. There was a delay on the part of my bank.So no blame on CBK.they sent interest on time. Which bank is this? Co-asking....Very weird behaviour. Post Bank Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/13/2006 Posts: 123
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Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,220 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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pops wrote:Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline. Go to your bank armed with the T/Bill Issue number, CDS account no., amount payable(you can call CBK for this and ask for National Debt Department) Your bank will process the RTGS on your behalf, in favour of CBK. You need to go there early enough before cut-off. @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/13/2006 Posts: 123
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:pops wrote:Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline. Go to your bank armed with the T/Bill Issue number, CDS account no., amount payable(you can call CBK for this and ask for National Debt Department) Your bank will process the RTGS on your behalf, in favour of CBK. You need to go there early enough before cut-off. Very helpful. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/21/2015 Posts: 151
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sparkly wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:pops wrote:Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline. Go to your bank armed with the T/Bill Issue number, CDS account no., amount payable(you can call CBK for this and ask for National Debt Department) Your bank will process the RTGS on your behalf, in favour of CBK. You need to go there early enough before cut-off. Very helpful. How does one send in an application for bonds online?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Christmas comes early.... Longest IFB ... Please please if you have a CBK acc please purchase this... It will be good for secondary trading. https://www.centralbank....0DATED%2013-09-2021.pdf
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:pops wrote:Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline. Go to your bank armed with the T/Bill Issue number, CDS account no., amount payable(you can call CBK for this and ask for National Debt Department) Your bank will process the RTGS on your behalf, in favour of CBK. You need to go there early enough before cut-off. The receiving bank is CBK... The receiving account number is your virtual account no at CBK. On the narration bit : Add the Issue no e.g FXD 1/2021/20 plus Application number: The one that you get on text or on the bond bidders report you get email.... You can request the bond bidders report by emailing CBK using this address.... primaryissues@centralbank.go.kepossunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/2/2010 Posts: 1,066
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I have been investing in the NSE for close to 20 years and my effective return rate is less than 10% including dividends. I know we are in a never ending bear market but the irony is not lost on me that had I been purchasing long dated bonds, I would have better returns. So much for stock for the long run. In Kenya the vast population invests in Real Estate and that where the price appreciation is due to demand.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 564 Location: Britain
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Thanks Maka for your thumbs-up on this IFB. What is your prediction on the market determined coupon rate?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/2/2010 Posts: 1,066
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Queen wrote:Thanks Maka for your thumps-up on this IFB. What is your prediction on the market determined coupon rate? Upwards of 12.50% - 12.70% Too much liquidity in the market. This will be oversubscribed like crazy... There has been a huge upsurge of uncompetitive bids during primary auctions this will play a big part on how the competitive bids will eventually be cast... Most guys will prefer not to be too aggressive so that you don't miss out. They might squeeze auction bid rates take a smaller amount than the 75 Bn then do a tap sale.... If this happens the drop in rates for the other IFBs will massively shift downwards... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 564 Location: Britain
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maka wrote:Queen wrote:Thanks Maka for your thumps-up on this IFB. What is your prediction on the market determined coupon rate? Upwards of 12.50% - 12.70% Too much liquidity in the market. This will be oversubscribed like crazy... There has been a huge upsurge of uncompetitive bids during primary auctions this will play a big part on how the competitive bids will eventually be cast... Most guys will prefer not to be too aggressive so that you don't miss out. They might squeeze auction bid rates take a smaller amount than the 75 Bn then do a tap sale.... If this happens the drop in rates for the other IFBs will massively shift downwards... Thank you.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Interest for paper no FXD 1/2020/015 has checked in Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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AndyC wrote:sparkly wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:pops wrote:Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline. Go to your bank armed with the T/Bill Issue number, CDS account no., amount payable(you can call CBK for this and ask for National Debt Department) Your bank will process the RTGS on your behalf, in favour of CBK. You need to go there early enough before cut-off. Very helpful. How does one send in an application for bonds online? Do you have a CBK CDS account and in Diaspora ,? Download application form from CBK website,fill it and email to NDO@centralbank.go.ke. work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Tokyo wrote:AndyC wrote:sparkly wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:pops wrote:Anyone can guide me how to settle for a T-bill bid. I have been allocated T-bills, but do not know how to pay for them.
Any guidance would be appreciated as Monday is the deadline. Go to your bank armed with the T/Bill Issue number, CDS account no., amount payable(you can call CBK for this and ask for National Debt Department) Your bank will process the RTGS on your behalf, in favour of CBK. You need to go there early enough before cut-off. Very helpful. How does one send in an application for bonds online? Do you have a CBK CDS account and in Diaspora ,? Download application form from CBK website,fill it and email to NDO@centralbank.go.ke. Please make sure you have an efficient bank to process the payment if you are successful with your bid or you will have to do a proper explanation as to why you weren't able to pay on time... A few hours to go... Throw in your applications. possunt quia posse videntur
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