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Housing Finance: HFCK a diamond in the rough
obiero
#2081 Posted : Sunday, April 25, 2021 6:11:11 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
HFCK
Q1--7mn
Q2--loss of 300mn

Q3--loss of 435mn

Q4--Loss of 1.049bn

FY2020 Loss of kes.1.775bn


Any hope for resurrection? tricky ,,without a takeover

It is highly salvageable. I’m buying this thing, in anticipation of a buyout

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#2082 Posted : Friday, May 07, 2021 12:35:18 PM
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https://www.standardmedi...;amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

The mall has no anchor tenant after exit of Tuskys
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#2083 Posted : Sunday, May 16, 2021 12:49:59 PM
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HFCK to sell its iconic headquarters building.
The damage done to this company during Frank Ireri regime is irreversible.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
mlennyma
#2084 Posted : Monday, May 17, 2021 12:24:00 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
HFCK to sell its iconic headquarters building.
The damage done to this company during Frank Ireri regime is irreversible.


the sad part is that I have not heard of any case against anyone
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
littledove
#2085 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2021 10:29:58 AM
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just realized im among top 40 shareholders of housing finance, i have bought alot between 3.30 and 4.
Out of simple research i realized they have reduced their borrowing significantly from around 16billion 2017, around 13b 2018, around 6b 2019 and around 4b 2020
or im i missing something?
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
VituVingiSana
#2086 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2021 10:32:43 AM
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littledove wrote:
just realized im among top 40 shareholders of housing finance, i have bought alot between 3.30 and 4.
Out of simple research i realized they have reduced their borrowing significantly from around 16billion 2017, around 13b 2018, around 6b 2019 and around 4b 2020
or im i missing something?
Congrats! And good luck. I do hope you get an awesome return.

Disclaimer: I don't have HF
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#2087 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2021 12:00:15 PM
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littledove wrote:
just realized im among top 40 shareholders of housing finance, i have bought alot between 3.30 and 4.
Out of simple research i realized they have reduced their borrowing significantly from around 16billion 2017, around 13b 2018, around 6b 2019 and around 4b 2020
or im i missing something?

Congrats on your attaining top 40 at HF. Reminds me of Top 40 at 40, Top 50 at 50, and so on and so forth.
I challenge every wazuan to strive to be among the top shareholders in a company of interest after doing sufficient due diligence.
In my years of investing, i have come to realise that 20% of the effort is between knowing when to buy, what to buy and finally when to sell. The remaining 80% goes to patience.
@SufficientlyP
VituVingiSana
#2088 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2021 12:36:16 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
littledove wrote:
just realized im among top 40 shareholders of housing finance, i have bought alot between 3.30 and 4.
Out of simple research i realized they have reduced their borrowing significantly from around 16billion 2017, around 13b 2018, around 6b 2019 and around 4b 2020
or im i missing something?

Congrats on your attaining top 40 at HF. Reminds me of Top 40 at 40, Top 50 at 50, and so on and so forth.
I challenge every wazuan to strive to be among the top shareholders in a company of interest after doing sufficient due diligence.
In my years of investing, i have come to realise that 20% of the effort is between knowing when to buy, what to buy and finally when to sell. The remaining 80% goes to patience.
Applause Applause Applause Wisdom ya Warren Buffett!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#2089 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2021 4:31:39 PM
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littledove wrote:
just realized im among top 40 shareholders of housing finance, i have bought alot between 3.30 and 4.
Out of simple research i realized they have reduced their borrowing significantly from around 16billion 2017, around 13b 2018, around 6b 2019 and around 4b 2020
or im i missing something?


Congratulations. You deserve a board position.
Life is short. Live passionately.
cyruskulei
#2090 Posted : Friday, July 02, 2021 10:20:21 AM
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sparkly wrote:
littledove wrote:
just realized im among top 40 shareholders of housing finance, i have bought alot between 3.30 and 4.
Out of simple research i realized they have reduced their borrowing significantly from around 16billion 2017, around 13b 2018, around 6b 2019 and around 4b 2020
or im i missing something?


Congratulations. You deserve a board position.


How does one apply or get elected to a board?
Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

doubletap
#2091 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2021 4:06:00 PM
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littledove wrote:
just realized im among top 40 shareholders of housing finance, i have bought alot between 3.30 and 4.
Out of simple research i realized they have reduced their borrowing significantly from around 16billion 2017, around 13b 2018, around 6b 2019 and around 4b 2020
or im i missing something?


What do you see here or how did you analyse your investment in HFCK? I am a shareholder just cannot exit the loss is not yet booked but am in the red with this stock.
You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else - Albert Einstein
obiero
#2092 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:13:20 PM
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doubletap wrote:
littledove wrote:
just realized im among top 40 shareholders of housing finance, i have bought alot between 3.30 and 4.
Out of simple research i realized they have reduced their borrowing significantly from around 16billion 2017, around 13b 2018, around 6b 2019 and around 4b 2020
or im i missing something?


What do you see here or how did you analyse your investment in HFCK? I am a shareholder just cannot exit the loss is not yet booked but am in the red with this stock.

This is a mortgage company, with asset backed collateral for over 80% of its lending. It will make a comeback

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ali Baba
#2093 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2021 1:01:42 PM
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Oh, that's awesome. I thought you were a top shareholder of KQ only. When I grow up, I want to be like you.
obiero
#2094 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2021 8:29:53 PM
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Ali Baba wrote:
Oh, that's awesome. I thought you were a top shareholder of KQ only. When I grow up, I want to be like you.

Asante. Though as most here already know, my stocks constitute a maximum of 10% of my overal investment portfolio at any given time. Looking to set it to 5% max, with 95% in real estate

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#2095 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2021 8:31:28 PM
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Ali Baba wrote:
Oh, that's awesome. I thought you were a top shareholder of KQ only. When I grow up, I want to be like you.

Asante. Though as most here already know, my stocks constitute a maximum of 10% of my overal investment portfolio at any given time. Looking to set it to 5% max, with 95% in real estate

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#2096 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2021 10:32:15 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ali Baba wrote:
Oh, that's awesome. I thought you were a top shareholder of KQ only. When I grow up, I want to be like you.

Asante. Though as most here already know, my stocks constitute a maximum of 10% of my overal investment portfolio at any given time. Looking to set it to 5% max, with 95% in real estate


Venture also in treasury bonds.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#2097 Posted : Saturday, July 17, 2021 4:59:58 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ali Baba wrote:
Oh, that's awesome. I thought you were a top shareholder of KQ only. When I grow up, I want to be like you.

Asante. Though as most here already know, my stocks constitute a maximum of 10% of my overal investment portfolio at any given time. Looking to set it to 5% max, with 95% in real estate


@Obiero = @Littledove 🤔🤔🤔
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#2098 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:24:38 PM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ali Baba wrote:
Oh, that's awesome. I thought you were a top shareholder of KQ only. When I grow up, I want to be like you.

Asante. Though as most here already know, my stocks constitute a maximum of 10% of my overal investment portfolio at any given time. Looking to set it to 5% max, with 95% in real estate


@Obiero = @Littledove 🤔🤔🤔

There’s only one @Obiero

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#2099 Posted : Friday, August 20, 2021 7:01:43 PM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ali Baba wrote:
Oh, that's awesome. I thought you were a top shareholder of KQ only. When I grow up, I want to be like you.

Asante. Though as most here already know, my stocks constitute a maximum of 10% of my overal investment portfolio at any given time. Looking to set it to 5% max, with 95% in real estate


@Obiero = @Littledove 🤔🤔🤔

There’s only one @Obiero

The exchange bar is talking on a big brown bank https://www.businessdail...ke-to-a-big-bank-3330780

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#2100 Posted : Friday, August 20, 2021 7:19:07 PM
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obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=Ali Baba]Oh, that's awesome. I thought you were a top shareholder of KQ only. When I grow up, I want to be like you.

Asante. Though as most here already know, my stocks constitute a maximum of 10% of my overal investment portfolio at any given time. Looking to set it to 5% max, with 95% in real estate


@Obiero = @Littledove 🤔🤔🤔

There’s only one @Obiero

The exchange bar is talking on a big brown bank https://www.businessdail...e-to-a-big-bank-3330780[/quote]

Big brown bank is Equity
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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