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Impunity
#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:09:31 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
What is the history of the word harambee? I think we took it from the coolie railroad workers, so really, who owns that?


@Kularaha
Harambee is so Kenyan.The coolies were working in Kenyan at that time and they became Kenyanised.We have almost everything in Kenya named Harambee including Harambee stars, Harambee house, harambee avenue,on our coins,on our court of arms...just everwhere including ndani ya bunge.

@Njunge I didnt know Nyamchom was gone.
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I cant guess the next in line; may be the word "twaomba serikali iingilie"
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:31:34 PM
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@ Kularaha, I think you are right about that, Harambee is not originally Kiswahili
mukiha
#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:12:24 PM
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Hold on a minute!

Isn't this a good thing?

Have you ever heard the Brits complain that too many countries are using their language as a national language?

Haven't "we" been trying to make Kiswahili an African Language?

If you ask me; this is a good thing.

When the South Africans make these words popular around the globe, some one will one day ask, "from which language is 'Nyama Choma'?" And the answer will be Kiswahili, of course...
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TAZ
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23:15 PM
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What are we complaining about really....the use of swahili words by other countries??? How about registering "madondo" and "mutura" while we are at it.
Impunity
#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:36:26 PM
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TAZ wrote:
What are we complaining about really....the use of swahili words by other countries??? How about registering "madondo" and "mutura" while we are at it.


At this rate we should just register almost every thing.

Names like Tumbukiza,mboiro,kashumbari,kienyeji,kichwa...
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:37:16 PM
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' kumi' is universal...i guess used like in many african countries to mean ten
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:44:21 PM
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Kiswahili remains one of the biggest potential unifier for the african continent...While other countries are adopting/poaching it someone once (last year?) tried to have it removed from the curriculum!
mukiha
#18 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:02:46 PM
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winston wrote:
Kiswahili remains one of the biggest potential unifier for the african continent...While other countries are adopting/poaching it someone once (last year?) tried to have it removed from the curriculum!

No! You did not understand that issue. Nobody tried to remove it!

The issue was: is it fair to require that pupils who take Kenyan Sign Language as a subject to also take Kiswahili? The ministry thought that it was not fair - after all, those who can't speak with a voiced language can't speak Kiswahili [obviously!!!]

The mass media, in characteristic fashion, reported that the KNEC wants to remove Kiswahili from the curriculum... and sold very many newspapers as a result!!!!
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:28:20 PM
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>> apparently har means worship and ambee was a god.
http://en.m.wikipedia.or...ambee?wasRedirected=true
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MaichBlack
#20 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:44:34 PM
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mukiha wrote:
Hold on a minute!

Isn't this a good thing?

Have you ever heard the Brits complain that too many countries are using their language as a national language?

Haven't "we" been trying to make Kiswahili an African Language?

If you ask me; this is a good thing.

When the South Africans make these words popular around the globe, some one will one day ask, "from which language is 'Nyama Choma'?" And the answer will be Kiswahili, of course...

@Mukiha - The issue is not the language, it's the phrases. More like trade marks. Sometime ago, when someone [in Europe or some other place] said "I'm going on a safari" he/she meant to Kenya - of course. Now that's very powerful when it comes to marketing!
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