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Supersport stole Harambee
Impunity
#1 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 1:56:02 PM
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I have been watching with keen interest and abated breath during the on going worlcup in SA;whenever the Supersport match analysts and presenters come on stage there is always behind the big screes very huge logo of the word "Harambee, coming together"

Ladies and gentlemen, whats not cooking?
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
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mukiha
#2 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 2:16:03 PM
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http://images.supersport....za/harambee_nav_bg.jpg

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Impunity
#3 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 3:34:19 PM
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mukiha wrote:
http://images.supersport.co.za/harambee_nav_bg.jpg



@Mr.Kituyi are these guyz pulling a ciondo on us againn?
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Njung'e
#4 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 3:38:54 PM
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@Impunity,
It was pulled long time ago and it's not the only Kenyan related Swahili name/word.
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Impunity
#5 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 3:49:12 PM
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Njunge wrote:
@Impunity,
It was pulled long time ago and it's not the only Kenyan related Swahili name/word.


@Njunge
What are the other swa words which have already been pulled on hapless we??
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#6 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 4:23:28 PM
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Hakuna matata.....Yes.SA has a chain of lodges known as Hakuna Matata lodges.Amongst them is the popular HM homestay and HM Lodge.......Then there is nyama choma.
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2012
#7 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 4:47:40 PM
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We should not complain. We created it, did nothing about it and now we are crying foul? Look at Makmende, who ever thought our superhero would die so soon?

Did you know South Africans also took the word 'Safari' for game tourism? Shindeni hapo tu.

BBI will solve it
:)
Impunity
#8 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 5:01:04 PM
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Njunge wrote:
Hakuna matata.....Yes.SA has a chain of lodges known as Hakuna Matata lodges.Amongst them is the popular HM homestay and HM Lodge.......Then there is nyama choma.


@Njunge,
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Hiyo ya nyama choma I doubt, nyama choma is so Kenyan that I dont think it can survive anywhere on Earth.
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#9 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 5:57:06 PM
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@Impunity,
Why are you laughing?......It was taken too by Lesedi african lodge and cultural centre,Jo'burg.
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KulaRaha
#10 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:03:32 AM
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What is the history of the word harambee? I think we took it from the coolie railroad workers, so really, who owns that?
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Impunity
#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:09:31 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
What is the history of the word harambee? I think we took it from the coolie railroad workers, so really, who owns that?


@Kularaha
Harambee is so Kenyan.The coolies were working in Kenyan at that time and they became Kenyanised.We have almost everything in Kenya named Harambee including Harambee stars, Harambee house, harambee avenue,on our coins,on our court of arms...just everwhere including ndani ya bunge.

@Njunge I didnt know Nyamchom was gone.
Sad Sad Sad Sad

I cant guess the next in line; may be the word "twaomba serikali iingilie"
smile smile smile smile
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nostoppingthis
#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:31:34 PM
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@ Kularaha, I think you are right about that, Harambee is not originally Kiswahili
mukiha
#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:12:24 PM
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Hold on a minute!

Isn't this a good thing?

Have you ever heard the Brits complain that too many countries are using their language as a national language?

Haven't "we" been trying to make Kiswahili an African Language?

If you ask me; this is a good thing.

When the South Africans make these words popular around the globe, some one will one day ask, "from which language is 'Nyama Choma'?" And the answer will be Kiswahili, of course...
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TAZ
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:23:15 PM
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What are we complaining about really....the use of swahili words by other countries??? How about registering "madondo" and "mutura" while we are at it.
Impunity
#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:36:26 PM
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TAZ wrote:
What are we complaining about really....the use of swahili words by other countries??? How about registering "madondo" and "mutura" while we are at it.


At this rate we should just register almost every thing.

Names like Tumbukiza,mboiro,kashumbari,kienyeji,kichwa...
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:37:16 PM
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' kumi' is universal...i guess used like in many african countries to mean ten
winston
#17 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:44:21 PM
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Kiswahili remains one of the biggest potential unifier for the african continent...While other countries are adopting/poaching it someone once (last year?) tried to have it removed from the curriculum!
mukiha
#18 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:02:46 PM
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winston wrote:
Kiswahili remains one of the biggest potential unifier for the african continent...While other countries are adopting/poaching it someone once (last year?) tried to have it removed from the curriculum!

No! You did not understand that issue. Nobody tried to remove it!

The issue was: is it fair to require that pupils who take Kenyan Sign Language as a subject to also take Kiswahili? The ministry thought that it was not fair - after all, those who can't speak with a voiced language can't speak Kiswahili [obviously!!!]

The mass media, in characteristic fashion, reported that the KNEC wants to remove Kiswahili from the curriculum... and sold very many newspapers as a result!!!!
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kenmac
#19 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:28:20 PM
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>> apparently har means worship and ambee was a god.
http://en.m.wikipedia.or...ambee?wasRedirected=true
......Ecclesiastes
MaichBlack
#20 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:44:34 PM
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mukiha wrote:
Hold on a minute!

Isn't this a good thing?

Have you ever heard the Brits complain that too many countries are using their language as a national language?

Haven't "we" been trying to make Kiswahili an African Language?

If you ask me; this is a good thing.

When the South Africans make these words popular around the globe, some one will one day ask, "from which language is 'Nyama Choma'?" And the answer will be Kiswahili, of course...

@Mukiha - The issue is not the language, it's the phrases. More like trade marks. Sometime ago, when someone [in Europe or some other place] said "I'm going on a safari" he/she meant to Kenya - of course. Now that's very powerful when it comes to marketing!
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