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Robins
#1 Posted : Wednesday, February 03, 2021 4:15:03 PM
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Joined: 12/3/2018
Posts: 18
Location: Mars
I need advise from fellow wazuans. Been a faithful follower of the forum since 2011 and enjoy reading the forums and it seems most of you have their things figured out.
So a little background about me; graduated in 2016 with a degree considered useless by most HRs, I've had several jobs in sales / B dvpt / training and eCommerce which are not in any way related to my degree. Lost my last job in 2019 after Govt crushed the industry I was working in and haven't had another or raised capital to start my own thing.

Now I'm at a point where I'm in debt and can't even fend for my familia. Don't know what next and I consider myself smart having helped my previous employers grow by at least *20 times each within months. These were mostly startups or struggling firms that I think took the risk with me due to my low salary demand.

Been applying for jobs with no success and someone was blunt about my degree being of no interest to employers despite the skills and knowledge I've gained over the years. What do I do now that I'm turning 30? Do a Harambe and enroll for an MBA to improve prospects ? Continue hunting which hasn't yielded results?

Steer away from affectation at all costs, as if it were a rough and dangerous reef.
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quicksand
#2 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2021 11:16:14 AM
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Joined: 7/5/2010
Posts: 2,061
Location: Nairobi
Robins wrote:

I need advise from fellow wazuans. Been a faithful follower of the forum since 2011 and enjoy reading the forums and it seems most of you have their things figured out.
So a little background about me; graduated in 2016 with a degree considered useless by most HRs, I've had several jobs in sales / B dvpt / training and eCommerce which are not in any way related to my degree. Lost my last job in 2019 after Govt crushed the industry I was working in and haven't had another or raised capital to start my own thing.

Now I'm at a point where I'm in debt and can't even fend for my familia. Don't know what next and I consider myself smart having helped my previous employers grow by at least *20 times each within months. These were mostly startups or struggling firms that I think took the risk with me due to my low salary demand.

Been applying for jobs with no success and someone was blunt about my degree being of no interest to employers despite the skills and knowledge I've gained over the years. What do I do now that I'm turning 30? Do a Harambe and enroll for an MBA to improve prospects ? Continue hunting which hasn't yielded results?


The background you have provided is way too little...first tell us what degree you attained and what industry you were in and may be the citizens here can give you ideas on how to strike out.
No degree is useless. Do not let HR departments define you or other people tell you what your self-worth is. Your brain took you to university and the education you received there must have refined it some more.
All kinds of people are made redundant, all the time - engineers, doctors, pilots ...being unable to earn currently is a function of demand and the state of the economy in the small, localised ecosystem you inhabit
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poundfoolish
#3 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2021 11:23:15 AM
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Joined: 12/2/2009
Posts: 2,458
Location: Nairobi
Robins wrote:
I need advise from fellow wazuans. Been a faithful follower of the forum since 2011 and enjoy reading the forums and it seems most of you have their things figured out.
So a little background about me; graduated in 2016 with a degree considered useless by most HRs, I've had several jobs in sales / B dvpt / training and eCommerce which are not in any way related to my degree. Lost my last job in 2019 after Govt crushed the industry I was working in and haven't had another or raised capital to start my own thing.

Now I'm at a point where I'm in debt and can't even fend for my familia. Don't know what next and I consider myself smart having helped my previous employers grow by at least *20 times each within months. These were mostly startups or struggling firms that I think took the risk with me due to my low salary demand.

Been applying for jobs with no success and someone was blunt about my degree being of no interest to employers despite the skills and knowledge I've gained over the years. What do I do now that I'm turning 30? Do a Harambe and enroll for an MBA to improve prospects ? Continue hunting which hasn't yielded results?



Are you into sales?
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Robins
#4 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2021 11:38:15 AM
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Joined: 12/3/2018
Posts: 18
Location: Mars
quicksand wrote:
Robins wrote:

I need advise from fellow wazuans. Been a faithful follower of the forum since 2011 and enjoy reading the forums and it seems most of you have their things figured out.
So a little background about me; graduated in 2016 with a degree considered useless by most HRs, I've had several jobs in sales / B dvpt / training and eCommerce which are not in any way related to my degree. Lost my last job in 2019 after Govt crushed the industry I was working in and haven't had another or raised capital to start my own thing.

Now I'm at a point where I'm in debt and can't even fend for my familia. Don't know what next and I consider myself smart having helped my previous employers grow by at least *20 times each within months. These were mostly startups or struggling firms that I think took the risk with me due to my low salary demand.

Been applying for jobs with no success and someone was blunt about my degree being of no interest to employers despite the skills and knowledge I've gained over the years. What do I do now that I'm turning 30? Do a Harambe and enroll for an MBA to improve prospects ? Continue hunting which hasn't yielded results?


The background you have provided is way too little...first tell us what degree you attained and what industry you were in and may be the citizens here can give you ideas on how to strike out.
No degree is useless. Do not let HR departments define you or other people tell you what your self-worth is. Your brain took you to university and the education you received there must have refined it some more.
All kinds of people are made redundant, all the time - engineers, doctors, pilots ...being unable to earn currently is a function of demand and the state of the economy in the small, localised ecosystem you inhabit


International Relations and Diplomacy. I agree it's not useless as people adapt and gain skills. My favorite Prof told us education is not for specific roles but to open up your mind. I've worked with Saf dealers, an e-Commerce startup and the gambling industry. But the younger the HR and interview panels get, they seem to miss the point
Steer away from affectation at all costs, as if it were a rough and dangerous reef.
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Robins
#5 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2021 11:42:54 AM
Rank: New-farer

Joined: 12/3/2018
Posts: 18
Location: Mars
poundfoolish wrote:
Robins wrote:
I need advise from fellow wazuans. Been a faithful follower of the forum since 2011 and enjoy reading the forums and it seems most of you have their things figured out.
So a little background about me; graduated in 2016 with a degree considered useless by most HRs, I've had several jobs in sales / B dvpt / training and eCommerce which are not in any way related to my degree. Lost my last job in 2019 after Govt crushed the industry I was working in and haven't had another or raised capital to start my own thing.

Now I'm at a point where I'm in debt and can't even fend for my familia. Don't know what next and I consider myself smart having helped my previous employers grow by at least *20 times each within months. These were mostly startups or struggling firms that I think took the risk with me due to my low salary demand.

Been applying for jobs with no success and someone was blunt about my degree being of no interest to employers despite the skills and knowledge I've gained over the years. What do I do now that I'm turning 30? Do a Harambe and enroll for an MBA to improve prospects ? Continue hunting which hasn't yielded results?



Are you into sales?

Yes I am, very good at it too.
Steer away from affectation at all costs, as if it were a rough and dangerous reef.
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Thiong'o
#6 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2021 12:05:07 PM
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Joined: 10/14/2011
Posts: 661
Robins wrote:
quicksand wrote:
Robins wrote:

I need advise from fellow wazuans. Been a faithful follower of the forum since 2011 and enjoy reading the forums and it seems most of you have their things figured out.
So a little background about me; graduated in 2016 with a degree considered useless by most HRs, I've had several jobs in sales / B dvpt / training and eCommerce which are not in any way related to my degree. Lost my last job in 2019 after Govt crushed the industry I was working in and haven't had another or raised capital to start my own thing.

Now I'm at a point where I'm in debt and can't even fend for my familia. Don't know what next and I consider myself smart having helped my previous employers grow by at least *20 times each within months. These were mostly startups or struggling firms that I think took the risk with me due to my low salary demand.

Been applying for jobs with no success and someone was blunt about my degree being of no interest to employers despite the skills and knowledge I've gained over the years. What do I do now that I'm turning 30? Do a Harambe and enroll for an MBA to improve prospects ? Continue hunting which hasn't yielded results?


The background you have provided is way too little...first tell us what degree you attained and what industry you were in and may be the citizens here can give you ideas on how to strike out.
No degree is useless. Do not let HR departments define you or other people tell you what your self-worth is. Your brain took you to university and the education you received there must have refined it some more.
All kinds of people are made redundant, all the time - engineers, doctors, pilots ...being unable to earn currently is a function of demand and the state of the economy in the small, localised ecosystem you inhabit


International Relations and Diplomacy. I agree it's not useless as people adapt and gain skills. My favorite Prof told us education is not for specific roles but to open up your mind. I've worked with Saf dealers, an e-Commerce startup and the gambling industry. But the younger the HR and interview panels get, they seem to miss the point


Educations is means to an end not an end in itself @Robins, no degree is useless but attitude is everything.

You don’t hire for skills, you hire for attitude. You can always teach skills. - Simon Sinek
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amorphous
#7 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2021 12:52:19 PM
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Joined: 5/15/2019
Posts: 687
Location: planet earth
[quote=Robins]I need advise from fellow wazuans. Been a faithful follower of the forum since 2011 and enjoy reading the forums and it seems most of you have their things figured out.
So a little background about me; graduated in 2016 with a degree considered useless by most HRs, I've had several jobs in sales / B dvpt / training and eCommerce which are not in any way related to my degree. Lost my last job in 2019 after Govt crushed the industry I was working in and haven't had another or raised capital to start my own thing.

Now I'm at a point where I'm in debt and can't even fend for my familia. Don't know what next and I consider myself smart having helped my previous employers grow by at least *20 times each within months. These were mostly startups or struggling firms that I think took the risk with me due to my low salary demand.

Been applying for jobs with no success and someone was blunt about my degree being of no interest to employers despite the skills and knowledge I've gained over the years. What do I do now that I'm turning 30? Do a Harambe and enroll for an MBA to improve prospects ? Continue hunting which hasn't yielded results?

[/quote:]

Pole my broda.
The day one starts to see themselves as a jobcreator rather than a job seeker is the day things will start to change for the better for the person. This is the best time to do so as you have nothing to lose. Wageslavery is a curse. Goodluck
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
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Robins
#8 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2021 7:17:34 PM
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Joined: 12/3/2018
Posts: 18
Location: Mars
amorphous wrote:
[quote=Robins]I need advise from fellow wazuans. Been a faithful follower of the forum since 2011 and enjoy reading the forums and it seems most of you have their things figured out.
So a little background about me; graduated in 2016 with a degree considered useless by most HRs, I've had several jobs in sales / B dvpt / training and eCommerce which are not in any way related to my degree. Lost my last job in 2019 after Govt crushed the industry I was working in and haven't had another or raised capital to start my own thing.

Now I'm at a point where I'm in debt and can't even fend for my familia. Don't know what next and I consider myself smart having helped my previous employers grow by at least *20 times each within months. These were mostly startups or struggling firms that I think took the risk with me due to my low salary demand.

Been applying for jobs with no success and someone was blunt about my degree being of no interest to employers despite the skills and knowledge I've gained over the years. What do I do now that I'm turning 30? Do a Harambe and enroll for an MBA to improve prospects ? Continue hunting which hasn't yielded results?

[/quote:]

Pole my broda.
The day one starts to see themselves as a jobcreator rather than a job seeker is the day things will start to change for the better for the person. This is the best time to do so as you have nothing to lose. Wageslavery is a curse. Goodluck


I agree on the wage slavery πŸ‘ For now I need a job after covid and trumpistan ruined a gig that was almost going well. Maybe in a year or two I'll be an entrepreneur, for now an intraprenuer is all I can hope for.
πŸ‘
Steer away from affectation at all costs, as if it were a rough and dangerous reef.
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amorphous
#9 Posted : Saturday, February 06, 2021 8:20:26 AM
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Joined: 5/15/2019
Posts: 687
Location: planet earth
Robins wrote:


I agree on the wage slavery πŸ‘ For now I need a job after covid and trumpistan ruined a gig that was almost going well. Maybe in a year or two I'll be an entrepreneur, for now an intraprenuer is all I can hope for.
πŸ‘


Why a year or two and not now is the billion shilling question if you agree with me on wage slavery?
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
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madollar
#10 Posted : Sunday, February 07, 2021 7:59:32 PM
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Joined: 11/17/2009
Posts: 2,040
Location: GA
How is your support system i.e your spouse and family in such lean times they can offer support financially and emotionally to navigate the tough times.

In most of this situations of between a hard place and a rock is to just continue trying
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