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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Ericsson wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 9.2 Actual 8.9 EQTY 7.8 Actual 7.0 COOP 5.2 Actual 5.1 I&M 3.6 NCBA 3.3 Actual 2.4 SCBK 3.1 ABSA 3.0 Actual 3.43* DTB 2.8 Actual 2.9 STANB 1.9 Actual 2.1 HFCK -0.034 Equity Group Q1 2020 @ ksh.7bn ABSA PBT before exceptional items ksh.3.43bn After exceptional items ksh.2.87bn Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/30/2010 Posts: 1,635
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 9.2 Actual 8.9 EQTY 7.8 Actual 7.0 COOP 5.2 Actual 5.1 I&M 3.6 NCBA 3.3 Actual 2.4 SCBK 3.1 ABSA 3.0 Actual 3.2 DTB 2.8 Actual 2.9 STANB 1.9 Actual 2.1 HFCK -0.034 Actual 0.007 HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Ericsson wrote:Ericsson wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 9.2 Actual 8.9 EQTY 7.8 Actual 7.0 COOP 5.2 Actual 5.1 I&M 3.6 Actual 2.4 NCBA 3.3 Actual 2.4 SCBK 3.1 ABSA 3.0 Actual 3.43* DTB 2.8 Actual 2.9 STANB 1.9 Actual 2.1 HFCK -0.034 Actual 0.007
Equity Group Q1 2020 @ ksh.7bn ABSA PBT before exceptional items ksh.3.43bn After exceptional items ksh.2.87bn Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ericsson wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 9.2 Actual 8.9 EQTY 7.8 Actual 7.0 COOP 5.2 Actual 5.1 I&M 3.6 Actual 2.4 NCBA 3.3 Actual 2.4 SCBK 3.1 ABSA 3.0 Actual 3.43* DTB 2.8 Actual 2.9 STANB 1.9 Actual 2.1 HFCK -0.034 Actual 0.007
Equity Group Q1 2020 @ ksh.7bn ABSA PBT before exceptional items ksh.3.43bn After exceptional items ksh.2.87bn Remain with the top 3. Thank me later HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Ericsson wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ericsson wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 9.2 Actual 8.9 EQTY 7.8 Actual 7.0 COOP 5.2 Actual 5.1 I&M 3.6 Actual 2.4 NCBA 3.3 Actual 2.4 SCBK 3.1 Actual 2.9 ABSA 3.0 Actual 3.43* DTB 2.8 Actual 2.9 STANB 1.9 Actual 2.1 HFCK -0.034 Actual 0.007
Equity Group Q1 2020 @ ksh.7bn ABSA PBT before exceptional items ksh.3.43bn After exceptional items ksh.2.87bn Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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obiero wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q1 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 9.2 Actual 8.9 EQTY 7.8 Actual 7.0 COOP 5.2 Actual 5.1 I&M 3.6 NCBA 3.3 Actual 2.4 SCBK 3.1 ABSA 3.0 Actual 3.2 DTB 2.8 Actual 2.9 STANB 1.9 Actual 2.1 HFCK -0.034 Actual 0.007 Q1 numbers don't mean much at this point. Wide divergence on provisions even among tier I banks. I guess IFRS provisions on expected losses have largely been ignored. Cbk's window on restructuring loans offers a stay of execution for now...when does it expire and what is the likelihood of an extension? The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 18.2 EQTY 14 COOP 10.2 I&M 6.9 ABSA 6.2 SCBK 6.1 DTB 5.8 NCBA 4.8 STANB 4.2 HFCK 0.042 HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 18.2 EQTY 14 COOP 10.2 I&M 6.9 ABSA 6.2 SCBK 6.1 DTB 5.8 NCBA 4.8 STANB 4.2 HFCK 0.042 @Obiero is usually on the ball so Q2 seems very similar to Q1 i.e. Q1 x 2 = Q2 Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 18.2 EQTY 14 COOP 10.2 I&M 6.9 ABSA 6.2 SCBK 6.1 DTB 5.8 NCBA 4.8 STANB 4.2 HFCK 0.042 @Obiero is usually on the ball so Q2 seems very similar to Q1 i.e. Q1 x 2 = Q2 This is the quarter with full effect of COVID-19. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 18.2 EQTY 14 COOP 10.2 I&M 6.9 ABSA 6.2 SCBK 6.1 DTB 5.8 NCBA 4.8 STANB 4.2 HFCK 0.042 @Obiero is usually on the ball so Q2 seems very similar to Q1 i.e. Q1 x 2 = Q2 This is the quarter with full effect of COVID-19. Essential service sector, never closed even a single day.. Only reduced 1 working hour. Covid19 restructuring on corporate book total KES 712B means almost nil NPL impact.. Consumer loan book only slightly hit due to layoffs by some private firms, while GoK employees form bulk of bank check off facilities HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 18.2 EQTY 14 COOP 10.2 I&M 6.9 ABSA 6.2 SCBK 6.1 DTB 5.8 NCBA 4.8 STANB 4.2 HFCK 0.042 @Obiero is usually on the ball so Q2 seems very similar to Q1 i.e. Q1 x 2 = Q2 This is the quarter with full effect of COVID-19. Essential service sector, never closed even a single day.. Only reduced 1 working hour. Covid19 restructuring on corporate book total KES 712B means almost nil NPL impact.. Consumer loan book only slightly hit due to layoffs by some private firms, while GoK employees form bulk of bank check off facilities 3Q and 4Q will be better indicators. Real losses (vs ECL) will start crystalizing over the next 12 months. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 18.2 EQTY 14 COOP 10.2 I&M 6.9 ABSA 6.2 SCBK 6.1 DTB 5.8 NCBA 4.8 STANB 4.2 HFCK 0.042 @Obiero is usually on the ball so Q2 seems very similar to Q1 i.e. Q1 x 2 = Q2 This is the quarter with full effect of COVID-19. Essential service sector, never closed even a single day.. Only reduced 1 working hour. Covid19 restructuring on corporate book total KES 712B means almost nil NPL impact.. Consumer loan book only slightly hit due to layoffs by some private firms, while GoK employees form bulk of bank check off facilities 3Q and 4Q will be better indicators. Real losses (vs ECL) will start crystalizing over the next 12 months. Yes. Q3 will be the truth post 90 days unpaid arrears for consumer book HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Kenya Airways HY Total Income 44.1B HY Total Operating Costs 54.5B HY Loss before Income Tax [7.975b] HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Kenya Airways HY Total Income 44.1B HY Total Operating Costs 54.5B HY Loss before Income Tax [7.975b] Double the figure for HY Loss before Income Tax Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Kenya Airways HY Total Income 44.1B HY Total Operating Costs 54.5B HY Loss before Income Tax [7.975b] Double the figure for HY Loss before Income Tax KQ needs to be taken outside and shot. Twice. In the Head. And then cut up in 4 quarters. Which should be shredded. And burnt. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 18.2 EQTY 14 COOP 10.2 I&M 6.9 ABSA 6.2 SCBK 6.1 DTB 5.8 NCBA 4.8 STANB 4.2 HFCK 0.042 @Obiero is usually on the ball so Q2 seems very similar to Q1 i.e. Q1 x 2 = Q2 This is the quarter with full effect of COVID-19. Essential service sector, never closed even a single day.. Only reduced 1 working hour. Covid19 restructuring on corporate book total KES 712B means almost nil NPL impact.. Consumer loan book only slightly hit due to layoffs by some private firms, while GoK employees form bulk of bank check off facilities 3Q and 4Q will be better indicators. Real losses (vs ECL) will start crystalizing over the next 12 months. Yes. Q3 will be the truth post 90 days unpaid arrears for consumer book Plus those paying interim dividends will retain the norm. KCB may hike to 1.25 Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/14/2011 Posts: 834 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 18.2 EQTY 14 COOP 10.2 I&M 6.9 ABSA 6.2 SCBK 6.1 DTB 5.8 NCBA 4.8 STANB 4.2 HFCK 0.042 @Obiero is usually on the ball so Q2 seems very similar to Q1 i.e. Q1 x 2 = Q2 This is the quarter with full effect of COVID-19. Essential service sector, never closed even a single day.. Only reduced 1 working hour. Covid19 restructuring on corporate book total KES 712B means almost nil NPL impact.. Consumer loan book only slightly hit due to layoffs by some private firms, while GoK employees form bulk of bank check off facilities 3Q and 4Q will be better indicators. Real losses (vs ECL) will start crystalizing over the next 12 months. Yes. Q3 will be the truth post 90 days unpaid arrears for consumer book Plus those paying interim dividends will retain the norm. KCB may hike to 1.25 Sounds too good to be true. Higher dividends in view of coming NPLs
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 18.2 EQTY 14 COOP 10.2 I&M 6.9 ABSA 6.2 SCBK 6.1 DTB 5.8 NCBA 4.8 STANB 4.2 HFCK 0.042 @Obiero is usually on the ball so Q2 seems very similar to Q1 i.e. Q1 x 2 = Q2 This is the quarter with full effect of COVID-19. Essential service sector, never closed even a single day.. Only reduced 1 working hour. Covid19 restructuring on corporate book total KES 712B means almost nil NPL impact.. Consumer loan book only slightly hit due to layoffs by some private firms, while GoK employees form bulk of bank check off facilities 3Q and 4Q will be better indicators. Real losses (vs ECL) will start crystalizing over the next 12 months. Yes. Q3 will be the truth post 90 days unpaid arrears for consumer book Plus those paying interim dividends will retain the norm. KCB may hike to 1.25 If these estimates are as accurate as they usually are, we are looking at KCB/EQTY back to 40-45 levels
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Horton wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2020, PBT figures in KES B: KCB 18.2 EQTY 14 COOP 10.2 I&M 6.9 ABSA 6.2 SCBK 6.1 DTB 5.8 NCBA 4.8 STANB 4.2 HFCK 0.042 @Obiero is usually on the ball so Q2 seems very similar to Q1 i.e. Q1 x 2 = Q2 This is the quarter with full effect of COVID-19. Essential service sector, never closed even a single day.. Only reduced 1 working hour. Covid19 restructuring on corporate book total KES 712B means almost nil NPL impact.. Consumer loan book only slightly hit due to layoffs by some private firms, while GoK employees form bulk of bank check off facilities 3Q and 4Q will be better indicators. Real losses (vs ECL) will start crystalizing over the next 12 months. Yes. Q3 will be the truth post 90 days unpaid arrears for consumer book Plus those paying interim dividends will retain the norm. KCB may hike to 1.25 If these estimates are as accurate as they usually are, we are looking at KCB/EQTY back to 40-45 levels Based on falling prices in other sectors, market will be unmoved. Expect lower prices. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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