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alma1 wrote:Lolest! wrote:#RutoTheWifeBeater no1 pale twirra
Feels like the last 3 months to the polls(minus rallies) I don't know the age of whoever approves these "mbroggers" on twirra. Someone somewhere with money is paying these kids. Shameful really. But when you think about it, most of these "mbroggers" are from the school of Itumbi and Alai. True examples of ujinga mambo leo. Now their children are on the other side. I changed my twirra settings to another country just so that I can have a ujinga free day. If things continue like this, we will never know when a serious issue about DP arises. Everything will be treated as b.s. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/10/2010 Posts: 281 Location: Nairobi
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I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style.
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madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. @Madhaquer,not all things we value are tangible.Wanjohi(you can add Wamasharti) has given us relative peace to go about our daily hassles.That is a very important aspect for any economy. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,588
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madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Surprisingly I am in admiration nowadays of the improved skills that kamwana is displaying in steering the ship and sailing forward. This year especially he has been right on steering wheel just like that time he was finance minister around 2009. If he continues at the current pace he will have quite a say on who succeeds him.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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wukan wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Surprisingly I am in admiration nowadays of the improved skills that kamwana is displaying in steering the ship and sailing forward. This year especially he has been right on steering wheel just like that time he was finance minister around 2009. If he continues at the current pace he will have quite a say on who succeeds him. I am not like Itumbi who would have slapped you if you said kamwana was not good enough. I guess I understand how the devil felt after being thrown out of heaven. I take it from the perspective of a business owner. For those who also have a job, you know that loyalty to the cause is paramount for your KPI's. Even Ruto expects his foot soldiers to perform diligently otherwise they will not be funded. I heard him explain yesterday how he only has 2 years to go. So he only has one agenda, to perform. I agree with him that if anyone has another agenda other than his, then they should leave silently. In your own company, you are fired for insubordination bila huruma. What the Ruto camp wants is for Uhuru to stay silent. I doubt any CEO can do that. But you are free to show me one. Ruto is now free to campaign as he wishes. If Moses Kuria wants to tell everyone Uhuru is a drunkard, they are now free to do so. But they should do so outside. The only people who don't see this are the tangatanga group who think Uhuru's job is to tell us Raila is evil. Let us see how good they are now that they are the leaders of opposition. Just like Raila did, I'd like them to tell us about the corruption going on in Uhunye's gov't. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua?
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mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? Exactly! He countered every argument against the regime. Did we miss the 'Damascus' moment? Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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kaka2za wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? Exactly! He countered every argument against the regime. Did we miss the 'Damascus' moment? He will say only a fool doesn't change his mind, fake difence!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? FACT Uhuru has been useless in his 2nd term. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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murchr wrote:FACT Uhuru has been useless in his 2nd term. Kanyagia Hapo DJ Weka Solotape.
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murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? FACT Uhuru has been useless in his 2nd term. no difference with the first term. just that now the mistakes of the first term are catching up. the very same mistakes you were singing about and praising here. be honest - the only reason you are now seeing the uselessness is because your man is no longer part of the system.
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Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? Exactly! He countered every argument against the regime. Did we miss the 'Damascus' moment? He will say only a fool doesn't change his mind, fake difence!!! Nyinyi watu mnadhani kutolewa kwa jukwaa kaa mwizi ni mchezo.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:madhaquer wrote:I think the Jubilee camp have their focus in the wrong place. The dissatisfaction on the ground has nothing to do with Ruto. It is simply because Kamwana has nothing to show for this second term in office.
I think their focus should be on helping Wanjohi deliver something tangible with the little time remaining. Whether or not Ruto succeeds him is not his business. He should work and retire Kibaki style. Jubilee camp exists in your thinking. We do not know what Uhuru and Raila promised each other during the handshake remember no one else was involved but the 2. What has been coming out through the noise that is BBI is A PM post and regional govt plus positions for losers- Seems like Raila was to be a PM, and probably promised to Uhuru after retirement (Putin style). Then their cronies would share the other posts. This however was a pipe dream since it can only happen under a constitutional amendment. I believe in their own discussions, they did not think of the stipulations in place So now after realizing nothing will work in his favor, he's resulted to throwing tantrums am even beginning to doubt all those Ruto allegations (scandals) if they had anything on him they would have pulled a first one. Time has caught up with Uhuru, if only he focused on only 1 of his 4 agendas he would have been something, but his greed and lack of focus has been his undoing. He had it all, the majority in the 2 houses and a competent cabinet. But BBI shrouded it all and brought mistrust oh. so the bbi is the cause of the government not doing anything for the second term? in your list of peace and all good before the handshake you conveniently left out the issue of the deputy starting campaigns immediately the second term started. convenient too how you casually left out the first term. Yes what has your government done in its 2nd term? Campaigns/realignments began after the handshake no? The clock is still running. now it is my government? were you not the one defending this government all the way from 2013 here in wazua? FACT Uhuru has been useless in his 2nd term. no difference with the first term. just that now the mistakes of the first term are catching up. the very same mistakes you were singing about and praising here. be honest - the only reason you are now seeing the uselessness is because your man is no longer part of the system. When was he ever useful? Gatundu residents didn't even believe he could make a good MP in 1997! The question that time was what exactly had he done for himself and the country at that time? That question is still valid 22 years later. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Queen wrote:Nyinyi watu mnadhani kutolewa kwa jukwaa kaa mwizi ni mchezo. You should have been around during the Nyayo Error. Kibaki was removed VP to Health Minister. I will not talk about Dr. Josephat Karanja. He was "removed by a mere inspector of motor vehicles." Professor George Saitoti had to say "There Comes A Time". Even the Professor of Kenian Politics himself suffered a slap from a Rift Valley Commissioner of Police while he was VP. Doctor Ruto is not seeing anything new.
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