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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Brazil had it's first recorded case on 25 February 2020. When Kenya was announcing its first case of Covid-19 Brazil had 98 REPORTED cases. So it takes a while to get to a place where it knocks off 1,000+ people a day and that path is paved with people despising it. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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Seeing pictures on social media of Weta's brother's burial. Attendants in hazmat suits.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Shak wrote:Seeing pictures on social media of Weta's brother's burial. Attendants in hazmat suits. That is the modus operandi for COVID victims. In other news 66 today "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,634
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Let us not be too hard on Magufuli, he may turn out to be the most prescient among our leaders. Even without good testing, it seems clear that COVID-19 is evolving differently in Africa than in the West. For one the morbidity rate is quite low. Having a youthful population is finally paying dividends for us (although other factors like weather could be at play also). Testing, therefore should not be our priority. Our priority should be preventing sickness. This means placing most of our resources into protecting health workers and in testing, treating and isolating those older than 60 (they are not very many, thank God) and anyone suffering from underlying conditions like HIV, Diabetes etc. One day soon, we shall seek to encourage infection among the healthy, as one path to achieving herd immunity. We might as well start now. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Wakanyugi wrote:Let us not be too hard on Magufuli, he may turn out to be the most prescient among our leaders.  Even without good testing, it seems clear that COVID-19 is evolving differently in Africa than in the West. For one the morbidity rate is quite low. Having a youthful population is finally paying dividends for us (although other factors like weather could be at play also). Testing, therefore should not be our priority. Our priority should be preventing sickness. This means placing most of our resources into protecting health workers and in testing, treating and isolating those older than 60 (they are not very many, thank God) and anyone suffering from underlying conditions like HIV, Diabetes etc. One day soon, we shall seek to encourage infection among the healthy, as one path to achieving herd immunity. We might as well start now. exactly... Social Distancing, Wearing of Masks, Sanitizing Surfaces, Avoiding Crowds, and staying away from the vulnerable people. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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masukuma wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Let us not be too hard on Magufuli, he may turn out to be the most prescient among our leaders. Even without good testing, it seems clear that COVID-19 is evolving differently in Africa than in the West. For one the morbidity rate is quite low. Having a youthful population is finally paying dividends for us (although other factors like weather could be at play also). Testing, therefore should not be our priority. Our priority should be preventing sickness. This means placing most of our resources into protecting health workers and in testing, treating and isolating those older than 60 (they are not very many, thank God) and anyone suffering from underlying conditions like HIV, Diabetes etc. One day soon, we shall seek to encourage infection among the healthy, as one path to achieving herd immunity. We might as well start now. exactly... Social Distancing, Wearing of Masks, Sanitizing Surfaces, Avoiding Crowds, and staying away from the vulnerable people. You can strike out people living with HIV as being part of the vulnerable people. So long as they have been on ARV studies have shown that they are capable of beating the virus. The problem could be on people with HIV and don't know about it. The most vulnerable targets are stressed people which includes hypertensive and diabetic persons. I can't post a picture of a meme I saw today. it was about how we our government is dealing with this thing. It depicts Kenya as a student copying from another student in the exam room. Magufuli with his PhD doesn't need to copy anyone. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Let us not be too hard on Magufuli, he may turn out to be the most prescient among our leaders. Even without good testing, it seems clear that COVID-19 is evolving differently in Africa than in the West. For one the morbidity rate is quite low. Having a youthful population is finally paying dividends for us (although other factors like weather could be at play also). Testing, therefore should not be our priority. Our priority should be preventing sickness. This means placing most of our resources into protecting health workers and in testing, treating and isolating those older than 60 (they are not very many, thank God) and anyone suffering from underlying conditions like HIV, Diabetes etc. One day soon, we shall seek to encourage infection among the healthy, as one path to achieving herd immunity. We might as well start now. exactly... Social Distancing, Wearing of Masks, Sanitizing Surfaces, Avoiding Crowds, and staying away from the vulnerable people. You can strike out people living with HIV as being part of the vulnerable people. So long as they have been on ARV studies have shown that they are capable of beating the virus. The problem could be on people with HIV and don't know about it. The most vulnerable targets are stressed people which includes hypertensive and diabetic persons. At this point I would urge everyone stack the odds in their favor - eat well, get a bit of sun, exercise, mask, avoid crowds. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Shak wrote:Seeing pictures on social media of Weta's brother's burial. Attendants in hazmat suits. That is the modus operandi for COVID victims. In other news 66 today yeap! Mombasa has 30 new cases half of them from Likoni Nairobi has 26 new cases 15 of them from Kibra Ikiingina hizo vitongoji kutoka ni ngumu! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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Wakanyugi wrote:Let us not be too hard on Magufuli, he may turn out to be the most prescient among our leaders.
Even without good testing, it seems clear that COVID-19 is evolving differently in Africa than in the West. For one the morbidity rate is quite low. Having a youthful population is finally paying dividends for us (although other factors like weather could be at play also).
Testing, therefore should not be our priority. Our priority should be preventing sickness. This means placing most of our resources into protecting health workers and in testing, treating and isolating those older than 60 (they are not very many, thank God) and anyone suffering from underlying conditions like HIV, Diabetes etc.
One day soon, we shall seek to encourage infection among the healthy, as one path to achieving herd immunity. We might as well start now.
Maghufuli is hiding at his home in Chato (si mjinga). Tzedians are doing their part with hygiene, masks and distancing. That said, East Africa might be forming a nice regional experimental unit. TZ with minimal action, Kenya with it's half-assed donor driven actions based on finger wagging/scolding of citizens and Rwanda/Uganda excelling in comprehensive control.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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Dahatre wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Let us not be too hard on Magufuli, he may turn out to be the most prescient among our leaders.
Even without good testing, it seems clear that COVID-19 is evolving differently in Africa than in the West. For one the morbidity rate is quite low. Having a youthful population is finally paying dividends for us (although other factors like weather could be at play also).
Testing, therefore should not be our priority. Our priority should be preventing sickness. This means placing most of our resources into protecting health workers and in testing, treating and isolating those older than 60 (they are not very many, thank God) and anyone suffering from underlying conditions like HIV, Diabetes etc.
One day soon, we shall seek to encourage infection among the healthy, as one path to achieving herd immunity. We might as well start now.
Maghufuli is hiding at his home in Chato (si mjinga). Tzedians are doing their part with hygiene, masks and distancing. That said, East Africa might be forming a nice regional experimental unit. TZ with minimal action, Kenya with it's half-assed donor driven actions based on finger wagging/scolding of citizens and Rwanda/Uganda excelling in comprehensive control. It's everwhere in YouTube. Magufuli public meetings today. Why should he hide? Boris caught covid then healed sembuse yeye? Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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Canadian scientists now say that BANGI reduces coronavirus risk by 70%. https://www.independent....ada-study-a9521166.html
https://www.timesnownews...fight-coronavirus/594455Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Shak wrote:Seeing pictures on social media of Weta's brother's burial. Attendants in hazmat suits. That is the modus operandi for COVID victims. In other news 66 today yeap! Mombasa has 30 new cases half of them from Likoni Nairobi has 26 new cases 15 of them from Kibra Ikiingina hizo vitongoji kutoka ni ngumu! Hio ndio shida. When it entered in Brazil's vitongoji that was it. This is not good at all "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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mpobiz wrote:Dahatre wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Let us not be too hard on Magufuli, he may turn out to be the most prescient among our leaders.
Even without good testing, it seems clear that COVID-19 is evolving differently in Africa than in the West. For one the morbidity rate is quite low. Having a youthful population is finally paying dividends for us (although other factors like weather could be at play also).
Testing, therefore should not be our priority. Our priority should be preventing sickness. This means placing most of our resources into protecting health workers and in testing, treating and isolating those older than 60 (they are not very many, thank God) and anyone suffering from underlying conditions like HIV, Diabetes etc.
One day soon, we shall seek to encourage infection among the healthy, as one path to achieving herd immunity. We might as well start now.
Maghufuli is hiding at his home in Chato (si mjinga). Tzedians are doing their part with hygiene, masks and distancing. That said, East Africa might be forming a nice regional experimental unit. TZ with minimal action, Kenya with it's half-assed donor driven actions based on finger wagging/scolding of citizens and Rwanda/Uganda excelling in comprehensive control. It's everwhere in YouTube. Magufuli public meetings today. Why should he hide? Boris caught covid then healed sembuse yeye? Hapana!he doesn't mean he is in a hole hiding but rather he is out of the cities where infection is likely. He can have gatherings at 10Meters social distance and address the nation. Nobody wants this infection even with the knowledge that one can heal. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Shak wrote:Seeing pictures on social media of Weta's brother's burial. Attendants in hazmat suits. That is the modus operandi for COVID victims. In other news 66 today yeap! Mombasa has 30 new cases half of them from Likoni Nairobi has 26 new cases 15 of them from Kibra Ikiingina hizo vitongoji kutoka ni ngumu! Hio ndio shida. When it entered in Brazil's vitongoji that was it. This is not good at all Yes,its beginning to get slippery when we mention such huge figures in Kibera and likoni. However we are still hopeful having seemingly managed Kawangware and Eastleigh whose population densities are similar. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Shak wrote:Seeing pictures on social media of Weta's brother's burial. Attendants in hazmat suits. That is the modus operandi for COVID victims. In other news 66 today yeap! Mombasa has 30 new cases half of them from Likoni Nairobi has 26 new cases 15 of them from Kibra Ikiingina hizo vitongoji kutoka ni ngumu! Hio ndio shida. When it entered in Brazil's vitongoji that was it. This is not good at all Yes,its beginning to get slippery when we mention such huge figures in Kibera and likoni. However we are still hopeful having seemingly managed Kawangware and Eastleigh whose population densities are similar. I like your optimism. But your Faith is in the wrong place. How did they manage the situation in kawangware and isilii? They just stopped testing so there are no results to record. Now you say it's in kibra. Will they shut down kibra? Many kibra residents work in those so-called upmarket places like langata Karen and lavington where the sonkos travel all over the world wakiokota all kind of trash and bringing it back here. Imagine the wamama wa kufua nguo? Can I be wrong when i say this thing has been here since 1st of January? Wachaneni n.a. magufuli. He is not a city person. Even before covid he was always seen huko mikoani inspecting projects and firing people. I ask you to watch older videos and tell me how close you could come to talk to him. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Shak wrote:Seeing pictures on social media of Weta's brother's burial. Attendants in hazmat suits. That is the modus operandi for COVID victims. In other news 66 today yeap! Mombasa has 30 new cases half of them from Likoni Nairobi has 26 new cases 15 of them from Kibra Ikiingina hizo vitongoji kutoka ni ngumu! Hio ndio shida. When it entered in Brazil's vitongoji that was it. This is not good at all Yes,its beginning to get slippery when we mention such huge figures in Kibera and likoni. However we are still hopeful having seemingly managed Kawangware and Eastleigh whose population densities are similar. Kawangware was 1 family and the relations - so aggressive contact tracing seems to have snuffed it at its roots. I don't really know what is going on in Eastleigh. I hope the contact tracing gets quite aggressive in Likoni and Kibich. it can get out of hand really fast. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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mpobiz wrote:Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Shak wrote:Seeing pictures on social media of Weta's brother's burial. Attendants in hazmat suits. That is the modus operandi for COVID victims. In other news 66 today yeap! Mombasa has 30 new cases half of them from Likoni Nairobi has 26 new cases 15 of them from Kibra Ikiingina hizo vitongoji kutoka ni ngumu! Hio ndio shida. When it entered in Brazil's vitongoji that was it. This is not good at all Yes,its beginning to get slippery when we mention such huge figures in Kibera and likoni. However we are still hopeful having seemingly managed Kawangware and Eastleigh whose population densities are similar. I like your optimism. But your Faith is in the wrong place. How did they manage the situation in kawangware and isilii? They just stopped testing so there are no results to record. Now you say it's in kibra. Will they shut down kibra? Many kibra residents work in those so-called upmarket places like langata Karen and lavington where the sonkos travel all over the world wakiokota all kind of trash and bringing it back here. Imagine the wamama wa kufua nguo? Can I be wrong when i say this thing has been here since 1st of January? Wachaneni n.a. magufuli. He is not a city person. Even before covid he was always seen huko mikoani inspecting projects and firing people. I ask you to watch older videos and tell me how close you could come to talk to him. you are asking people to not do anything and eventually see if we are like Brazil or Not! if Not - we are OK... If we are like Brazil - then what? This 1st of January thing does not stand scrutiny! We have been all over it. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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As things stand the total number of REPORTED deaths in Africa is now 3,020. that's about 1% of what had been modeled. It hit me that the 300,000 deaths being predicted for Africa may not be a big number as people think it will be if you don't factor in time. If 50 countries get an average of 6,000 total deaths (That's the total number of deaths in a country like Canada has up to now on Covid) we are there! All I can see around is people who are tired and bored saying let it rip through our masses and see what happens. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,588
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masukuma wrote:As things stand the total number of REPORTED deaths in Africa is now 3,020. that's about 1% of what had been modeled.
It hit me that the 300,000 deaths being predicted for Africa may not be a big number as people think it will be if you don't factor in time. If 50 countries get an average of 6,000 total deaths (That's the total number of deaths in a country like Canada has up to now on Covid) we are there!
All I can see around is people who are tired and bored saying let it rip through our masses and see what happens.
fatigue was always going to set in. In Kenya at peak flu season watu wamechoka and Nairobi is back to its busy self. Corona is a smart stable genius. You can hide but you can't run. July and August will be interesting to watch.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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wukan wrote:masukuma wrote:As things stand the total number of REPORTED deaths in Africa is now 3,020. that's about 1% of what had been modeled.
It hit me that the 300,000 deaths being predicted for Africa may not be a big number as people think it will be if you don't factor in time. If 50 countries get an average of 6,000 total deaths (That's the total number of deaths in a country like Canada has up to now on Covid) we are there!
All I can see around is people who are tired and bored saying let it rip through our masses and see what happens.
fatigue was always going to set in. In Kenya at peak flu season watu wamechoka and Nairobi is back to its busy self. Corona is a smart stable genius. You can hide but you can't run. July and August will be interesting to watch. Nothing will happen, Corona is gone!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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