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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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I still have my doubts about the UMK/WSR divide. Too open Too predictable Choreographed? Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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kaka2za wrote:I still have my doubts about the UMK/WSR divide. Too open Too predictable Choreographed? Contain Baba until early 2022. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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kaka2za wrote:I still have my doubts about the UMK/WSR divide. Too open Too predictable Choreographed? keep on dreaming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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mkenyan wrote:kaka2za wrote:I still have my doubts about the UMK/WSR divide. Too open Too predictable Choreographed? keep on dreaming My dreams of better Kenya died with the end of Kibaki and Raila Government of National Unity. I am now prepared for at least 20 more years of misrule. By that time, I will be too old to care. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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I think all this drama about Ruto is a ploy to make Kenyans vote for him or a setup to keep baba busy the Ruto business and BBI will keep the old guy busy for sometime, also maybe a ploy to keep Uhuru after 2022 which central Kenya is really against, so far we don't have credible opponents to Ruto almost 2 years to polls, alot can happen by then, my view.... To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Angelica _ann wrote:kaka2za wrote:I still have my doubts about the UMK/WSR divide. Too open Too predictable Choreographed? Contain Baba until early 2022. Me too think so!!! I think it is well agreed between the two to play the game
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law; (b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or (c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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murchr wrote:UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. ... except for that small issue of taking massive loans to be paid by future generations ...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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aemathenge wrote:murchr wrote:UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. ... except for that small issue of taking massive loans to be paid by future generations ... You and the future generation will pay whether UK leaves today or 2032. I dont know if a day passes with no mention of someone extending a loan to this jamuhuri. Meanwhile no effort is being put in place to have local production of consumable items, even nincompoops like Pombe can laugh at us. Honestly, I wish Kibaki had the environment that Uhuru has had (having a solid government in both houses, Kibaki had a tough 2nd term and a messed up first term which he served by ignoring the political noise) Kenya would have overtaken Nigeria even without oil. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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murchr wrote:aemathenge wrote:murchr wrote:UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. ... except for that small issue of taking massive loans to be paid by future generations ... You and the future generation will pay whether UK leaves today or 2032. I dont know if a day passes with no mention of someone extending a loan to this jamuhuri. Meanwhile no effort is being put in place to have local production of consumable items, even nincompoops like Pombe can laugh at us. Honestly, I wish Kibaki had the environment that Uhuru has had (having a solid government in both houses, Kibaki had a tough 2nd term and a messed up first term which he served by ignoring the political noise) Kenya would have overtaken Nigeria even without oil. It's very depressing when UMK unashamedly claims his Legacy is to unite Kenya. It's like he inherited a post Genocide Rwanda. He has wasted 10 yrs doing nothing. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law; (b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or (c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Uhuru is edging very close to violating the constitution which is an impeachable offense. It has been so hard to impeach Governors so I doubt we will see a president impeached in our lifetime. The current crop of politicians can be bought for a pittance. Constitution of Kenya 2010 wrote:
(1) A member of the National Assembly, supported by at least a third of all the members, may move a motion for the impeachment of the President--
(a) on the ground of a gross violation of a provision of this Constitution or of any other law; (b) where there are serious reasons for believing that the President has committed a crime under national or international law; or (c) for gross misconduct.
That's just the Ruto wing. Even if it doesn't completely run its cause it can be an excellent wake up call and a means of running time down. On the ground, Kenyans are tired no bills are being passed just tussling. 2020 is over, Corona has taken over this year, 2021 is a campaign year UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. Kenyans on the ground are also very gullible. They just need a buzz on the need to protect uthamaki. Bring the impeachment motion 'we'  defeat it chapchap we move on. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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Gathige wrote:murchr wrote:aemathenge wrote:murchr wrote:UK's time is up too bad for him, even if he left today there would be no issue. ... except for that small issue of taking massive loans to be paid by future generations ... You and the future generation will pay whether UK leaves today or 2032. I dont know if a day passes with no mention of someone extending a loan to this jamuhuri. Meanwhile no effort is being put in place to have local production of consumable items, even nincompoops like Pombe can laugh at us. Honestly, I wish Kibaki had the environment that Uhuru has had (having a solid government in both houses, Kibaki had a tough 2nd term and a messed up first term which he served by ignoring the political noise) Kenya would have overtaken Nigeria even without oil. It's very depressing when UMK unashamedly claims his Legacy is to unite Kenya. It's like he inherited a post Genocide Rwanda. He has wasted 10 yrs doing nothing. You guys honestly thought UMK would do anything good for the economy when you supported him then, poleni. Personally I think among our likely future presidents, Kenya is doomed. There is no hope. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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