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Rank: Member Joined: 9/25/2008 Posts: 510
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What is happening in Russia....numbers jumped to 187,859??? I AM trust in GOD, I AM belief in THYSELF
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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wukan wrote:So turns out that in New York 66% of those hospitalized were the ones who stayed at home. Homeless people were like 2% of the hospitalizations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ7Bv41T0lw
Anyone watched 'World War Z'? There is this part where Gerry Lane(Brad Pitt) says that "I used to work in danger zones and people who moved survived and those who didn't...movement is life...you have a better chance if you come with us" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JNw8PP5qgo
You are very right. Staying home does more harm. instead we should involve ourselves in our daily hustle. a small homa has never stopped us from working Listen to the president https://youtu.be/wN1HZIjq3BMPolitics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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T-Bag wrote:What is happening in Russia....numbers jumped to 187,859??? It's called Mass testing. Not target testing. Let them try the same here. The outcome will make Some of you to move to turbi desert. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Quote:"The tests that Tanzania is using, we know they are working very well," John Nkengasong told journalists.
The Africa CDC, along with the Jack Ma Foundation, a charity founded by the Chinese billionaire, supplied the tests, Nkengasong said.
Ma, founder of Alibaba Group, has donated thousands of tests kits, masks and protective gear to African nations and the equipment is being used across the continent. No other countries have made public complaints about the tests.
The World Health Organization expressed confidence in the tests. https://www.yahoo.com/ne...rejects-095129329.html.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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mpobiz wrote:T-Bag wrote:What is happening in Russia....numbers jumped to 187,859??? It's called Mass testing. Not target testing. Let them try the same here. The outcome will make Some of you to move to turbi desert. Russia positive rate remains at 4% ..hasn't changed. Kenya rate remains at 2% If Kenya goes for Mass testing there will be more positive cases but positive % could drop to 1% I will not repeat what @Masukuma has posted here so often. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/...9-early-cases-1.5555573
@Masukuma,our 100+ days may just turn out to be true. And if it turns out true,then we may have a new direction in how we shall deal with the virus. I hear MOH has asked for data from Nov 2019. Am convinced what we have been saying may be confirmed true.Tuligonjeka na tukapona. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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kaka2za wrote:mpobiz wrote:T-Bag wrote:What is happening in Russia....numbers jumped to 187,859??? It's called Mass testing. Not target testing. Let them try the same here. The outcome will make Some of you to move to turbi desert. Russia positive rate remains at 4% ..hasn't changed. Kenya rate remains at 2% If Kenya goes for Mass testing there will be more positive cases but positive % could drop to less than 1%I will not repeat what @Masukuma has posted here so often. Uganda is doing more test and lots of them are negative. they reported on 3,809 tests where they got 1 positive case. Yet we think we may have had the disease here longer and spreading and it never spread to Uganda? Uganda have done 50,711 tests and only got 101 positive cases. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Bigchick wrote:https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/who-france-covid-19-early-cases-1.5555573
@Masukuma,our 100+ days may just turn out to be true.
And if it turns out true,then we may have a new direction in how we shall deal with the virus.
I hear MOH has asked for data from Nov 2019.
Am convinced what we have been saying may be confirmed true.Tuligonjeka na tukapona. Indeed... it is possible that we had a case in country before March 5th when Brenda came into the country... the question is - how far back does it go. the article you talked about was for france (174,791 known cases). It happened in the US as well As well as US (1,295,058 Known cases) but both have substantial deaths. Countries with Covid for 100+ days seem to have a spike of deaths (p.s both have substantial number of black people in them too) All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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Your data is alarmist and misleading. Because a layman would be misled to think that for every 500 people who are dying in the UK, 400 are black and 100 white. However the truth is that blacks make up only 1% of uk population. So if each day 100 people die due to corona, and people die proportionally, then we expect that 1 dead would be black and 99 would be white. But when they say that blacks are 4 times more likely to die, it means that instead of 1 black man and 99 white men dying each day, we have 4 black men and 96 white men dying each day. What is surprising is that @masukuma and the western media are focusing on the 4 black deaths instead of the 96 white deaths. So however you spin this corona thing the fact remains that more non black people are dying and THIS IS NOT A BLACK MAN DISEASE. NB: We know that Bill Gates and his hired bloggers like @masukuma are desperate to make this a black mans disease so that they can send vaccines to Africa to sterilize and control the black population in the guise of fighting corona. Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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masukuma wrote:kaka2za wrote:mpobiz wrote:T-Bag wrote:What is happening in Russia....numbers jumped to 187,859??? It's called Mass testing. Not target testing. Let them try the same here. The outcome will make Some of you to move to turbi desert. Russia positive rate remains at 4% ..hasn't changed. Kenya rate remains at 2% If Kenya goes for Mass testing there will be more positive cases but positive % could drop to less than 1%I will not repeat what @Masukuma has posted here so often. Uganda is doing more test and lots of them are negative. they reported on 3,809 tests where they got 1 positive case. Yet we think we may have had the disease here longer and spreading and it never spread to Uganda? Uganda have done 50,711 tests and only got 101 positive cases. masukuma, i get your point and as you have raised before earlier in the thread. however, the getting of a positive case out of 3,809 tests (the same as with the kenya's low percentages on the targeted testing) cannot be used to discredit the theory that the disease may have been here longer. they are not doing a serology test to see if people have been infected before the test is for those who are currently positive. meaning if angelica's theory is right those low positives we are getting are only for those who came late to the party.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Latest:
Virus mutating to a more dangerous form
Children contacting the virus are getting symptoms that look like the Kawasaki disease. (cordial vascular collapse) Where the heart is attacked.
This is the stupidity with Herd Immunity - Herd Immunity assumes no long term effects of the current strains and also fails to understand the fact that the longer a virus stays in our midst... the more the likelihood it will mutate. People are always getting flu vaccines every year because it mutates so much and the strains from this year are substantially different from what people experienced last year. the antibodies from last year are not effective against newly spun out strains. The longer Covid stays in humans and is replicating - the more likely that the mutations spin out something that nullifies the effects of Herd Immunity (acquired by sacrificing a substantial number of people). The ONLY WAY IS TO CRUSH THIS THING. The current strains seem to spare the young and strong... who tells you that the newly spun out mutations will spare them? it's a ridiculous proposition. So apparently the assumption that children were not getting it after exposure is wrong. Their immune system has been on an overdrive keeping the viral load low. Now the immunity system is fighting itself attacking the body. Children are getting sick about 6weeks after exposure "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 2,038 Location: GA
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And the debate continues The problem with predicting coronavirus apocalypse in Africa"If the low numbers are only a result of the lack of testing, African countries would be seeing increased rates of hospitalisations and even deaths, which has not been the case so far"
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Latest:
Virus mutating to a more dangerous form
Children contacting the virus are getting symptoms that look like the Kawasaki disease. (cordial vascular collapse) Where the heart is attacked.
This is the stupidity with Herd Immunity - Herd Immunity assumes no long term effects of the current strains and also fails to understand the fact that the longer a virus stays in our midst... the more the likelihood it will mutate. People are always getting flu vaccines every year because it mutates so much and the strains from this year are substantially different from what people experienced last year. the antibodies from last year are not effective against newly spun out strains. The longer Covid stays in humans and is replicating - the more likely that the mutations spin out something that nullifies the effects of Herd Immunity (acquired by sacrificing a substantial number of people). The ONLY WAY IS TO CRUSH THIS THING. The current strains seem to spare the young and strong... who tells you that the newly spun out mutations will spare them? it's a ridiculous proposition. So apparently the assumption that children were not getting it after exposure is wrong. Their immune system has been on an overdrive keeping the viral load low. Now the immunity system is fighting itself attacking the body. Children are getting sick about 6weeks after exposure This was presented by a U.K doctor. I saw it about 2 weeks ago. This were purely observations in the U.K and nowhere else. You have also forgotten to tell us that he said that this only affected 0.005% of infected children in the U.K Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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mpobiz wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Latest:
Virus mutating to a more dangerous form
Children contacting the virus are getting symptoms that look like the Kawasaki disease. (cordial vascular collapse) Where the heart is attacked.
This is the stupidity with Herd Immunity - Herd Immunity assumes no long term effects of the current strains and also fails to understand the fact that the longer a virus stays in our midst... the more the likelihood it will mutate. People are always getting flu vaccines every year because it mutates so much and the strains from this year are substantially different from what people experienced last year. the antibodies from last year are not effective against newly spun out strains. The longer Covid stays in humans and is replicating - the more likely that the mutations spin out something that nullifies the effects of Herd Immunity (acquired by sacrificing a substantial number of people). The ONLY WAY IS TO CRUSH THIS THING. The current strains seem to spare the young and strong... who tells you that the newly spun out mutations will spare them? it's a ridiculous proposition. So apparently the assumption that children were not getting it after exposure is wrong. Their immune system has been on an overdrive keeping the viral load low. Now the immunity system is fighting itself attacking the body. Children are getting sick about 6weeks after exposure This was presented by a U.K doctor. I saw it about 2 weeks ago. This were purely observations in the U.K and nowhere else. You have also forgotten to tell us that he said that this only affected 0.005% of infected children in the U.K You are 2 weeks behind news if you think this has not been observed elsewhere "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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murchr wrote:mpobiz wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Latest:
Virus mutating to a more dangerous form
Children contacting the virus are getting symptoms that look like the Kawasaki disease. (cordial vascular collapse) Where the heart is attacked.
This is the stupidity with Herd Immunity - Herd Immunity assumes no long term effects of the current strains and also fails to understand the fact that the longer a virus stays in our midst... the more the likelihood it will mutate. People are always getting flu vaccines every year because it mutates so much and the strains from this year are substantially different from what people experienced last year. the antibodies from last year are not effective against newly spun out strains. The longer Covid stays in humans and is replicating - the more likely that the mutations spin out something that nullifies the effects of Herd Immunity (acquired by sacrificing a substantial number of people). The ONLY WAY IS TO CRUSH THIS THING. The current strains seem to spare the young and strong... who tells you that the newly spun out mutations will spare them? it's a ridiculous proposition. So apparently the assumption that children were not getting it after exposure is wrong. Their immune system has been on an overdrive keeping the viral load low. Now the immunity system is fighting itself attacking the body. Children are getting sick about 6weeks after exposure This was presented by a U.K doctor. I saw it about 2 weeks ago. This were purely observations in the U.K and nowhere else. You have also forgotten to tell us that he said that this only affected 0.005% of infected children in the U.K You are 2 weeks behind news if you think this has not been observed elsewhere Why are you posting vague statements? You make it seen you are cooking up stuff just to remain relevant here. What do you mean by elsewhere? I told you the other day of you have nothing to tell us just hung your keyboard inside your bathroom the way you hung your panties. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,588
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mkenyan wrote:
masukuma, i get your point and as you have raised before earlier in the thread. however, the getting of a positive case out of 3,809 tests (the same as with the kenya's low percentages on the targeted testing) cannot be used to discredit the theory that the disease may have been here longer. they are not doing a serology test to see if people have been infected before the test is for those who are currently positive. meaning if angelica's theory is right those low positives we are getting are only for those who came late to the party.
February flu keeps popping up Quote:Health officials in Nakuru County are searching for at least 20 people who got into contact with a 13-year-old Covid-19 patient. The boy from Nyakinyua village in Solai, Subukia Sub-county, was one of the 25 new patients the Health ministry announced on Thursday evening. Nakuru's Health executive Gichuki Kariuki said the patient was taken to Nakuru Level Five Hospital and that the officials had embarked on rapid contact tracing. TUBERCULOSIS The Nation learnt that the boy first sought treatment for tuberculosis at the facility in February. He was released to go home but he was readmitted on April 13 and found to have the coronavirus after a 28-day stay at the hospital. https://www.nation.co.ke...46332-mk12wq/index.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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wukan wrote:mkenyan wrote:
masukuma, i get your point and as you have raised before earlier in the thread. however, the getting of a positive case out of 3,809 tests (the same as with the kenya's low percentages on the targeted testing) cannot be used to discredit the theory that the disease may have been here longer. they are not doing a serology test to see if people have been infected before the test is for those who are currently positive. meaning if angelica's theory is right those low positives we are getting are only for those who came late to the party.
February flu keeps popping up Quote:Health officials in Nakuru County are searching for at least 20 people who got into contact with a 13-year-old Covid-19 patient. The boy from Nyakinyua village in Solai, Subukia Sub-county, was one of the 25 new patients the Health ministry announced on Thursday evening. Nakuru's Health executive Gichuki Kariuki said the patient was taken to Nakuru Level Five Hospital and that the officials had embarked on rapid contact tracing. TUBERCULOSIS The Nation learnt that the boy first sought treatment for tuberculosis at the facility in February. He was released to go home but he was readmitted on April 13 and found to have the coronavirus after a 28-day stay at the hospital. https://www.nation.co.ke...46332-mk12wq/index.html
He may have been sick in February with TB and not necessarily COVID. Since he cannot have had Covid for 90+ days within him only for it to manifest now. The other thing is the Dec and Jan “bad flu” had symptom. Did anyone report Fevers specifically (that’s a huge sign of Covid). Ama ni kukohoa na makamasi (the last one not guaranteed to accompany Covid)?. How comes these symptoms suddenly disappeared and yet the disease was supposed to be spreading ? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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masukuma wrote:wukan wrote:mkenyan wrote:
masukuma, i get your point and as you have raised before earlier in the thread. however, the getting of a positive case out of 3,809 tests (the same as with the kenya's low percentages on the targeted testing) cannot be used to discredit the theory that the disease may have been here longer. they are not doing a serology test to see if people have been infected before the test is for those who are currently positive. meaning if angelica's theory is right those low positives we are getting are only for those who came late to the party.
February flu keeps popping up Quote:Health officials in Nakuru County are searching for at least 20 people who got into contact with a 13-year-old Covid-19 patient. The boy from Nyakinyua village in Solai, Subukia Sub-county, was one of the 25 new patients the Health ministry announced on Thursday evening. Nakuru's Health executive Gichuki Kariuki said the patient was taken to Nakuru Level Five Hospital and that the officials had embarked on rapid contact tracing. TUBERCULOSIS The Nation learnt that the boy first sought treatment for tuberculosis at the facility in February. He was released to go home but he was readmitted on April 13 and found to have the coronavirus after a 28-day stay at the hospital. https://www.nation.co.ke...46332-mk12wq/index.html
He may have been sick in February with TB and not necessarily COVID. Since he cannot have had Covid for 90+ days within him only for it to manifest now. The other thing is the Dec and Jan “bad flu” had symptom. Did anyone report Fevers specifically (that’s a huge sign of Covid). Ama ni kukohoa na makamasi (the last one not guaranteed to accompany Covid)?. How comes these symptoms suddenly disappeared and yet the disease was supposed to be spreading ? Have you considered that he may be reinfected? If nobody knows what is going on in the family or the village. The rate of infection and reinfection is unavoidable. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:wukan wrote:mkenyan wrote:
masukuma, i get your point and as you have raised before earlier in the thread. however, the getting of a positive case out of 3,809 tests (the same as with the kenya's low percentages on the targeted testing) cannot be used to discredit the theory that the disease may have been here longer. they are not doing a serology test to see if people have been infected before the test is for those who are currently positive. meaning if angelica's theory is right those low positives we are getting are only for those who came late to the party.
February flu keeps popping up Quote:Health officials in Nakuru County are searching for at least 20 people who got into contact with a 13-year-old Covid-19 patient. The boy from Nyakinyua village in Solai, Subukia Sub-county, was one of the 25 new patients the Health ministry announced on Thursday evening. Nakuru's Health executive Gichuki Kariuki said the patient was taken to Nakuru Level Five Hospital and that the officials had embarked on rapid contact tracing. TUBERCULOSIS The Nation learnt that the boy first sought treatment for tuberculosis at the facility in February. He was released to go home but he was readmitted on April 13 and found to have the coronavirus after a 28-day stay at the hospital. https://www.nation.co.ke...46332-mk12wq/index.html
He may have been sick in February with TB and not necessarily COVID. Since he cannot have had Covid for 90+ days within him only for it to manifest now. The other thing is the Dec and Jan “bad flu” had symptom. Did anyone report Fevers specifically (that’s a huge sign of Covid). Ama ni kukohoa na makamasi (the last one not guaranteed to accompany Covid)?. How comes these symptoms suddenly disappeared and yet the disease was supposed to be spreading ? Have you considered that he may be reinfected? If nobody knows what is going on in the family or the village. The rate of infection and reinfection is unavoidable. masukuma's position is most likely correct. the last i read, the cases of people testing positive after recovery were actually false positives.
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