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Dahatre
#1321 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2020 9:27:27 PM
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mpobiz wrote:
The government should concentrate more on General hygiene and wearing of masks
All this lockdowns should be lifted and we continue with our daily biz.

You missed the point. Giuliani was making his point using information he pulled out of his ass. cancer, obesity and heart disease are not infectious and do not need contact tracing. .
Dahatre
#1322 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2020 10:04:36 PM
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murchr wrote:
Whereas its noble for people to have kitchen gardens on balconies etc those balconies are also our cloth lines hangout dens and others are too dusty for life. Surely, wouldn't it be prudent for the govt to ensure that food sold to the mass market is mapped from the source. We have been eating sewage food for a long time but nothing is done, the govt has been watching as the markets get filthy but there has been no initiative to ensure the markets are clean.

Kitchen gardens = Money wasted
These people got jokes….
Instead of spending resources to strengthen our food systems, they are busy killing local agriculture in exchange for industrial agriculture and importation of Idaho potatoes and Lord knows what else, then they want us to grow food in non-existent balconies….I smell a new scam and/or tenderpreneureship for balcony containers

Aki Kenya is exhausting…
Angelica _ann
#1323 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2020 10:48:58 PM
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Dahatre wrote:
murchr wrote:
Whereas its noble for people to have kitchen gardens on balconies etc those balconies are also our cloth lines hangout dens and others are too dusty for life. Surely, wouldn't it be prudent for the govt to ensure that food sold to the mass market is mapped from the source. We have been eating sewage food for a long time but nothing is done, the govt has been watching as the markets get filthy but there has been no initiative to ensure the markets are clean.

Kitchen gardens = Money wasted
These people got jokes….
Instead of spending resources to strengthen our food systems, they are busy killing local agriculture in exchange for industrial agriculture and importation of Idaho potatoes and Lord knows what else, then they want us to grow food in non-existent balconies….I smell a new scam and/or tenderpreneureship for balcony containers

Aki Kenya is exhausting…


I listened to what the lady was 'reading' (she didn't own the statement) and when she reached obesity blah blah blah i wondered weather she knew her audience and switched off.

COVID monies must be eaten.
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mpobiz
#1324 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 3:32:18 AM
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alma1 wrote:
Mpobiz, you have a long way to get to Hardwood

"I think we all agree...." is not a statement that emotes positivism. It shows that you are not sure of what you are saying.

I may not be sure about Covid-19, but I'm very sure that you can make better use of your bandwidth. But heck, it's your bandwidth. Use it as you please.

There is a way out of you out of the doldrums of people not trusting anything you say. You need to prove you mean what you say. With action.

I'll give you a few suggestions:

1. Go into a Covid hospital and prove it's a mild disease.
2. Invite people to your house where your children are living and your parents.

Those two can help us understand that we should not panic. We should not quarantine. And you can at least be one of the people who prove or disapprove "herd mentality"

It's that simple. Otherwise, your posts here reek of being paid less than 527 bob and that's not good for the Kenyan economy. It shows that wages for "mbroggers" are dropping.



First I should alert you that covid loves high blood pressure and hypertension which are all products of exreme pannic. Please stop your useless "pannic".
In my statement of "I think we all agree" shows that I am confident of what i say here and I am alluding to the fact that there are person's here in this forum that agree with me fully or to some extent.
I am also armed with evidence of why all is well
1. The deputy governor and all his close contacts including your babu are doing well.
2. How many covid patients do we have in our hospitals compared to other diseases like malaria? Note quarantine or isolation facilities dont hold patients. Those are just people held against their will and are ok. This people should be urged to self isolate if found to be infected. Are there such facilities in U.S England or even our closest civilised neighbour south Africa? For non citizens in those nations people are held in hotel rooms where you can self isolate.but what we have here are wards with beds only half a meter apart. People are bungled together not knowing who is infected and who is not. That's why most of this positive cases we hear about are found inside those isolation cum quarantine facilities.
3. I am not afraid of inviting people in my house because as trump has named it the invisible enemy. You won't know where he strikes next. And I have said it here before covid is with us and its not a matter of how but when it will infect you. I hope you are one or the people lucky to get infected far much later like next year when the vaccine will have already been dicoverd.
Remember today we were woken up by news that 5 Kenyan truck drivers tested positive in Uganda. Who will ever know how they got infected. Maybe one of their contacts is headed your way or my way.
4. A report released today by the MOH says that most Kenyans are asymptomatic. I am sure you are one of them.
Finally I can announce to you that I am not a blogger. I am just a small time hustler whose credit worthiness is so high that I can walk to any bank here in this country and they would not hesitate to finance me to buy you and maybe half your clan. My posts here are very public. I would like for you to go and look at them especially my earliest writtings. There you will get to know who is mpobiz.
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Bigchick
#1325 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:14:39 AM
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Fellow Wazuans,we are on day 45 since the first case was reported and probably day 100 since COVID checked into Kenya.(I believe it for here much earlier.9ur hospitals are not overflowing(I hear a leading private hospital is operating at 30%),we have not heard of mass deaths either or strange deaths.Semi lockdown has happened and we are getting 10 to 15 people daily and this will continue for as long as we are testing.Our current situation is not sustainable and we need a way out.Experts in this Republick please guide us on how to get started by 1st May.

And yes let us continue to adhere to guidelines to keep it at bay.Let us take extra caution for those with known underlying issues and the elderly.Let us up our immunity.

#Weshallovercome.

Meanwhile where is @Tycho?
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kaka2za
#1326 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 12:32:28 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
Fellow Wazuans,we are on day 45 since the first case was reported and probably day 100 since COVID checked into Kenya.(I believe it for here much earlier.9ur hospitals are not overflowing(I hear a leading private hospital is operating at 30%),we have not heard of mass deaths either or strange deaths.Semi lockdown has happened and we are getting 10 to 15 people daily and this will continue for as long as we are testing.Our current situation is not sustainable and we need a way out.Experts in this Republick please guide us on how to get started by 1st May.

And yes let us continue to adhere to guidelines to keep it at bay.Let us take extra caution for those with known underlying issues and the elderly.Let us up our immunity.

#Weshallovercome.

Meanwhile where is @Tycho?


Meanwhile, scientists ought to investigate why Africa has defied all modeling projections. Fatalities remain low even in Countries like Burundi who appear clueless about mitigation factors.

Meanwhile, Malaria is ravaging the continent.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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mpobiz
#1327 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:16:18 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Fellow Wazuans,we are on day 45 since the first case was reported and probably day 100 since COVID checked into Kenya.(I believe it for here much earlier.9ur hospitals are not overflowing(I hear a leading private hospital is operating at 30%),we have not heard of mass deaths either or strange deaths.Semi lockdown has happened and we are getting 10 to 15 people daily and this will continue for as long as we are testing.Our current situation is not sustainable and we need a way out.Experts in this Republick please guide us on how to get started by 1st May.

And yes let us continue to adhere to guidelines to keep it at bay.Let us take extra caution for those with known underlying issues and the elderly.Let us up our immunity.

#Weshallovercome.

Meanwhile where is @Tycho?


Meanwhile, scientists ought to investigate why Africa has defied all modeling projections. Fatalities remain low even in Countries like Burundi who appear clueless about mitigation factors.

Meanwhile, Malaria is ravaging the continent.


This scientists are clueless . The only thing they can see is a huge epidemic in Africa and vaccines tests should be conducted here first.
It is now clear that there is no universal way in dealing certain diseases or this case certain pandemics. We should seek for local solutions (i hope I am not repeating myself too much). Following models that are being used elsewhere in the world only increases suffering and social strive.
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Angelica _ann
#1328 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:20:43 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
Fellow Wazuans,we are on day 45 since the first case was reported and probably day 100 since COVID checked into Kenya.(I believe it for here much earlier.9ur hospitals are not overflowing(I hear a leading private hospital is operating at 30%),we have not heard of mass deaths either or strange deaths.Semi lockdown has happened and we are getting 10 to 15 people daily and this will continue for as long as we are testing.Our current situation is not sustainable and we need a way out.Experts in this Republick please guide us on how to get started by 1st May.

And yes let us continue to adhere to guidelines to keep it at bay.Let us take extra caution for those with known underlying issues and the elderly.Let us up our immunity.

#Weshallovercome.

Meanwhile where is @Tycho?


He kept the thread going for long until some members laughed him, i guess that just triggered his other side. I hope he is well.
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Angelica _ann
#1329 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:59:39 PM
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Curfew ..................

Curfew and inter county movements earlier announced extended by 21 more days, UMK sounds clueless and helpless on this COVID thing. I almost think herd mentality works better for us in Africa. As Trump smile and his scientists had found out, Corona vs Jua, Jua wins!!!
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T-Bag
#1330 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 3:13:06 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Curfew ..................

Curfew and inter county movements earlier announced extended by 21 more days, UMK sounds clueless and helpless on this COVID thing. I almost think herd mentality works better for us in Africa. As Trump smile and his scientists had found out, Corona vs Jua, Jua wins!!!


Was he smiling somehow or naona zangu.

Kwale, Kilifi and Mombasa want lockdown.....give it Mr. President
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tom_boy
#1331 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 4:08:17 PM
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T-Bag wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Curfew ..................

Curfew and inter county movements earlier announced extended by 21 more days, UMK sounds clueless and helpless on this COVID thing. I almost think herd mentality works better for us in Africa. As Trump smile and his scientists had found out, Corona vs Jua, Jua wins!!!


Was he smiling somehow or naona zangu.

Kwale, Kilifi and Mombasa want lockdown.....give it Mr. President



The whole concept of curfew and partial lockdowns is misguided.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
kaka2za
#1332 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 6:45:09 PM
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tom_boy wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Curfew ..................

Curfew and inter county movements earlier announced extended by 21 more days, UMK sounds clueless and helpless on this COVID thing. I almost think herd mentality works better for us in Africa. As Trump smile and his scientists had found out, Corona vs Jua, Jua wins!!!


Was he smiling somehow or naona zangu.

Kwale, Kilifi and Mombasa want lockdown.....give it Mr. President



The whole concept of curfew and partial lockdowns is misguided.


Can you offer some guidance please?

What other options do we have and please dont mention total lockdown because it would kill more people than Corona itself.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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T-Bag
#1333 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 7:30:51 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drxsD6PKWlk
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masukuma
#1334 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 7:37:55 PM
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some corrections
1) Corona could not have been here for 100 days (that's early Jan) without choking our hospitals or at least having most of us infected by now. We are not a different species.
2) On clinical trials for the vaccines - it's not going to be conducted here. It's actually sad that antivaxxers have won the psychological anti-science game on this one with their conspiracy theories. On the flipside - what have africans done for the world? a few of us being part of a GLOBAL test would be the only contribution you will have made for this disease and if you wonder if I would submit myself to clinical trials - sure! I would.
3) the huge epidemic will come if you don't take care of yourselves. This is AFRICA!!

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mpobiz
#1335 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 8:15:03 PM
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masukuma wrote:
some corrections
1) Corona could not have been here for 100 days (that's early Jan) without choking our hospitals or at least having most of us infected by now. We are not a different species.
2) On clinical trials for the vaccines - it's not going to be conducted here. It's actually sad that antivaxxers have won the psychological anti-science game on this one with their conspiracy theories. On the flipside - what have africans done for the world? a few of us being part of a GLOBAL test would be the only contribution you will have made for this disease and if you wonder if I would submit myself to clinical trials - sure! I would.
3) the huge epidemic will come if you don't take care of yourselves. This is AFRICA!!



When I watch your video it provides even more proof that corona is a rich man's desease. The loads of pathogens this population is exposed to on a daily basis corona is relegated to just a common flu which is also part of the corona family.

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=894531#post894531

Africa tuogope tu malaria.
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kaka2za
#1336 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 8:57:46 PM
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mpobiz wrote:
masukuma wrote:
some corrections
1) Corona could not have been here for 100 days (that's early Jan) without choking our hospitals or at least having most of us infected by now. We are not a different species.
2) On clinical trials for the vaccines - it's not going to be conducted here. It's actually sad that antivaxxers have won the psychological anti-science game on this one with their conspiracy theories. On the flipside - what have africans done for the world? a few of us being part of a GLOBAL test would be the only contribution you will have made for this disease and if you wonder if I would submit myself to clinical trials - sure! I would.
3) the huge epidemic will come if you don't take care of yourselves. This is AFRICA!!



When I watch your video it provides even more proof that corona is a rich man's desease. The loads of pathogens this population is exposed to on a daily basis corona is relegated to just a common flu which is also part of the corona family.

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=894531#post894531

Africa tuogope tu malaria.


I hate it when I have to agree with you.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Bigchick
#1337 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:49:42 PM
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masukuma wrote:
some corrections
1) Corona could not have been here for 100 days (that's early Jan) without choking our hospitals or at least having most of us infected by now. We are not a different species.
2) On clinical trials for the vaccines - it's not going to be conducted here. It's actually sad that antivaxxers have won the psychological anti-science game on this one with their conspiracy theories. On the flipside - what have africans done for the world? a few of us being part of a GLOBAL test would be the only contribution you will have made for this disease and if you wonder if I would submit myself to clinical trials - sure! I would.
3) the huge epidemic will come if you don't take care of yourselves. This is AFRICA!!




@Masukuma,I strongly believe it landed in January or even Dec 2019.My conviction is based on 3 cases of people close to me who were sick around that time and other cases I have had from those dates.Cases with similar symptoms and healing pattern.Thank God for ignorance coz if the same had occurred today in the COVID season they would have died of panic than from the disease.

They took drugs and concoctions believing it's a normal cold/flu and fought it off.

The bottom line being yes we are getting infected but not getting severe hence no mass cases in hospital.
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masukuma
#1338 Posted : Saturday, April 25, 2020 11:49:49 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
masukuma wrote:
some corrections
1) Corona could not have been here for 100 days (that's early Jan) without choking our hospitals or at least having most of us infected by now. We are not a different species.
2) On clinical trials for the vaccines - it's not going to be conducted here. It's actually sad that antivaxxers have won the psychological anti-science game on this one with their conspiracy theories. On the flipside - what have africans done for the world? a few of us being part of a GLOBAL test would be the only contribution you will have made for this disease and if you wonder if I would submit myself to clinical trials - sure! I would.
3) the huge epidemic will come if you don't take care of yourselves. This is AFRICA!!




@Masukuma,I strongly believe it landed in January or even Dec 2019.My conviction is based on 3 cases of people close to me who were sick around that time and other cases I have had from those dates.Cases with similar symptoms and healing pattern.Thank God for ignorance coz if the same had occurred today in the COVID season they would have died of panic than from the disease.

They took drugs and concoctions believing it's a normal cold/flu and fought it off.

The bottom line being yes we are getting infected but not getting severe hence no mass cases in hospital.


Jan 2020? are Africans a different species altogether?

We all agree that the disease is infectious as f*ck!! Let's assume that the disease manifests differently for Kenyans (not Africans - since we can see cases increasing all over the place). does it not infect us that much? no social distancing for 100 days, kissing, hugging, coughing, shaking hands... 100 days and there is no trace other than anecdotal stories of "a bad flu"? We are testing people now and each person who is tested seems to have spread it to others - this "normal" behaviour of Covid is manifesting now but not 100 days ago?
the only way for the people with "a bad flu" to determine whether they had covid is to get both and tell us IF THEY WERE THE SAME.

Why arent our hospitals full? this disease is very infectious and when it gets people with immunocompromised systems. People with HIV and poor diets - it f***s them up. I personally know 2 people who had it and the fever is UNBELIEVABLE. It leaves them very very weak. One is a Kenyan living abroad and he was f*cked up - no voice for a few days. chest like a truck resting on it. He is better now. you want to tell me that we would have an infectious disease that travels that fast and we wouldn't notice it?

Are Kenyans a different species?

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Shak
#1339 Posted : Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:29:19 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
masukuma wrote:
some corrections
1) Corona could not have been here for 100 days (that's early Jan) without choking our hospitals or at least having most of us infected by now. We are not a different species.
2) On clinical trials for the vaccines - it's not going to be conducted here. It's actually sad that antivaxxers have won the psychological anti-science game on this one with their conspiracy theories. On the flipside - what have africans done for the world? a few of us being part of a GLOBAL test would be the only contribution you will have made for this disease and if you wonder if I would submit myself to clinical trials - sure! I would.
3) the huge epidemic will come if you don't take care of yourselves. This is AFRICA!!




@Masukuma,I strongly believe it landed in January or even Dec 2019.My conviction is based on 3 cases of people close to me who were sick around that time and other cases I have had from those dates.Cases with similar symptoms and healing pattern.Thank God for ignorance coz if the same had occurred today in the COVID season they would have died of panic than from the disease.

They took drugs and concoctions believing it's a normal cold/flu and fought it off.

The bottom line being yes we are getting infected but not getting severe hence no mass cases in hospital.


Jan 2020? are Africans a different species altogether?

We all agree that the disease is infectious as f*ck!! Let's assume that the disease manifests differently for Kenyans (not Africans - since we can see cases increasing all over the place). does it not infect us that much? no social distancing for 100 days, kissing, hugging, coughing, shaking hands... 100 days and there is no trace other than anecdotal stories of "a bad flu"? We are testing people now and each person who is tested seems to have spread it to others - this "normal" behaviour of Covid is manifesting now but not 100 days ago?
the only way for the people with "a bad flu" to determine whether they had covid is to get both and tell us IF THEY WERE THE SAME.

Why arent our hospitals full? this disease is very infectious and when it gets people with immunocompromised systems. People with HIV and poor diets - it f***s them up. I personally know 2 people who had it and the fever is UNBELIEVABLE. It leaves them very very weak. One is a Kenyan living abroad and he was f*cked up - no voice for a few days. chest like a truck resting on it. He is better now. you want to tell me that we would have an infectious disease that travels that fast and we wouldn't notice it?

Are Kenyans a different species?



I tend to agree with @Bigchick. My mother in law also had severe pneumonia late last year as did my niece-who knows whether it was COVID? I also think the spike in pneumonia cases in January and February this year was partly attributed to it. I wish we could have a reliable antibody test to know the true scale of spread.
T-Bag
#1340 Posted : Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:51:09 AM
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Shak wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
masukuma wrote:
some corrections
1) Corona could not have been here for 100 days (that's early Jan) without choking our hospitals or at least having most of us infected by now. We are not a different species.
2) On clinical trials for the vaccines - it's not going to be conducted here. It's actually sad that antivaxxers have won the psychological anti-science game on this one with their conspiracy theories. On the flipside - what have africans done for the world? a few of us being part of a GLOBAL test would be the only contribution you will have made for this disease and if you wonder if I would submit myself to clinical trials - sure! I would.
3) the huge epidemic will come if you don't take care of yourselves. This is AFRICA!!




@Masukuma,I strongly believe it landed in January or even Dec 2019.My conviction is based on 3 cases of people close to me who were sick around that time and other cases I have had from those dates.Cases with similar symptoms and healing pattern.Thank God for ignorance coz if the same had occurred today in the COVID season they would have died of panic than from the disease.

They took drugs and concoctions believing it's a normal cold/flu and fought it off.

The bottom line being yes we are getting infected but not getting severe hence no mass cases in hospital.


Jan 2020? are Africans a different species altogether?

We all agree that the disease is infectious as f*ck!! Let's assume that the disease manifests differently for Kenyans (not Africans - since we can see cases increasing all over the place). does it not infect us that much? no social distancing for 100 days, kissing, hugging, coughing, shaking hands... 100 days and there is no trace other than anecdotal stories of "a bad flu"? We are testing people now and each person who is tested seems to have spread it to others - this "normal" behaviour of Covid is manifesting now but not 100 days ago?
the only way for the people with "a bad flu" to determine whether they had covid is to get both and tell us IF THEY WERE THE SAME.

Why arent our hospitals full? this disease is very infectious and when it gets people with immunocompromised systems. People with HIV and poor diets - it f***s them up. I personally know 2 people who had it and the fever is UNBELIEVABLE. It leaves them very very weak. One is a Kenyan living abroad and he was f*cked up - no voice for a few days. chest like a truck resting on it. He is better now. you want to tell me that we would have an infectious disease that travels that fast and we wouldn't notice it?

Are Kenyans a different species?



I tend to agree with @Bigchick. My mother in law also had severe pneumonia late last year as did my niece-who knows whether it was COVID? I also think the spike in pneumonia cases in January and February this year was partly attributed to it. I wish we could have a reliable antibody test to know the true scale of spread.


Interested in that antibody test, someone I know had mild flu and later pneumonia on 24th to 31st March 2020. Admitted and put on antibiotics and got healed. The doc said he did not fit covid-19 profile coz he did not have a cough, a fever, high temp,no history of travel or contact plus it responded well to antiboitics (i.e bacterial pnemonia). If it was Covid then we are many sick people, do we really know this thing? N/B That was before any pneumonia was included as SARS-COV-2 profile.
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