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Rank: Member Joined: 8/19/2009 Posts: 173 Location: NAIROBI
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Four Kenya MPs have announced their defection to the group opposed to the proposed constitution, which they say is divisive. Jamleck Kamau (Kigumo), Peter Mwathi (Limuru), Silas Muriuki Ruteere (North Imenti) and Nominated MP George Nyamweya said Wednesday that their decision was also informed by the refusal of the House Business Committee to slot Mr Kamau's Referendum Bill in the Order Paper. So. what changed in the draft?  http://www.nation.co.ke/...6/-/ukfuuy/-/index.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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There eyes are finally opened. A draft which have almost every clause ending with "...will be determine by regulations that will be determine by the mpigs..." and u still think its a great draft?See how they are increasing they wages!!! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/8/2007 Posts: 885
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seems like the watermelons are coming out of the closets!! karibuni members...tuko wengi
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Posts: 176
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of course nothing has changed in the draft...but I think it is a blackmail tactic
Soon or later rthey will all resort to it...watch them in the next one month
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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Ati who and who? I dont even know the lot! do they really think they make much of a difference? They are just bunch of opportunists... they wait for the NO guys to do the donkey work and when it has been popular and they have realised they have no much attention from the yes camp, they claim change of mind..... I wonder how many votes they can mobilise to follow them including their backyard....well, even if NO was to win it wouldnt sway their votes to a significant majority win just because these dudes changed their minds - if there was a change at all, that is.
Ati kwanza a nominated MP and he makes news on "defection"? Its like a father strolling into a severe hunger-striken home with a gazette.............
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Water melon imeanguka ikapasuka, sasa twaona ndani yake.  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/30/2010 Posts: 241
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wat the big fuse abt mpigs defecting??????? si they have one voters card like any other kenyan?? and sooooo many credit cards!!! With mpigs its not abt the draft... its yes yes yes 90 million in 90 days. uhuru akakaaa ngumu ukiona choo kwa ndoto usiingie, ni mtego!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 1,491 Location: Nairobi
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what they really want is the fat paychecks nothing about defection useless kenyan Mpigs. Kenya ni yetu sisi sote
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/30/2009 Posts: 1,390
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Ni haki yao ya kidemokrasia ya kujiunga na upande uwapendezao zaidi. Wananchi wa kawaida wanabadilisha maoni yao kwa nini wabunge na viongozi wengine wasibadilishe? Hii katiba si kama hesabu ya 1+1,inakanganya wengi.Inawakanganya mawakili sembuse wabunge wasio na ujuzi maalum wa maswala ya kikatiba What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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Assuming the No wins this one, then we go to an election...one of these guys gets the executive presidency :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/23/2010 Posts: 153 Location: FU
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get ready for more....and the wheat will be separated from the chaff.
i defected because my bill was not taken up even when I knew it was impossible to change the timetable...Hey by the way I am really an MP. I have been there for the last 10 years. You don't know me?
I am sure this will lead to all Kenyans following them where the priests have failed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/9/2008 Posts: 2,824
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rasilio wrote:get ready for more....and the wheat will be separated from the chaff.
i defected because my bill was not taken up even when I knew it was impossible to change the timetable...Hey by the way I am really an MP. I have been there for the last 10 years. You don't know me?
I am sure this will lead to all Kenyans following them where the priests have failed. @rasilio....how does it feel being an mpig?? Do you know what an mipg is? ABK!! When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/30/2009 Posts: 1,390
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@kingfisher,I thot rasilio is an ordinary kenyan using sarcasm to drive his point home What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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I couldn't care less if the whole parliament supported the "NO" camp GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 326 Location: Nairobi
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@Wendz et al,
One man's meat is another's MP.
That Jamleck guy is my MP, and I am proud of him.
He is the first MP ever from that constituency to 'appear' in a newspaper!!
See the bigger picture - didn't you people hear there is no more money in Yes camp? What business would an Mpig do in such a camp? Hata kama ni wewe?
Besides the MP sideshows...Why am i thinking that NO shall win?
Personally I have not read the draft, just acquired a copy (hope its the right one) and now looking for a copy of the CURRENT constitution. I shall read both coming weekend and decide which way to go.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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wa P wrote:@Wendz et al,
One man's meat is another's MP.
That Jamleck guy is my MP, and I am proud of him.
He is the first MP ever from that constituency to 'appear' in a newspaper!!
See the bigger picture - didn't you people hear there is no more money in Yes camp? What business would an Mpig do in such a camp? Hata kama ni wewe?
Besides the MP sideshows...Why am i thinking that NO shall win?
Personally I have not read the draft, just acquired a copy (hope its the right one) and now looking for a copy of the CURRENT constitution. I shall read both coming weekend and decide which way to go.
Wa P Yes. I get the point..... Yes is broke and No just did a fundraising.... now, that makes sense! It is good you have decided to make a decision based on proper information and not the fatness of the kiondo.... An am here to help you. You should be able to get the current constitution on this website: http://www.kenyalaw.org/update/index.php
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/19/2008 Posts: 60
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Wendz wrote:wa P wrote:@Wendz et al,
One man's meat is another's MP.
That Jamleck guy is my MP, and I am proud of him.
He is the first MP ever from that constituency to 'appear' in a newspaper!!
See the bigger picture - didn't you people hear there is no more money in Yes camp? What business would an Mpig do in such a camp? Hata kama ni wewe?
Besides the MP sideshows...Why am i thinking that NO shall win?
Personally I have not read the draft, just acquired a copy (hope its the right one) and now looking for a copy of the CURRENT constitution. I shall read both coming weekend and decide which way to go.
Wa P Yes. I get the point..... Yes is broke and No just did a fundraising.... now, that makes sense! It is good you have decided to make a decision based on proper information and not the fatness of the kiondo.... An am here to help you. You should be able to get the current constitution on this website: http://www.kenyalaw.org/update/index.php
@ Wa P. I guess comparing the draft with the current should not help you decide how to vote. Why get an Xtrail to replace your Vitz when the person giving you the car can get you an X6. For the record the draft has good stuff that kenyans have faught for a long time but we can get a better document. It doesnt make any ecconomic sense to vote yes on 4th and amend later clauses that we already know about now. What the yes guys are telling me is, i agree to have an Xtrail then they modify it to an X6 there after  Tukatae turekebishe
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Kenyans have a very short memory. Beside the issues in the Draft for which I must salute Wazuans for their avid debate, the rest ni siasa mbaya.
Now talking of politics, the NO camp is anti reform to the core (even historically). What do we stand to gain from their selfish and retarded mentality? The Draft may not be perfect but is certainly better than the current constitution.
We risk losing focus of the bigger picture, perhaps we've listened to NO lies for so long that they now seem to be true. Recall the repressive Moi days, the corruption gangs of Jirongo, Ruto, et al? The cheating, careless and reckless voting rigging of Kibaki and Raila 2007?
Whether these melons burst or remain intact does not change the arithmetic substantially, they eat where their noses take them. BURE KABISA
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/19/2008 Posts: 60
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Rahatupu wrote:Kenyans have a very short memory. Beside the issues in the Draft for which I must salute Wazuans for their avid debate, the rest ni siasa mbaya.
Now talking of politics, the NO camp is anti reform to the core (even historically). What do we stand to gain from their selfish and retarded mentality? The Draft may not be perfect but is certainly better than the current constitution.
We risk losing focus of the bigger picture, perhaps we've listened to NO lies for so long that they now seem to be true. Recall the repressive Moi days, the corruption gangs of Jirongo, Ruto, et al? The cheating, careless and reckless voting rigging of Kibaki and Raila 2007?
Whether these melons burst or remain intact does not change the arithmetic substantially, they eat where their noses take them. BURE KABISA I find that text offensive, the fact that i am not in your camp doesn't make you any more of a reformist or grant you the absolute monopoly of the same.
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