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murchr
#681 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2020 4:17:41 PM
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wukan wrote:
Shak wrote:
murchr wrote:
Shak wrote:
Germany has recorded less than 500 deaths out of over 60,000 cases. They must be doing something right.



Early testing which is key in beginning treatment and isolation. Plus the testing companies are based there, Siemens and Draeger are German companies so they have the capacity advantage.

The US, then, should hang their heads in shame: a supposed super power with all the tools at its disposal but can't coordinate an adequate response to the pandemic unlike Germany and others.


US in many areas is much 3rd world. Their healthcare system is shambolic and expensive. They wasted trillion dollars on wars instead. Post pandemic US will become socialist and inward looking.



Especially governors, no one will want to be asked to be "appreciative" when people are dying left right center.

I don't think we have the full Louisiana story...its going to explode.
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Angelica _ann
#682 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2020 4:33:24 PM
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murchr wrote:
wukan wrote:
Shak wrote:
murchr wrote:
Shak wrote:
Germany has recorded less than 500 deaths out of over 60,000 cases. They must be doing something right.



Early testing which is key in beginning treatment and isolation. Plus the testing companies are based there, Siemens and Draeger are German companies so they have the capacity advantage.

The US, then, should hang their heads in shame: a supposed super power with all the tools at its disposal but can't coordinate an adequate response to the pandemic unlike Germany and others.


US in many areas is much 3rd world. Their healthcare system is shambolic and expensive. They wasted trillion dollars on wars instead. Post pandemic US will become socialist and inward looking.



Especially governors, no one will want to be asked to be "appreciative" when people are dying left right center.

I don't think we have the full Louisiana story...its going to explode.


I like the way guys in states left Trump to 'see with his own eyes' when he thought his ujinga is better than science.
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masukuma
#683 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2020 4:35:51 PM
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That hardcore capitalistic system of the US will not be left unshaken - medicare for all will be a huge thing during the next election. Remember Obama care? People wanted it out but it got to a point where if you wanted it out - it could cost you an election. I think Medicare for all will be the same.
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Shak
#684 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2020 5:56:43 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Masks, any type of mask will help slow down the virus as opined in this article
https://medium.com/@Cancerwarrior/covid-19-why-we-should-all-wear-masks-there-is-new-scientific-rationale-280e08ceee71

We should make use of Rivatez and Ngilu's textile factory.
murchr
#685 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2020 6:01:13 PM
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Fauci - the worst seasonal flu -2017/18 killed 60K people this is worse, we expect over 100K to die in the US alone.
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madollar
#686 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2020 6:24:53 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
tycho wrote:
Covid-19 is lethal due to non biological factors. It is lethal due to negligence on the part of most governments. Pandemics/epidemics are foreseeable security and health challenges, and lack of equipment or professionals need not to be the main contributor of fatalities.





madollar wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
https://youtu.be/kN08StvCWgU


"They" have never forgotten who was responsible for the holocaust and 911 memorials will be built. The one certainty repercussions will happen watching media outlets such as fox news tells you whats coming once they conquer the virus.

But how the do that against the chinise is another thread altogether


China is somehow responsible for the escalation of this situation for hiding very iportant information on the seriousness of this virus. Look at it thisway.. when you suspect you have this virus you are moraly supposed to self isolate. The same as any nation. China was the first nation to notice the grave characteristics of this virus and instead of warning other nations and self isolate itself by locking its borders air sea and land. They went ahead and tried to cover things. Now they are boasting of how they have defeated the virus and are now almost closing their borders for "fear" of this virus 're entering their teritory.
Deep down in the hearts of this western nations now view China as a pariah state.
This might be the beginning of the end of the mighty China.


Nobody helped China to be where they are.
Conversely this could be the time China finally takes over from US as global economic superpower


Shame on you Shame on you Ngumu everybody will be watching china
now knowing that they will probably lay low.
Its highly likely they are preparing for a blowback post corona

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson's government is said to be furious over China's handling of the novel coronavirus, with one British official quoted on Sunday saying Beijing would face a "reckoning" once the COVID-19 crisis was over.

The west will reassess it threats with china up there na hizi mchezo kim jong un anakuwaga nazo with nuclear warheads sidhani they will tolerate them anymore
Lolest!
#687 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2020 7:29:05 PM
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This part is not getting enough attention
Nation wrote:
Ministry of Health Director General Dr Patrick Amoth said their preliminary modelling data showed that coronavirus cases by mid-April will hit 5,000, and rise to 10,000 by end of April in the absence of drastic intervention.
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Lolest!
#688 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2020 7:43:38 PM
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MatataMingi wrote:
@Lolest, The link above does not work

try again here:

https://medium.com/@Cancerwarrior/covid-19-why-we-should-all-wear-masks-there-is-new-scientific-rationale-280e08ceee71

The @ in the link could be breaking it. Try copy pasting
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tycho
#689 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2020 7:54:43 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
This part is not getting enough attention
Nation wrote:
Ministry of Health Director General Dr Patrick Amoth said their preliminary modelling data showed that coronavirus cases by mid-April will hit 5,000, and rise to 10,000 by end of April in the absence of drastic intervention.


A model based on conditions stated above - absence of drastic intervention and SARS-Cov-2 being taken to have a Reproduction no. of 2 can be represented by a tree diagram. You can take a piece of paper or any suitable method and trace the spread of the virus.

Let's also assume that each person goes to four unique places on any day. Then that individual will spread to 2^3. We can then assume that after spreading to 2^3 people that individual is isolated and gives zero infection. Same for the next person, like that... How long would we need to get 5000 people infected?

Then compare that number to the span of days counted by the government official. Then please share the answer we see if the figures provided can tally with such a model...

This is a rather simple model because once you do 2^3 you get quarantined. A truly unabated case would be quite complex in terms of the spreader getting to new places and infecting everyday till the whole population is covered.

So please let's try the simple model and see if the figures we find will tally with the ones given.
limanika
#690 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2020 8:17:16 PM
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BCG- I hear comparison of data btw BCG vaccinating and non BCG vaccinating countries is generating a lot of interest?
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