Yes he tested positive 3 days ago and the memo to Premier Hospital staff 2 days ago.On 25th.He is part of Kagwes statistics not a new case.

The COVID 19 response team and MOH remain the only source of info.

[quote=tycho]@Alma has asked the following question:



You are talking to aemathenge.

Even now he believes this is just a movie. I'm not unaware that a lot of Kenyans think the same. Unfortunately, a gov't can't look at you committing suicide. It's actually a crime.

You are the one generalising people by calling them poor people who can't think.

I on the other hand believe that once the reality of what this thing can do hits home, every human being will protect themselves and it starts by isolating.

You are the one calling them so poor that they don't know that if they go out touching people, they might bring the disease to their homes and the gov't and NGO's in Mathare will not help them.

What I have seen today is people going home.

I have not seen the so called mass annoyance you are trying to proclaim here. There is no mass anything when you are dying. Even worse, when you are busy infecting other people.

aemathenge my fren. The people in Mwea will stay at home the moment one of them gets sick. Ask the people in Kilifi. You don't have to tell anyone in Kilifi to self quarantine, they are doing so.

I normally don't support gov't but this is the reason why gov'ts exist. To save the many from a few basically stupid people.

Stay home and encourage people to stay home. If you see your neighbour in economic distress, share with them. You are also welcome to ask gov't officials and mpigs you elected to help out when you see such cases. If you voted right, they will. If you voted wrong, well, choices.....

Telling them it's their right to make a living is akin to murder with a soft voice.

Stay home. You can catch up with your wife, husband and kids. You can go hustle at 6 am tomorrow.

So far there's no annoyance because it is fair to have a dusk to dawn curfew. I am in no rush to stockpile food or some drastic act. I hope that I will do a few things tomorrow. Many people you've seen going home, hope so.

A test you can take is to find out if there's an increase in robberies or theft. You are a stats guy you can check. But my hypothesis is that these crimes may have risen in the past one month.

BTW, alma, its not like I don't like staying indoors. Today I've gone out only once. Without public responsibility I can disappear from view for extended periods. Hibernation is my thing. And I know its limits well.

Some Mukuru people of course may not be conversant with reason. Just like some of us here may find reasoning tedious. (In effect a coalition of some here and Mukuruans can occur)

It is good to know that our government will not allow suicide. If this were the case then I could have some convincing evidence to this effect. As it is, bado. Serikali is doing below par. Even the Spanish and Italian governments care for their people. The miracle you hope we'll get didn't happen to them. No model country you've mentioned has had less than 30k infections and measures are tough there.

America will come to Kenya and hire each and every nurse. That's just a fact.

I know it's difficult for everyone. Especially small businesses. We have shut down our projects since the 6th of this month. Other companies longer. I am for the view, that it's better you take a bitter pill right now, than wait until sijui 6 months from now.

Wazua will have fewer users by then. Not because of dying, but their businesses will have been finished.

There must be ways we can mitigate against unrest. Fundraisers etc to cushion the lower classes

Everybody survives on small amounts of food. Hata kama ni ugali na beans pekee


We're in very tricky times. We need to be pragmatic. If developed countries' health systems are unable to cope with this pandemic, how shall we cope?

Equip our hospitals urgently, you say? We're like 20 years too late! If this thing was localised like Ebola, Haiti earthquake, Japan tsunami etc we would have hoped for help from international community.

But we are alone now. Everyone is inward looking and nationalistic. The only funds nations have are for their own.

Things are getting desperate

Alma, have you been tested yet, are these tests accessible? Don't recommend what can't and won't happen. Underreporting and false presentation may be the norm in this epidemic, but it can do us great damage.

I am telling you what needs to happen.

Find my first post on this thread. You shall see I said. Test and isolate.

If you are not being tested, that's not my fault. Expect what's going to happen next with absolute certainty.

Let me quote Itumbi, "systems ya facts"

Nothing else works. But if you find another witchdoctor treatment like Trump, tell me about it.

If the gov't isn't doing that, well, I didn't vote for them.

If I succumb to it, I'll do so knowing I said the truth. No biggie, Mukiri will support me in heaven.

Nothing else is working.

Lockdown, test and isolate.

You'll scare people for nothing when you say that the only thing that is working is a fantasy.

Lastly as much as you can tell people not to support this gov't remember that those guys in Mukuru depend on those midro crass people you keep on bringing about.

Small businesses in Kenya hire those mukuru people as you call them.

I can assure you, for 3 weeks, no one is paying invoices, no one is signing a contract, no one is even imagining getting a new project going.

Which means, people are going to be fired, have already been fired and are being fired.

The midro crass as you call them can't afford to pay rent or mortgages. For both their offices and even where their families live.

It is sexy to support the so called poor, but the economic truth in Kenya is that it survives with those subaru guys you don't seem to entertain as being human.

The subaru guys are telling you, forgo your "me, me" attitude for a moment.

Stay home. So we can all clear this hurdle faster.

But if you think that life will be great for you after, think again.

Small businesses support this economy, some nduthi guys are suggesting that life is all about them and corona is a rich man's disease.

That's not true.

Mkae nyumbani tafadhali.