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newfarer
#381 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2020 6:48:13 PM
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Matatus carrying full capacity ...just reporting what I am seen now..

Here are the directions Mr Kagwe said Kenyans need to adhere to:

14-seater matatus to have eight passengers at a time, 25-seaters to carry 15, Buses whose sitting capacity is 30 and above to have 60 percent sitting capacity. This rule applies to SGR and the commuter trains.

punda amecheka
newfarer
#382 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2020 7:46:32 PM
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So far so good. A president and minister in charge. Updating kenyans without being prompted.
punda amecheka
Bigchick
#383 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2020 8:47:31 PM
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newfarer wrote:
Matatus carrying full capacity ...just reporting what I am seen now..

Here are the directions Mr Kagwe said Kenyans need to adhere to:

14-seater matatus to have eight passengers at a time, 25-seaters to carry 15, Buses whose sitting capacity is 30 and above to have 60 percent sitting capacity. This rule applies to SGR and the commuter trains.




Effective date was said to be 23rd March
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kaka2za
#384 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2020 9:28:47 PM
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Kenya and Senegal not taking chances
Other African countries still more relaxed yet have more cases
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Wrong forever on the throne
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Bigchick
#385 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 1:38:58 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
Kenya and Senegal not taking chances
Other African countries still more relaxed yet have more cases



Oil!Italy.
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madollar
#386 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 3:07:18 AM
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Bigchick wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Kenya and Senegal not taking chances
Other African countries still more relaxed yet have more cases



Oil!Italy.

Seems like the lockdown is not working they are calling in the military to enforce it

https://www.cnn.com/2020...navirus-intl/index.html

And this is the predicament many countries will face when trying to use the lockdown strategy to contain the virus
it may have worked in china because its an authoritarian regime
wukan
#387 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 7:41:20 AM
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Quote:
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Cohesiveness, or the desire for cohesiveness, in a group may produce a tendency among its members to agree at all costs.[1] This causes the group to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation.

Groupthink requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking. The dysfunctional group dynamics of the "ingroup" produces an "illusion of invulnerability" (an inflated certainty that the right decision has been made). Thus the "ingroup" significantly overrates its own abilities in decision-making and significantly underrates the abilities of its opponents (the "outgroup"). Furthermore, groupthink can produce dehumanizing actions against the "outgroup". Members of a group can often feel peer pressure to "go along with the crowd" in fear of rocking the boat or of what them speaking up will do to the overall to how their teammates perceive them. Group interactions tend to favor, clear and harmonious agreements and it can be a cause for concern when little to no new innovations or arguments for better policies, outcomes and structures are called to question.
masukuma
#388 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 10:37:42 AM
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So what I have learned so far
1) coronaviruses are a family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases like MERS, SARS and COVID-19.
2) there are coronaviruses that have not 'jumped' species and are mainly still in bats. bats being bats are everywhere! they are the animals with the second largest number of species and live everywhere...including kenya where a study shows talks about the existence of Novel SARS-like and Other Coronaviruses in Bats living in Kenya.
4) While it takes a bit of bad luck to get an outbreak started - the next coronavirus outbreak can be from anywhere - Kenya's bats have 41 distinct coronaviruses so it's important to have this problem looked at in the long term.
5) a 1991 study in the journal of virology outlined how Chloroquine (amongst others) slowed down the growth of coronaviruses by raising the PH of the cells. apparently coronaviruses need acidic environments to bind to cell receptors.
6) ibuprofen has been in the news lately as one of the drugs to avoid if you are exhibiting C-19 symptoms. why? it helps them multiply. it also has a low PH.

Conclusion - anything that raises the PH of the body may be effective in stopping the reproduction of coronaviruses in human cells. this is not to mean that eating alkaline foods will translate to raising the PH of your tissues (as digestion may just neutralize it). Perhaps pharmacists and biochemists can tell us what other drugs lower the PH of blood and cell tissues.
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Bigchick
#389 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 3:36:44 PM
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masukuma wrote:
So what I have learned so far
1) coronaviruses are a family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases like MERS, SARS and COVID-19.
2) there are coronaviruses that have not 'jumped' species and are mainly still in bats. bats being bats are everywhere! they are the animals with the second largest number of species and live everywhere...including kenya where a study shows talks about the existence of Novel SARS-like and Other Coronaviruses in Bats living in Kenya.
4) While it takes a bit of bad luck to get an outbreak started - the next coronavirus outbreak can be from anywhere - Kenya's bats have 41 distinct coronaviruses so it's important to have this problem looked at in the long term.
5) a 1991 study in the journal of virology outlined how Chloroquine (amongst others) slowed down the growth of coronaviruses by raising the PH of the cells. apparently coronaviruses need acidic environments to bind to cell receptors.
6) ibuprofen has been in the news lately as one of the drugs to avoid if you are exhibiting C-19 symptoms. why? it helps them multiply. it also has a low PH.

Conclusion - anything that raises the PH of the body may be effective in stopping the reproduction of coronaviruses in human cells. this is not to mean that eating alkaline foods will translate to raising the PH of your tissues (as digestion may just neutralize it). Perhaps pharmacists and biochemists can tell us what other drugs lower the PH of blood and cell tissues.


Quite educative.

Keeping hope alive.

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tycho
#390 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 6:23:58 PM
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So, there may be many who will get infected and not really notice. It's said that in China, there is the possibility of having for every one confirmed case, five or more unreported cases.

Like for me, I don't even know whether what I have is this CVD - I normally have similar symptoms when there's a change of weather. I have coughed, I feel slightly feverish, a bit tired - I can hardly read a serious paragraph for example. And I am still working, exercising ...

I don't wear a mask, and I try not to cough in public. I tried sneezing on my elbow and discovered that some droplets escaped below and above the elbow. So, I have commanded my mind to deal with such matters at home - where I can't self isolate. And as you may suspect, I must go out, to work.

The only source of hope is my mother. I go to her after all, and bathe in her light. I let the light pass through me, and seal my gates with her names. For headache, I may take the holy herb - to clear my head and placate my lungs.

And then with a hot belly and skin, I lie back and ask: is this it, or not? Am I through with it, or is it still coming?
tycho
#391 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 7:18:40 PM
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If this is happening in New York, sembuse Kenya?

[quote][Gorovitz told the Journal that doctors will be required to make “tragic” decisions on “who will have access or for patients whose prospects are essentially hopeless, will be have to be removed to make room for somebody whose prospects are very much better”.quote]

I can't imagine myself trusting the experts for such a decision. I'd rather make the decision in my own way.
murchr
#392 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 9:51:54 PM
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masukuma wrote:
So what I have learned so far
1) coronaviruses are a family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases like MERS, SARS and COVID-19.
2) there are coronaviruses that have not 'jumped' species and are mainly still in bats. bats being bats are everywhere! they are the animals with the second largest number of species and live everywhere...including kenya where a study shows talks about the existence of Novel SARS-like and Other Coronaviruses in Bats living in Kenya.
4) While it takes a bit of bad luck to get an outbreak started - the next coronavirus outbreak can be from anywhere - Kenya's bats have 41 distinct coronaviruses so it's important to have this problem looked at in the long term.
5) a 1991 study in the journal of virology outlined how Chloroquine (amongst others) slowed down the growth of coronaviruses by raising the PH of the cells. apparently coronaviruses need acidic environments to bind to cell receptors.
6) ibuprofen has been in the news lately as one of the drugs to avoid if you are exhibiting C-19 symptoms. why? it helps them multiply. it also has a low PH.

Conclusion - anything that raises the PH of the body may be effective in stopping the reproduction of coronaviruses in human cells. this is not to mean that eating alkaline foods will translate to raising the PH of your tissues (as digestion may just neutralize it). Perhaps pharmacists and biochemists can tell us what other drugs lower the PH of blood and cell tissues.



If there's a 1991 study why is Faucci not enthusiastic about Chloroquin?

Why did MERS "disappear"?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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aemathenge
#393 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 9:57:44 PM
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tycho wrote:
For headache, I may take the holy herb - to clear my head and placate my lungs.


Ati What?

I knew it.
masukuma
#394 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 10:55:42 PM
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murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
So what I have learned so far
1) coronaviruses are a family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases like MERS, SARS and COVID-19.
2) there are coronaviruses that have not 'jumped' species and are mainly still in bats. bats being bats are everywhere! they are the animals with the second largest number of species and live everywhere...including kenya where a study shows talks about the existence of Novel SARS-like and Other Coronaviruses in Bats living in Kenya.
4) While it takes a bit of bad luck to get an outbreak started - the next coronavirus outbreak can be from anywhere - Kenya's bats have 41 distinct coronaviruses so it's important to have this problem looked at in the long term.
5) a 1991 study in the journal of virology outlined how Chloroquine (amongst others) slowed down the growth of coronaviruses by raising the PH of the cells. apparently coronaviruses need acidic environments to bind to cell receptors.
6) ibuprofen has been in the news lately as one of the drugs to avoid if you are exhibiting C-19 symptoms. why? it helps them multiply. it also has a low PH.

Conclusion - anything that raises the PH of the body may be effective in stopping the reproduction of coronaviruses in human cells. this is not to mean that eating alkaline foods will translate to raising the PH of your tissues (as digestion may just neutralize it). Perhaps pharmacists and biochemists can tell us what other drugs lower the PH of blood and cell tissues.



If there's a 1991 study why is Faucci not enthusiastic about Chloroquin?

Why did MERS "disappear"?



Well Faucci is a scientist - he has to test it, collect data and the check if there is no adverse effects in patients with coronavirus. He is a man of the scientific process... not feelings or reading it on the internet. He is doing it in a way he can account for. As soon as there are no adverse effects - it's likely that he will proceed.
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sqft
#395 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 10:57:14 PM
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Total lockdown in Rwanda.


Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
sqft
#396 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 11:07:40 PM
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Italy has reported 793 deaths today. Ni kubaya.
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
sqft
#397 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 11:18:27 PM
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Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
alma1
#398 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2020 12:05:19 AM
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masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
So what I have learned so far
1) coronaviruses are a family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases like MERS, SARS and COVID-19.
2) there are coronaviruses that have not 'jumped' species and are mainly still in bats. bats being bats are everywhere! they are the animals with the second largest number of species and live everywhere...including kenya where a study shows talks about the existence of Novel SARS-like and Other Coronaviruses in Bats living in Kenya.
4) While it takes a bit of bad luck to get an outbreak started - the next coronavirus outbreak can be from anywhere - Kenya's bats have 41 distinct coronaviruses so it's important to have this problem looked at in the long term.
5) a 1991 study in the journal of virology outlined how Chloroquine (amongst others) slowed down the growth of coronaviruses by raising the PH of the cells. apparently coronaviruses need acidic environments to bind to cell receptors.
6) ibuprofen has been in the news lately as one of the drugs to avoid if you are exhibiting C-19 symptoms. why? it helps them multiply. it also has a low PH.

Conclusion - anything that raises the PH of the body may be effective in stopping the reproduction of coronaviruses in human cells. this is not to mean that eating alkaline foods will translate to raising the PH of your tissues (as digestion may just neutralize it). Perhaps pharmacists and biochemists can tell us what other drugs lower the PH of blood and cell tissues.



If there's a 1991 study why is Faucci not enthusiastic about Chloroquin?

Why did MERS "disappear"?



Well Faucci is a scientist - he has to test it, collect data and the check if there is no adverse effects in patients with coronavirus. He is a man of the scientific process... not feelings or reading it on the internet. He is doing it in a way he can account for. As soon as there are no adverse effects - it's likely that he will proceed.


Please guys, you know drumpf is a snake oil salesman. He'll say anything to make himself chief medical doctor in a loony bin.

Quote:
Chloroquine was among the first group of therapies Chinese scientists identified as being effective in curbing the new coronavirus. Clinical trials on about 130 patients demonstrated the drug’s ability to reduce the severity of the illness and speed up virus clearance, according to China’s Ministry of Sciences and Technology.

Chroloquine phosphate was officially recommended on Feb. 19 in the Covid-19 treatment guidelines published by China’s National Health Commission


Part 2

Quote:
China’s recommendation to use chloroquine in treatment was quickly followed by a warning.

Two days after the treatment guideline update, health authorities in Hubei province -- China’s worst-hit region where the outbreak started and which accounted for majority of its over 80,000 patients -- asked hospitals to closely watch for, and immediately report, any adverse side effects of chloroquine phosphate


Quote:
A woman in Wuhan proved how lethal chloroquine can be when it’s taken beyond the recommended dose. On Feb. 25, Shanghai-based The Paper reported that she took 1.8 grams of the drug she ordered online after suspecting she had the coronavirus. She did not, but the drug caused her to develop malignant cardiac arrhythmic, which can cause sudden death, and she was admitted to the intensive care unit.


As his guy for coronavirus said in his face. That he may be wrong or right. Let the science prove it.

Reports from Nigeria tell of people having severe reactions after they ran to buy chloroquin because Trump said so. In Kenya, we should be wiser. There's a reason why we have reduced it's use even for malaria.

This idea of witch doctors running countries should be highly discouraged.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

tom_boy
#399 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2020 9:28:50 AM
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You have unnecessary bile for Trump. Trump is a great leader. Does what he says. No time for pussy footing and useless political correctness. I wish we had him as a leader.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
alma1
#400 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2020 9:51:37 AM
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tom_boy wrote:
You have unnecessary bile for Trump. Trump is a great leader. Does what he says. No time for pussy footing and useless political correctness. I wish we had him as a leader.


Luckily, your wishes mean have absolutely ZERO value to the rest of mankind.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

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