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Madness at the NSE
wukan
#2121 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 12:54:26 PM
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Once WHO declared pandemic your medical cover became useless for corona treatment. You are better off holding onto cash if you or loved one has to seek emergency treatment.



Receptor
#2122 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 1:40:34 PM
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There is no time in my lifetime where the phrase "CASH IS KING" has made more sense than now. I now understand why Warren Buffet keeps loads of cash in his portfolio.
ARAPCHARLEE
#2123 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 2:34:46 PM
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ONE SINGLE CASE OF Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) IS Causing a massive nose dive at nse.. what about days ahead.. God HELP US!
Gadaffi
#2124 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 2:43:25 PM
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Market put on hold...not looking good.
tandich
#2125 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 2:52:43 PM
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Exchange Announcements

MARKET HALT:
We have halted the market in accordance with Rule 9.4.1 (ii) of the NSE Equity Trading Rules. Trading will resume on Monday. 14:49:02
Superprime1
#2126 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 6:40:19 PM
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Investors in the NSE have lost approx. half a trillion shillings (Sh500bn), or 19.7% of total market capitalisation (now at Sh2.04 trillion), since the year begun. Effectively, the NSE All-Share Index (NASI) has dipped to 133.66 points as at Mar 13, 2020, from 166.41 points on Dec 31, 2019.d'oh! Sad Pray
deadpoet
#2127 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 7:11:58 PM
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Superprime1 wrote:
Investors in the NSE have lost approx. half a trillion shillings (Sh500bn), or 19.7% of total market capitalisation (now at Sh2.04 trillion), since the year begun. Effectively, the NSE All-Share Index (NASI) has dipped to 133.66 points as at Mar 13, 2020, from 166.41 points on Dec 31, 2019.d'oh! Sad Pray


Can confirm my portfolio has taken a beating.
xtina
#2128 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 7:27:35 PM
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deadpoet wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Investors in the NSE have lost approx. half a trillion shillings (Sh500bn), or 19.7% of total market capitalisation (now at Sh2.04 trillion), since the year begun. Effectively, the NSE All-Share Index (NASI) has dipped to 133.66 points as at Mar 13, 2020, from 166.41 points on Dec 31, 2019.d'oh! Sad Pray


Can confirm my portfolio has taken a beating.


But look on the bright side, an opportunity to buy more....
muandiwambeu
#2129 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 8:07:27 PM
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xtina wrote:
deadpoet wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Investors in the NSE have lost approx. half a trillion shillings (Sh500bn), or 19.7% of total market capitalisation (now at Sh2.04 trillion), since the year begun. Effectively, the NSE All-Share Index (NASI) has dipped to 133.66 points as at Mar 13, 2020, from 166.41 points on Dec 31, 2019.d'oh! Sad Pray


Can confirm my portfolio has taken a beating.


But look on the bright side, an opportunity to buy more ....

Why would this covid 19 nist be a sampler/ innocurator. Say aftermath may or Will be deadly.a do disater.
Buy more murubaines I guess is a better bet than cash us king of shenaniganism.
I got flue like symptoms and am keeping in house till kingdom o kam
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
sparkly
#2130 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2020 9:29:25 PM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
xtina wrote:
deadpoet wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Investors in the NSE have lost approx. half a trillion shillings (Sh500bn), or 19.7% of total market capitalisation (now at Sh2.04 trillion), since the year begun. Effectively, the NSE All-Share Index (NASI) has dipped to 133.66 points as at Mar 13, 2020, from 166.41 points on Dec 31, 2019.d'oh! Sad Pray


Can confirm my portfolio has taken a beating.


But look on the bright side, an opportunity to buy more ....

Why would this covid 19 nist be a sampler/ innocurator. Say aftermath may or Will be deadly.a do disater.
Buy more murubaines I guess is a better bet than cash us king of shenaniganism.
I got flue like symptoms and am keeping in house till kingdom o kam


Are you high on sanitiser d'oh! d'oh!
Life is short. Live passionately.
sparkly
#2131 Posted : Saturday, March 14, 2020 8:48:33 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
wukan wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
How long can this correction last? iam thinking hard.

“The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.” - John Maynard Keynes

I had the money last week, if I had the courage to buy Kcb at 43 i would be smiling now selling at 50,fear is poverty.



Stocks are like buses. There is always one at the stage.


Stupid Corona made me sell one of my gems, now recovery, shindwe. You cant time the market just play it Pray Pray Pray


corona is not stupid and the coming deflationary shock will make GFC feel like a picnic. The day your boss announces unpaid leave you'll know corona is not stupid. Risk must be priced in correctly

True

The first case here will cause a lot of panic if it happens


13.03.2020 @mlennyma got his wish.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Aguytrying
#2132 Posted : Saturday, March 14, 2020 2:02:18 PM
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Could safaricom be coming back to the stage I didn't board 3 years ago. 15 and I'm in
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
sparkly
#2133 Posted : Sunday, March 15, 2020 9:17:50 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Could safaricom be coming back to the stage I didn't board 3 years ago. 15 and I'm in


NSE activated the circuit breakers. Journey to 15 postponed for the time being.
Life is short. Live passionately.
winmak
#2134 Posted : Sunday, March 15, 2020 6:36:24 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Could safaricom be coming back to the stage I didn't board 3 years ago. 15 and I'm in


NSE activated the circuit breakers. Journey to 15 postponed for the time being.


Very likely to happen now that we have 3 cases and all schools closed officially
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
mlennyma
#2135 Posted : Sunday, March 15, 2020 7:06:16 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Could safaricom be coming back to the stage I didn't board 3 years ago. 15 and I'm in

I will buy without fear from 15 downwards if corona doesn't go with me, this company will hugely benefit from corona, mobile cash will hit record highs
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#2136 Posted : Sunday, March 15, 2020 9:25:24 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Could safaricom be coming back to the stage I didn't board 3 years ago. 15 and I'm in

I will buy without fear from 15 downwards if corona doesn't go with me, this company will hugely benefit from corona, mobile cash will hit record highs
As will the amount of data and phone calls.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
cyruskulei
#2137 Posted : Sunday, March 15, 2020 11:32:26 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Could safaricom be coming back to the stage I didn't board 3 years ago. 15 and I'm in

I will buy without fear from 15 downwards if corona doesn't go with me, this company will hugely benefit from corona, mobile cash will hit record highs
As will the amount of data and phone calls.



I actually predict safcom will land below 10bob.
Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

lochaz-index
#2138 Posted : Monday, March 16, 2020 1:56:15 AM
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Dow futures dump 1000 points as does the Nikkei. Dax futures down 500 points. It should be a particularly red day for the MIB when the European session kicks off. Will Schengen hold? The agreement may not see light of day when this crisis is over. Fed cuts FFR by 100bps points ahead of schedule in an attempt to stem the bleeding. Not looking good as spreads widen for treasuries and cross currency swaps. Full blown dollar liquidity crisis.

CBs have shown up with a knife to a gunfight...tough luck.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
slick
#2139 Posted : Monday, March 16, 2020 2:36:37 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
Dow futures dump 1000 points as does the Nikkei. Dax futures down 500 points. It should be a particularly red day for the MIB when the European session kicks off. Will Schengen hold? The agreement may not see light of day when this crisis is over. Fed cuts FFR by 100bps points ahead of schedule in an attempt to stem the bleeding. Not looking good as spreads widen for treasuries and cross currency swaps. Full blown dollar liquidity crisis.

CBs have shown up with a knife to a gunfight...tough luck.


These first world CBs may print themselves into hyperinflation if this keeps up.The sheer number of the money printing liquidity jobs just keep getting bigger to unprecedented levels.I expect this QE to be stepped up aggressively and repo jobs to still continue in their trillions.

I forsee the Fed getting a mandate by Congress to just outright buy stocks and corporate bonds.Its already under discussion behind the scenes.Japanese and Swiss central banks already doing it and I suspect the Fed will join this ludicrous policy and European Central Bank already buys corporate bonds and may join the rest in purchasing Euro stocks.
Contrarian Investor and Trader.Advocate of free markets,limited government interference in the economy and sound money
lochaz-index
#2140 Posted : Monday, March 16, 2020 5:33:05 AM
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slick wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Dow futures dump 1000 points as does the Nikkei. Dax futures down 500 points. It should be a particularly red day for the MIB when the European session kicks off. Will Schengen hold? The agreement may not see light of day when this crisis is over. Fed cuts FFR by 100bps points ahead of schedule in an attempt to stem the bleeding. Not looking good as spreads widen for treasuries and cross currency swaps. Full blown dollar liquidity crisis.

CBs have shown up with a knife to a gunfight...tough luck.


These first world CBs may print themselves into hyperinflation if this keeps up.The sheer number of the money printing liquidity jobs just keep getting bigger to unprecedented levels.I expect this QE to be stepped up aggressively and repo jobs to still continue in their trillions.

I forsee the Fed getting a mandate by Congress to just outright buy stocks and corporate bonds.Its already under discussion behind the scenes.Japanese and Swiss central banks already doing it and I suspect the Fed will join this ludicrous policy and European Central Bank already buys corporate bonds and may join the rest in purchasing Euro stocks.

CBs are chasing the wind here. Buying of stocks is neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things. You can't manufacture a bull market out of thin air or much less so an economic recovery. BoJ has been at it for 20 years with various QE programs yet the Nikkei is more than 50% off its highs. The Japanese economy has been in comatose/collapsing and is literally way worse off than when QE started. The cycle must run to its completion as the market always wins in the end.

The real crisis is what occurs on main street in the form of job layoffs, bankruptcies, deleveraging, credit seize ups etc. Yellen once had the audacity to proclaim that we would never see another recession in our lifetimes. It is simply jaw dropping how much they believed the Keynesian (abenomics) hype about stimulating the economy.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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