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slick
#21 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2020 1:35:10 PM
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Futures on the S&P 500 were halted Sunday night after they declined 5%. So-called circuit-breaker levels are the thresholds at which exchanges halt or close marketwide trading due to extreme declines.No pre-market trading until market opens on Monday at 9.30 am US Eastern Standard time




And as I stated in my earlier post the corporate bond market has frozen up also





And of course oil suffered its biggest single day drop (30% decline) in history and US 10 year bond records its lowest yield in history.

History is being made folks.
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Ericsson
#22 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2020 3:49:05 PM
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#23 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2020 4:03:00 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
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Circuit breakers via CNBC


Could get messy in today's trading triggering the circuit breakers then again the Fed has increased its repo liquidity injections from 100 billion to 150 billion a day for overnight repos and from 20 billion to 45 billion for 2 week repo.Maybe this liquidity influx that was just done before markets open may stem the carnage but lets wait and see.

It will be a SUPER INTERESTING day and possibly very choppy.
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slick
#24 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2020 4:31:54 PM
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US STOCK MARKET HALTED FOR 15 MINUTES.FIRST CIRCUIT BREAKER HIT ONCE S&P 500 went down below 208 points.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

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#25 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2020 4:38:19 PM
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Corona virus plus the Russian vs Saudi oil fight. We are officially in a world recession.
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slick
#26 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2020 4:41:11 PM
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murchr wrote:
Corona virus plus the Russian vs Saudi oil fight. We are officially in a world recession.


The first world asset markets of stocks,bonds and real estate were already grossly overvalued with all time high bubbles and they needed to deflate.
Since 2008,central banks have been pumping trillions of liquidity to prevent the bubble from popping but it seems Corona Virus is finally the pin that pops the bubble and no amount of central bank money printing can stop this
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slick
#27 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:44:32 AM
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Wow a bloodbath in the Oil Market.Friday Western Texas Intermediate closed at around 41 USD per barrel and opened Monday at 30 USD and some point was down to 27 USD.The rout in oil also has tanked almost all asset classes with stocks in East Asia closing down about 5% and US Dow futures down over 1,200 points.US 10 year yield dropping to all time low of 0.34%.Cryptos also whacked

Crazy geo-politics.Russia walked out on an OPEC-Russia meeting that was to agree to cut production to prop up prices in light of reduced oil demand due to coronavirus.Moscow wants to keep pumping to push prices lower and punish the US shale oil frackers in retaliation to US sanctions on Russia.The Saudis angry that Putin refused to cut production,now wants to flood the oil market with even more oil to punish Russia and the Saudis also want to punish the US oil frackers.

The US shale oil frackers are in trouble.They need high oil prices to stay afloat and this dip in prices is causing serious distress.Moreover,these frackers are in business only because they can finance operations via borrowing through the US junk bond market where the bond rates are artificially suppressed by the Fed money printing shenanigans.The US junk bond market (where also Tesla gets lots of its financing) has been in distress for a number of months now.In fact recently in the last few days the junk bond market froze up with no new bond issuance.Same happened in late 2018 where the junk bond market froze for 41 days (also US stocks dropped 20% then)forcing the Fed to halt its rate hike and Quantitative Tightening cycle and reverse to Quantitative Easing and rate cuts.It gets worse that even some Investment Grade Triple BBB bonds have now frozen up also with no new bond issuance in over 1 week.The seizing up of the over 10 trillion US corporate bond market is a far greater threat to the US economy than falling stocks and the Fed is actually reacting to the distress in this sector.

The US corporate bond market is just as ridiculously leveraged as the sub-prime madness of the early 2000s.Cheap loans (called leveraged loans) to undeserving companies has resulted in zombie companies that just stay alive due to constant refinancing in the junk bond market and are similar to the sub-prime loans of the housing bubble.Then the corporate bonds from these leveraged loans are just as ridiculous as the Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) of the housing meltdown.Furthermore,the derivative products called Collateralized Loan Obligations (CLOs) for these corporate bonds are just as leveraged as the Collateralized Debt Oligations (CDOs) of the housing bubble that collapsed spectacularly in 2008.

Again just like in the housing bubble,these corporate bonds are being deliberately misrated by the rating agencies Standard & Poor's (S&P), Moody's, and Fitch Group.During the housing bubble,these rating agencies over rated the MBS and CDOs giving them triple AAA rating because the banks were paying them to mis rate them so that they can sell to naive funds.Same thing happening now.35% of the Investment Grade BBB rated US corporate bond market is junk and should be downgraded to junk bond status but the rating agencies are refusing to do so.In the United States,large funds like pension and mutual funds are barred by law from buying junk bonds thus if the Triple BBB bonds are correctly downgraded to junk then these major funds would be forced to liquidate their positions and will be Armageddon in the US corporate bond market.

With all the drama going on the Fed is under IMMENSE pressure again to cut rates yet again.They already did 50 basis points last week and there is pressure they do another 50 basis or even 75 basis points in their next March 17-18 meeting or even earlier.I dont see how the Fed can withstand the pressure and most probably will cut again this month.

Things just getting thicker by the day and global recession far worse than 2008 screaming loudly.

Futures on the S&P 500 were halted Sunday night after they declined 5%. So-called circuit-breaker levels are the thresholds at which exchanges halt or close marketwide trading due to extreme declines.No pre-market trading until market opens on Monday at 9.30 am US Eastern Standard time




And as I stated below the corporate bond market has frozen up also





And of course oil suffered its biggest single day drop (30% decline) in history and US 10 year bond records its lowest yield in history.

History is being made folks.



Yet another day of crazy records.The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 2013.76 points on Monday, its biggest drop ever in terms of points. Its 7.79% percentage decline was the biggest since Oct. 15, 2008. This comes on the heels of the previous largest point loss of 1,190 points on Feb. 27.US 10 year yield of 0.318% and a 30% drop in oil (the largest since the 1991 Gulf War).

As indicated earlier US shale oil in deep trouble.On average US shale needs oil at 73 USD/barrel to break even and with prices in the 30s,they are just eating losses.In fact they only survive as they can borrow from the US junk bond market at cheap rates thanks to Fed suppressing interest rates via money printing.As indicated earlier,the US junk bond market and part of the Investment Grade BBB rated bonds have frozen up thus US shale oil frackers cannot issue new debt to finance their loss making operations.

If this persists,the entire overleveraged US corporate debt market will blow up in much worse fashion than the sub-prime meltdown of 2008.

A good video explaining the interplay of coronavirus,oil shock and the overleveraged bubble US corporate debt market explained

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slick
#28 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2020 1:27:42 PM
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It will make for another interesting trading session today.Is it a false breakout or buy the dip to a sustainable rally?Trump is desperate to keep the stock market up otherwise he loses the November election😂😜

Dow futures point to opening bounce of 1,100 points after Trump floats payroll tax cut
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#29 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2020 7:27:39 PM
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slick
#30 Posted : Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:24:40 PM
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FASTEST 20% DROP IN THE DOW IN HISTORY



Now market demands Fed to cut rates by a whooping 75 basis points next week and if they do,rates will be at 25 to 50 basis points.Fed currently doing the fastest rate of liquidity injection in history via the repo market.There is now some discussion that Fed just goes ahead and directly buys stocks and corporate bonds in a US corporate bond market thats freezing up

Bank of England cut rates by 50 basis points to reach a measly 25 basis points

European Central Bank expected to cut rates even more negative tomorrow.its currently at minus 0.5% which is ridiculous but will cut more and inject even more liquidity bigger than they have ever done and buy more government and corporate bonds

Peoples Bank of China also doing repo liquidity injections like crazy

Bank of Japan is actively buying stocks via purchasing ETFs.

And it seems to be getting much worse hell but a short sellers heaven

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Ericsson
#31 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 1:55:15 AM
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slick wrote:
FASTEST 20% DROP IN THE DOW IN HISTORY



Now market demands Fed to cut rates by a whooping 75 basis points next week and if they do,rates will be at 25 to 50 basis points.Fed currently doing the fastest rate of liquidity injection in history via the repo market.There is now some discussion that Fed just goes ahead and directly buys stocks and corporate bonds in a US corporate bond market thats freezing up

Bank of England cut rates by 50 basis points to reach a measly 25 basis points

European Central Bank expected to cut rates even more negative tomorrow.its currently at minus 0.5% which is ridiculous but will cut more and inject even more liquidity bigger than they have ever done and buy more government and corporate bonds

Peoples Bank of China also doing repo liquidity injections like crazy

Bank of Japan is actively buying stocks via purchasing ETFs.

And it seems to be getting much worse hell but a short sellers heaven


The Central banks should not intervene in the markets.
The markets will self correct themselves.
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slick
#32 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 6:38:39 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
FASTEST 20% DROP IN THE DOW IN HISTORY



Now market demands Fed to cut rates by a whooping 75 basis points next week and if they do,rates will be at 25 to 50 basis points.Fed currently doing the fastest rate of liquidity injection in history via the repo market.There is now some discussion that Fed just goes ahead and directly buys stocks and corporate bonds in a US corporate bond market thats freezing up

Bank of England cut rates by 50 basis points to reach a measly 25 basis points

European Central Bank expected to cut rates even more negative tomorrow.its currently at minus 0.5% which is ridiculous but will cut more and inject even more liquidity bigger than they have ever done and buy more government and corporate bonds

Peoples Bank of China also doing repo liquidity injections like crazy

Bank of Japan is actively buying stocks via purchasing ETFs.

And it seems to be getting much worse hell but a short sellers heaven


The Central banks should not intervene in the markets.
The markets will self correct themselves.


@Ericsson.Yes,ideally in free markets central banks shouldn't intervene but central banks have been intervening perpetually in markets making problems far worse.These market bailouts and liquidity injections make problems far worse as any liquidity injection just creates more debt.If you research the current fiat debt based fractional reserve banking monetary system,all money is created from debt.If you think banks make loans from customer deposits then you are clearly duped.The banks create money from nothing and loan out at interest expands the money supply to ridiculous levels.No fiat debt based system has ever survived and all fiat currencies collapse to zero value.100% guarantee perfect record of fiat collapse throughout history.From Ancient Greece,Roman Empire,Chinese dynasties,1770s USA to Weinmar Germany,Zimbabwe,Venezuela all fiat currencies implode.Its highly possible the current Western style fiat system will unravel in similar fashion.

All boom and burst cycles are caused by central banks.The 1929 crash,the dotcom burst,the 2008 real estate crash and all other US recessions were all caused by the Fed.Central banks will intervene and print vast money to save the system and inevitably wont work and may cause hyperinflation.

Central banks cant just keep creating money from nothing to bailout failing institutions.These firms should be allowed to fail and clean out the excesses.16% of firms in the S&P 500 are zombie companies kept alive by Fed cheap money and should be allowed to collapse.The entire US shale oil industry should just be allowed to fail as their business model is unsustainable as their oil production costs are higher then oil prices.In 2008,all the Wall Street Banks should have allowed to fail even JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs as they duped investors with subprime loans and bogus Mortgage Backed Securities and Collateralized Debt Obligation (CDO) derivatives.It was a criminal act that these banks did during the housing bubble and should have been allowed to collapse but were bailed out and are now engaged in even more criminal excess in the corporate bond market.They should all fail then system starts afresh with more honest institutions.The collapse will be painful but its like a drug addict should suffer a painful weaning off drugs for longer term gain but central banks just keep pumping more monetary heroin.Inevitably the financial drug addict will overdose and it seems the financial system has reached that inflection point
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#33 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 6:46:00 AM
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Slick,
You are acting like you are surprised all these things are happeningsmile .
They were long in the making, carefully put together over a very long period.
I knew the fix was in after the 2007/8 crisis with the ratings cookings. Then almost collapsed in shock when the Fed introduced bizarre new terms that flew in the face of basic economics such as "stress testing" of banks and "stimulus spending" Laughing out loudly .The fix has long been in. My guess is they want to implode the global economy over the next decade, maybe more, introduce radical new laws that curtail civil liberties, then give the UN real teeth.
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slick
#34 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 6:55:52 AM
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amorphous wrote:
Slick,
You are acting like you are surprised all these things are happeningsmile .
They were long in the making, carefully put together over a very long period.
I knew the fix was in after the 2007/8 crisis with the ratings cookings. Then almost collapsed in shock when the Fed introduced bizarre new terms that flew in the face of basic economics such as "stress testing" of banks and "stimulus spending" Laughing out loudly .The fix has long been in. My guess is they want to implode the global economy over the next decade, maybe more, introduce radical new laws that curtail civil liberties, then give the UN real teeth.


@amorphous.

Who said I am surprised.I have been knowing these things were happening for years and no surprise thats events are unravelling now.
Its long overdue for the great unwind to happen.I thought it would happen in 2010-2012 European sovereign debt crisis and 2016 Industrial
Recession but central banks printed themselves out of those prior crisis.Cant print themselves out of coronavirus.Problem isnt the virus.Virus is simply|
the pin that is popping the ludicrous bubbles that have been building up for decades and especially after the 2008 crisis
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#35 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 7:05:54 AM
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Even corona is a fix. A mere 10000 or less die from flu like symptoms (influenza kills 100's odf thousands in the US alone each year but no scaremongering there!) and all of a sudden entire nations are on lock down Laughing out loudly . I suspect the UN will be given teeth regarding "pandemic control" when all the dust settles. Then "financial control" once the global economy is imploded in due course. The Hegelian dialectic is the oldest trick in the book..surprised the masses fall for these schemes every single time Laughing out loudly
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slick
#36 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 7:17:11 AM
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amorphous wrote:
Even corona is a fix. A mere 10000 or less die from flu like symptoms (influenza kills 100's odf thousands in the US alone each year but no scaremongering there!) and all of a sudden entire nations are on lock down Laughing out loudly . I suspect the UN will be given teeth regarding "pandemic control" when all the dust settles. Then "financial control" once the global economy is imploded in due course. The Hegelian dialectic is the oldest trick in the book..surprised the masses fall for these schemes every single time Laughing out loudly


I think coronavirus is a different piece of cake altogether.It has a case mortality rate of 3% while flu is 0.1% and far higher R nought ie transimissibility than the flu.If covid-19 infects millions over the next few months as some scientists even think if could infect 70% of the global population then it could potentially kill millions.

Regardless of whether Covid-19 causes the global recession or not,a recession was inevitable.The world has lasted 12 years without a recession (the longest
lasting expansion in modern history) and recession was overdue and we were living on borrowed time.Central banks have been delaying the recession by injecting liquidity in every slight downturn in markets and inevitably a black swan would have appeared that central bank money printing couldnt mitigate against
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#37 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 10:21:36 AM
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slick wrote:
amorphous wrote:
Even corona is a fix. A mere 10000 or less die from flu like symptoms (influenza kills 100's odf thousands in the US alone each year but no scaremongering there!) and all of a sudden entire nations are on lock down Laughing out loudly . I suspect the UN will be given teeth regarding "pandemic control" when all the dust settles. Then "financial control" once the global economy is imploded in due course. The Hegelian dialectic is the oldest trick in the book..surprised the masses fall for these schemes every single time Laughing out loudly


I think coronavirus is a different piece of cake altogether.It has a case mortality rate of 3% while flu is 0.1% and far higher R nought ie transimissibility than the flu.If covid-19 infects millions over the next few months as some scientists even think if could infect 70% of the global population then it could potentially kill millions.

Regardless of whether Covid-19 causes the global recession or not,a recession was inevitable.The world has lasted 12 years without a recession (the longest
lasting expansion in modern history) and recession was overdue and we were living on borrowed time.Central banks have been delaying the recession by injecting liquidity in every slight downturn in markets and inevitably a black swan would have appeared that central bank money printing couldnt mitigate against



Slick,
If you believe this then I have a AAA S&P rate Subprime CDO worth trillions that I would love to sell to you.
A paltry 4000 deaths in a couple of months so far, well over 50,000 and counting "cured" of the so called Coronavirus.
If more than 50k people "die" from this fake "pandemic" after all this dust has settled, I will give you 1 million kshs pesa tasilimu in clean crisp notes as your reward, sawa? smile
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slick
#38 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 11:31:23 AM
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amorphous wrote:
slick wrote:
amorphous wrote:
Even corona is a fix. A mere 10000 or less die from flu like symptoms (influenza kills 100's odf thousands in the US alone each year but no scaremongering there!) and all of a sudden entire nations are on lock down Laughing out loudly . I suspect the UN will be given teeth regarding "pandemic control" when all the dust settles. Then "financial control" once the global economy is imploded in due course. The Hegelian dialectic is the oldest trick in the book..surprised the masses fall for these schemes every single time Laughing out loudly


I think coronavirus is a different piece of cake altogether.It has a case mortality rate of 3% while flu is 0.1% and far higher R nought ie transimissibility than the flu.If covid-19 infects millions over the next few months as some scientists even think if could infect 70% of the global population then it could potentially kill millions.

Regardless of whether Covid-19 causes the global recession or not,a recession was inevitable.The world has lasted 12 years without a recession (the longest
lasting expansion in modern history) and recession was overdue and we were living on borrowed time.Central banks have been delaying the recession by injecting liquidity in every slight downturn in markets and inevitably a black swan would have appeared that central bank money printing couldnt mitigate against



Slick,
If you believe this then I have a AAA S&P rate Subprime CDO worth trillions that I would love to sell to you.
A paltry 4000 deaths in a couple of months so far, well over 50,000 and counting "cured" of the so called Coronavirus.
If more than 50k people "die" from this fake "pandemic" after all this dust has settled, I will give you 1 million kshs pesa tasilimu in clean crisp notes as your reward, sawa? smile


Haha. AAA S&P rate Subprime CDO were the bogus junk products that the rating agencies were giving triple AAA rating while they were worthless during the housing bubble that caused the 2008 meltdown when they collapsed.Now the madness is in corporate debt with leveraged loans,junk debt and CLOs.Yet again the rating agencies are misrating them as I explained in an earlier post and these CLOs are just as worthless as CDOs of the housing bubble.They CLOs,junk debt and sub-prime leveraged loans to undeserving corporates will blow up even more disastrously than the housing bubble products.Lets not forget the overleveraged shadow banking system.The US shale oil junk bonds are already in extreme distress and the corporate bond market is frozen up.Dont believe me,check out this Bloomberg interview



Well nobody knows where Covid-19 will finally play out but its definitely more serious than common flu.Do you think the Communists in China would lockdown entire cities and quarantine hundreds of millions knowing it will massively impact their economy for just a flu.The Communist government knows they only stay in power due to high economic growth and wouldnt have risked closing down the economy just for a flu.Also,death toll is much higher than the 4600 stated.Does anyone really believe Chinese figures that they are deliberately downplaying?Disease is still new and needs several months to really mature and peak and after this time period expect far more deaths.Regardless the virus has popped the biggest asset,debt and fiat currency bubble in history and I dont see how things can return to normal.The recession will play itself out regardless


It gets much worse.Yesterday marked a new turn for the worst.In prior days stocks and corporate bonds have been selling off massively as cash moved from these distressed assets into US government bonds as a safe heaven.Jana stocks,corporate bonds and government bonds all sold off together.A whole new nightmarish situation could be developing and liquidity is drying up in the treasury market as JP Morgan stated and as shown in this Bloomberg image.



A massive sell off in the treasury market would be the ultimate cataclysm.US bonds are viewed as the safest assets to hold in the world and the 10 year note is the benchmark rate for the world and if this starts to unravel then disaster on an unprecedented scale.US,as the largest debtor nation in history,cannot afford higher interest rates on its treasuries and the Fed is desperately buying bonds to keep rates suppressed and US government solvent.Let me not even talk of Eurozone and Japanese negative yielding bonds that are far worse than US treasuries.I have already explained in great detail the toxic effect of negative yielding Eurozone and Japanese bonds in an earlier post.If stocks,corporate and government bonds continue their simultaneous sell off this could get horrendously ugly
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slick
#39 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:17:43 PM
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slick wrote:
amorphous wrote:
slick wrote:
amorphous wrote:
Even corona is a fix. A mere 10000 or less die from flu like symptoms (influenza kills 100's odf thousands in the US alone each year but no scaremongering there!) and all of a sudden entire nations are on lock down Laughing out loudly . I suspect the UN will be given teeth regarding "pandemic control" when all the dust settles. Then "financial control" once the global economy is imploded in due course. The Hegelian dialectic is the oldest trick in the book..surprised the masses fall for these schemes every single time Laughing out loudly


I think coronavirus is a different piece of cake altogether.It has a case mortality rate of 3% while flu is 0.1% and far higher R nought ie transimissibility than the flu.If covid-19 infects millions over the next few months as some scientists even think if could infect 70% of the global population then it could potentially kill millions.

Regardless of whether Covid-19 causes the global recession or not,a recession was inevitable.The world has lasted 12 years without a recession (the longest
lasting expansion in modern history) and recession was overdue and we were living on borrowed time.Central banks have been delaying the recession by injecting liquidity in every slight downturn in markets and inevitably a black swan would have appeared that central bank money printing couldnt mitigate against



Slick,
If you believe this then I have a AAA S&P rate Subprime CDO worth trillions that I would love to sell to you.
A paltry 4000 deaths in a couple of months so far, well over 50,000 and counting "cured" of the so called Coronavirus.
If more than 50k people "die" from this fake "pandemic" after all this dust has settled, I will give you 1 million kshs pesa tasilimu in clean crisp notes as your reward, sawa? smile


Haha. AAA S&P rate Subprime CDO were the bogus junk products that the rating agencies were giving triple AAA rating while they were worthless during the housing bubble that caused the 2008 meltdown when they collapsed.Now the madness is in corporate debt with leveraged loans,junk debt and CLOs.Yet again the rating agencies are misrating them as I explained in an earlier post and these CLOs are just as worthless as CDOs of the housing bubble.They CLOs,junk debt and sub-prime leveraged loans to undeserving corporates will blow up even more disastrously than the housing bubble products.Lets not forget the overleveraged shadow banking system.The US shale oil junk bonds are already in extreme distress and the corporate bond market is frozen up.Dont believe me,check out this Bloomberg interview



Well nobody knows where Covid-19 will finally play out but its definitely more serious than common flu.Do you think the Communists in China would lockdown entire cities and quarantine hundreds of millions knowing it will massively impact their economy for just a flu.The Communist government knows they only stay in power due to high economic growth and wouldnt have risked closing down the economy just for a flu.Also,death toll is much higher than the 4600 stated.Does anyone really believe Chinese figures that they are deliberately downplaying?Disease is still new and needs several months to really mature and peak and after this time period expect far more deaths.Regardless the virus has popped the biggest asset,debt and fiat currency bubble in history and I dont see how things can return to normal.The recession will play itself out regardless


It gets much worse.Yesterday marked a new turn for the worst.In prior days stocks and corporate bonds have been selling off massively as cash moved from these distressed assets into US government bonds as a safe heaven.Jana stocks,corporate bonds and government bonds all sold off together.A whole new nightmarish situation could be developing and liquidity is drying up in the treasury market as JP Morgan stated and as shown in this Bloomberg image.



A massive sell off in the treasury market would be the ultimate cataclysm.US bonds are viewed as the safest assets to hold in the world and the 10 year note is the benchmark rate for the world and if this starts to unravel then disaster on an unprecedented scale.US,as the largest debtor nation in history,cannot afford higher interest rates on its treasuries and the Fed is desperately buying bonds to keep rates suppressed and US government solvent.Let me not even talk of Eurozone and Japanese negative yielding bonds that are far worse than US treasuries.I have already explained in great detail the toxic effect of negative yielding Eurozone and Japanese bonds in an earlier post.If stocks,corporate and government bonds continue their simultaneous sell off this could get horrendously ugly
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#40 Posted : Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:40:07 PM
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slick wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
slick wrote:
FASTEST 20% DROP IN THE DOW IN HISTORY



Now market demands Fed to cut rates by a whooping 75 basis points next week and if they do,rates will be at 25 to 50 basis points.Fed currently doing the fastest rate of liquidity injection in history via the repo market.There is now some discussion that Fed just goes ahead and directly buys stocks and corporate bonds in a US corporate bond market thats freezing up

Bank of England cut rates by 50 basis points to reach a measly 25 basis points

European Central Bank expected to cut rates even more negative tomorrow.its currently at minus 0.5% which is ridiculous but will cut more and inject even more liquidity bigger than they have ever done and buy more government and corporate bonds

Peoples Bank of China also doing repo liquidity injections like crazy

Bank of Japan is actively buying stocks via purchasing ETFs.

And it seems to be getting much worse hell but a short sellers heaven


The Central banks should not intervene in the markets.
The markets will self correct themselves.


@Ericsson.Yes,ideally in free markets central banks shouldn't intervene but central banks have been intervening perpetually in markets making problems far worse.These market bailouts and liquidity injections make problems far worse as any liquidity injection just creates more debt.If you research the current fiat debt based fractional reserve banking monetary system,all money is created from debt.If you think banks make loans from customer deposits then you are clearly duped.The banks create money from nothing and loan out at interest expands the money supply to ridiculous levels.No fiat debt based system has ever survived and all fiat currencies collapse to zero value.100% guarantee perfect record of fiat collapse throughout history.From Ancient Greece,Roman Empire,Chinese dynasties,1770s USA to Weinmar Germany,Zimbabwe,Venezuela all fiat currencies implode.Its highly possible the current Western style fiat system will unravel in similar fashion.

All boom and burst cycles are caused by central banks.The 1929 crash,the dotcom burst,the 2008 real estate crash and all other US recessions were all caused by the Fed.Central banks will intervene and print vast money to save the system and inevitably wont work and may cause hyperinflation.

Central banks cant just keep creating money from nothing to bailout failing institutions.These firms should be allowed to fail and clean out the excesses.16% of firms in the S&P 500 are zombie companies kept alive by Fed cheap money and should be allowed to collapse.The entire US shale oil industry should just be allowed to fail as their business model is unsustainable as their oil production costs are higher then oil prices.In 2008,all the Wall Street Banks should have allowed to fail even JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs as they duped investors with subprime loans and bogus Mortgage Backed Securities and Collateralized Debt Obligation (CDO) derivatives.It was a criminal act that these banks did during the housing bubble and should have been allowed to collapse but were bailed out and are now engaged in even more criminal excess in the corporate bond market.They should all fail then system starts afresh with more honest institutions.The collapse will be painful but its like a drug addict should suffer a painful weaning off drugs for longer term gain but central banks just keep pumping more monetary heroin.Inevitably the financial drug addict will overdose and it seems the financial system has reached that inflection point

Boom and burst cycle extends beyond the existence of central banks. CBs happen to be the perfect boogeymen for this gig since they've taken credit for the boom, the blame for the burst will also be theirs. It is a case of the tail wagging the dog.
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