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Angelica _ann
#2021 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2020 4:58:13 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Stocks investing is becoming very frustrating,you wait for ages with no meaningful return.

Technically the NSE20 has been in a secular bear for 12 years or so since that 6161 high in 2007. Some stocks have been under water ever since. The opportunity cost of buy and hold during a bear turn is immense. Take the Nikkei for example which has been in a 30 year secular bear and still down 40% currently from its 1990 high. Most European indices with the exception of the Dax and FTSE are yet to recapture their pre-GFC highs which underlines long-term economic/structural weaknesses.



I can proudly state here that i have made a tidy 17% from Flame tree Group(FTGH) in the past 3 weeks.I have offloaded all my holdings today at ksh. 1.74 (ABP 1.48).


12.5% nett, that is great. Keep it up.smile smile smile
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winmak
#2022 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:00:19 PM
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Joined: 12/1/2007
Posts: 539
Location: Nakuru
maka wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Stocks investing is becoming very frustrating,you wait for ages with no meaningful return.

Technically the NSE20 has been in a secular bear for 12 years or so since that 6161 high in 2007. Some stocks have been under water ever since. The opportunity cost of buy and hold during a bear turn is immense. Take the Nikkei for example which has been in a 30 year secular bear and still down 40% currently from its 1990 high. Most European indices with the exception of the Dax and FTSE are yet to recapture their pre-GFC highs which underlines long-term economic/structural weaknesses.



Bonds...Bonds...Bonds.smile smile smile smile smile smile smile


https://www.standardmedi...-corporate-bond-drought

You were on to something
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
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VituVingiSana
#2023 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:31:47 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
winmak wrote:
maka wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Stocks investing is becoming very frustrating,you wait for ages with no meaningful return.

Technically the NSE20 has been in a secular bear for 12 years or so since that 6161 high in 2007. Some stocks have been under water ever since. The opportunity cost of buy and hold during a bear turn is immense. Take the Nikkei for example which has been in a 30 year secular bear and still down 40% currently from its 1990 high. Most European indices with the exception of the Dax and FTSE are yet to recapture their pre-GFC highs which underlines long-term economic/structural weaknesses.


Bonds...Bonds...Bonds.smile smile smile smile smile smile smile


https://www.standardmedi...-corporate-bond-drought

You were on to something
When GoK pays 10%, who is going to invest in corporate bond at similar rates?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Fyatu
#2024 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:44:47 PM
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Posts: 1,820
Location: Nakuru
Angelica _ann wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Stocks investing is becoming very frustrating,you wait for ages with no meaningful return.

Technically the NSE20 has been in a secular bear for 12 years or so since that 6161 high in 2007. Some stocks have been under water ever since. The opportunity cost of buy and hold during a bear turn is immense. Take the Nikkei for example which has been in a 30 year secular bear and still down 40% currently from its 1990 high. Most European indices with the exception of the Dax and FTSE are yet to recapture their pre-GFC highs which underlines long-term economic/structural weaknesses.



I can proudly state here that i have made a tidy 17% from Flame tree Group(FTGH) in the past 3 weeks.I have offloaded all my holdings today at ksh. 1.74 (ABP 1.48).


12.5% nett, that is great. Keep it up.smile smile smile


It is actually 17 % net.

I bought 10000 shares of FTGH @ 1.45 of 21st Feb 2020.

Here is the math:

BUYING
shares bought = 10000
charges'fees = 0.02%
Total amount spent on investment = 1.02 * 14500 = ksh 14790


SELLING
Shares sold = 10000
selling price= 1.74
charges/fees = 0.02%
Total amount after received after selling = kshs. 17052

(10000 * 1.74) * 0.98 = 17052




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VituVingiSana
#2025 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:51:12 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
Fyatu wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Stocks investing is becoming very frustrating,you wait for ages with no meaningful return.

Technically the NSE20 has been in a secular bear for 12 years or so since that 6161 high in 2007. Some stocks have been under water ever since. The opportunity cost of buy and hold during a bear turn is immense. Take the Nikkei for example which has been in a 30 year secular bear and still down 40% currently from its 1990 high. Most European indices with the exception of the Dax and FTSE are yet to recapture their pre-GFC highs which underlines long-term economic/structural weaknesses.



I can proudly state here that i have made a tidy 17% from Flame tree Group(FTGH) in the past 3 weeks.I have offloaded all my holdings today at ksh. 1.74 (ABP 1.48).


12.5% nett, that is great. Keep it up.smile smile smile


It is actually 17 % net.

I bought 10000 shares of FTGH @ 1.45 of 21st Feb 2020.

Here is the math:

BUYING
shares bought = 10000
charges'fees = 0.02%
Total amount spent on investment = 1.02 * 14500 = ksh 14790


SELLING
Shares sold = 10000
selling price= 1.74
charges/fees = 0.02%
Total amount after received after selling = kshs. 17052

(10000 * 1.74) * 0.98 = 17052
Please introduce me to your broker.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Ericsson
#2026 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:01:23 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Stocks investing is becoming very frustrating,you wait for ages with no meaningful return.

Technically the NSE20 has been in a secular bear for 12 years or so since that 6161 high in 2007. Some stocks have been under water ever since. The opportunity cost of buy and hold during a bear turn is immense. Take the Nikkei for example which has been in a 30 year secular bear and still down 40% currently from its 1990 high. Most European indices with the exception of the Dax and FTSE are yet to recapture their pre-GFC highs which underlines long-term economic/structural weaknesses.



I can proudly state here that i have made a tidy 17% from Flame tree Group(FTGH) in the past 3 weeks.I have offloaded all my holdings today at ksh. 1.74 (ABP 1.48).


12.5% nett, that is great. Keep it up.smile smile smile


It is actually 17 % net.

I bought 10000 shares of FTGH @ 1.45 of 21st Feb 2020.

Here is the math:

BUYING
shares bought = 10000
charges'fees = 0.02%
Total amount spent on investment = 1.02 * 14500 = ksh 14790


SELLING
Shares sold = 10000
selling price= 1.74
charges/fees = 0.02%
Total amount after received after selling = kshs. 17052

(10000 * 1.74) * 0.98 = 17052
Please introduce me to your broker.

@vvs
It's not 0.02%,should be 2% as per the calculation.
0.02 is the absolute figure
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Fyatu
#2027 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:10:55 PM
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Joined: 1/20/2011
Posts: 1,820
Location: Nakuru
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Stocks investing is becoming very frustrating,you wait for ages with no meaningful return.

Technically the NSE20 has been in a secular bear for 12 years or so since that 6161 high in 2007. Some stocks have been under water ever since. The opportunity cost of buy and hold during a bear turn is immense. Take the Nikkei for example which has been in a 30 year secular bear and still down 40% currently from its 1990 high. Most European indices with the exception of the Dax and FTSE are yet to recapture their pre-GFC highs which underlines long-term economic/structural weaknesses.



I can proudly state here that i have made a tidy 17% from Flame tree Group(FTGH) in the past 3 weeks.I have offloaded all my holdings today at ksh. 1.74 (ABP 1.48).


12.5% nett, that is great. Keep it up.smile smile smile


It is actually 17 % net.

I bought 10000 shares of FTGH @ 1.45 of 21st Feb 2020.

Here is the math:

BUYING
shares bought = 10000
charges'fees = 0.02%
Total amount spent on investment = 1.02 * 14500 = ksh 14790


SELLING
Shares sold = 10000
selling price= 1.74
charges/fees = 0.02%
Total amount after received after selling = kshs. 17052

(10000 * 1.74) * 0.98 = 17052
Please introduce me to your broker.


hehehehe.....sorry. It is 2% charges/fees thus the 2/100 = 0.02
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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lochaz-index
#2028 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 12:41:27 AM
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Joined: 9/18/2014
Posts: 1,127
Another heavy down day for the Dow. It has shed 1900 points in two days. Heavy PPT action at the open which was quickly overwhelmed by sellers. 10 yr UST touched a record low which doesn't portend well for the global economy in 2020. In view of the fact that trade fell in 2019 first time since 2009, could be pricing in recessions in most countries.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#2029 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 10:00:17 AM
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Posts: 2,225
Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
lochaz-index wrote:
Another heavy down day for the Dow. It has shed 1900 points in two days. Heavy PPT action at the open which was quickly overwhelmed by sellers. 10 yr UST touched a record low which doesn't portend well for the global economy in 2020. In view of the fact that trade fell in 2019 first time since 2009, could be pricing in recessions in most countries.


What a rout!!!6% shave.
Seems the PPT ran out of cash along the waysmile
@SufficientlyP
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Ericsson
#2030 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:07:12 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Another heavy down day for the Dow. It has shed 1900 points in two days. Heavy PPT action at the open which was quickly overwhelmed by sellers. 10 yr UST touched a record low which doesn't portend well for the global economy in 2020. In view of the fact that trade fell in 2019 first time since 2009, could be pricing in recessions in most countries.


What a rout!!!6% shave.
Seems the PPT ran out of cash along the waysmile


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