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Dropping Swahili as a Subject in Schools.
kaka2za
#71 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2020 8:50:08 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,058
Location: Gwitu
Ngalaka wrote:
TUJIFUNZE KISWAHILI
1. Charger - kimemeshi
2. Remote - kitenzambali
3. Password - nywila
4. Akala (bladder shoes) - kirikiri
5. Passion fruit - karakara
6. Kangaroo - bukunyika
7. Fridge - jokofu
8. Juice - sharubati
9. Chips - vibanzi
10. PHD - uzamifu
11. Masters degree - uzamili
12. Degree - shahada
13. Diploma - stashahada
14. Certificate - astashahada
15. Keyboard - kicharazio
16. Scanner - mdaki
17. Flash disk - diski mweko
18. Mouse (for a computer) - kiteuzi
19. Floppy disk - diski tepetevu
20. Computer virus - mtaliga
21. Distillation - ukenekaji
22. Evaporation - mvukizo
23. Synthesis - uoanishaji
24. Oesophagus - umio
25. Greenhouse - kivungulio
26. Femur - fupaja
27. Germ cell - selizazi
28. Humus - mboji
29. Nector - mbochi/ntwe
30. Nutrients - virutubisho
31. Crystal - fuwele
32. Appetizers - vihamuzi
33. ATM - kiotomotela
34. Business card - kadikazi
35. Scratch card - kadi hela
36. Simcard - kadiwia/mkamimo
37. Memory card - kadi sakima
38. Microwave - tanuri ya miale
39. Mobile phone - rununu/rukono
40. Stapler - kibanizi
41. Laptop - kipakatalishi
42. Power saw - msumeno oto
43. Duplicating machine - kirudufu
44. Photocopier - kinukuzi
45. Cocktail party - tafrija mchapulo
46. Air conditioner - kiyoyo
zi
47. Calculator - kikokotozi
48. Lift - kambarau
49. Reaction - radiamali
50. Toothpick - kichokonoo
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


Here lies the problem. To learn a language, you don't need to use vocabularies.

All above words are academic. No one uses them in conversations not even in Zanzibar.
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Wrong forever on the throne
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Spikes
#72 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2020 9:28:36 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
Ngalaka wrote:
The proposal proffered in this thread was/is that Kiswahili is taught as a universal subject across the board only up to class 3 or 4 but certainly not as a mandatory as well as examinable at the final year of Primary education and secondary education.
Those students who may wish to pursue Kiswahili all the way to University level should be free to do that – at least to keep BBC Kiswahili radio and the likes staffed.
Making it mandatory and examinable at Primary & Secondary levels is a major disservice to students.
The subject contributes to ones mean score and can stand in the way of opportunities.

Teaching Kiswahili up to secondary level has not made ‘us’ good speakers of the language neither can it the said to have contributed that much to its uptake in society.
Come to think of it an average adult Tanzanian in Arusha who left school at grade 4 speaks better Kiswahili than an average Kenyan who got an A at KCSE.
An average Kenyan in Nakuru who failed his Kiswahili exam at class 8 and dropped out of school at that level, speaks more or less similar Kiswahili with a person who got an A at form four.
As a matter of fact an overwhelming majority of university graduates prefer to use English most of the time.
A Kenya intellectual is shamed on BBC radio by a Tanzanian commoner, or a coastarian.
So I don’t see how making it mandatory & examinable has helped us.


Ngalaka wrote:
TUJIFUNZE KISWAHILI
1. Charger - kimemeshi
2. Remote - kitenzambali
3. Password - nywila
4. Akala (bladder shoes) - kirikiri
5. Passion fruit - karakara
6. Kangaroo - bukunyika
7. Fridge - jokofu
8. Juice - sharubati
9. Chips - vibanzi
10. PHD - uzamifu
11. Masters degree - uzamili
12. Degree - shahada
13. Diploma - stashahada
14. Certificate - astashahada
15. Keyboard - kicharazio
16. Scanner - mdaki
17. Flash disk - diski mweko
18. Mouse (for a computer) - kiteuzi
19. Floppy disk - diski tepetevu
20. Computer virus - mtaliga
21. Distillation - ukenekaji
22. Evaporation - mvukizo
23. Synthesis - uoanishaji
24. Oesophagus - umio
25. Greenhouse - kivungulio
26. Femur - fupaja
27. Germ cell - selizazi
28. Humus - mboji
29. Nector - mbochi/ntwe
30. Nutrients - virutubisho
31. Crystal - fuwele
32. Appetizers - vihamuzi
33. ATM - kiotomotela
34. Business card - kadikazi
35. Scratch card - kadi hela
36. Simcard - kadiwia/mkamimo
37. Memory card - kadi sakima
38. Microwave - tanuri ya miale
39. Mobile phone - rununu/rukono
40. Stapler - kibanizi
41. Laptop - kipakatalishi
42. Power saw - msumeno oto
43. Duplicating machine - kirudufu
44. Photocopier - kinukuzi
45. Cocktail party - tafrija mchapulo
46. Air conditioner - kiyoyozi
47. Calculator - kikokotozi
48. Lift - kambarau
49. Reaction - radiamali
50. Toothpick - kichokonoo
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


I can't waste time learning something of no use to me.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Ngalaka
#73 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2020 9:12:39 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 10/29/2008
Posts: 1,566
kaka2za wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
TUJIFUNZE KISWAHILI
1. Charger - kimemeshi
2. Remote - kitenzambali
3. Password - nywila
4. Akala (bladder shoes) - kirikiri
5. Passion fruit - karakara
6. Kangaroo - bukunyika
7. Fridge - jokofu
8. Juice - sharubati
9. Chips - vibanzi
10. PHD - uzamifu
11. Masters degree - uzamili
12. Degree - shahada
13. Diploma - stashahada
14. Certificate - astashahada
15. Keyboard - kicharazio
16. Scanner - mdaki
17. Flash disk - diski mweko
18. Mouse (for a computer) - kiteuzi
19. Floppy disk - diski tepetevu
20. Computer virus - mtaliga
21. Distillation - ukenekaji
22. Evaporation - mvukizo
23. Synthesis - uoanishaji
24. Oesophagus - umio
25. Greenhouse - kivungulio
26. Femur - fupaja
27. Germ cell - selizazi
28. Humus - mboji
29. Nector - mbochi/ntwe
30. Nutrients - virutubisho
31. Crystal - fuwele
32. Appetizers - vihamuzi
33. ATM - kiotomotela
34. Business card - kadikazi
35. Scratch card - kadi hela
36. Simcard - kadiwia/mkamimo
37. Memory card - kadi sakima
38. Microwave - tanuri ya miale
39. Mobile phone - rununu/rukono
40. Stapler - kibanizi
41. Laptop - kipakatalishi
42. Power saw - msumeno oto
43. Duplicating machine - kirudufu
44. Photocopier - kinukuzi
45. Cocktail party - tafrija mchapulo
46. Air conditioner - kiyoyo
zi
47. Calculator - kikokotozi
48. Lift - kambarau
49. Reaction - radiamali
50. Toothpick - kichokonoo
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


Here lies the problem. To learn a language, you don't need to use vocabularies.

All above words are academic. No one uses them in conversations not even in Zanzibar.

Duly paying attention to the substantive discussion; - I guess we both appreciate that a student sitting his KCSE could be faced with such or similar vocabularies, Methalis, kanushas, kinyumes ningalis ningelis or the ngelis.

What the student scores here affects his/her mean score and could well mean not qualifying to study medicine.

We need to seriously re-examine our policies in education and how well they prepare us to position ourselves in the scheme of international economy.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Lolest!
#74 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2020 1:12:09 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
Quote:
Making it mandatory and examinable at Primary & Secondary levels is a major disservice to students.
The subject contributes to ones mean score and can stand in the way of opportunities


In the new CBC system, isn't there a specialization phase like A levels of kitambo where say a student interested in science courses just takes relevant subjects?
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