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Kenya Airways CEO quits over government meddling Mikosz said he was leaving for “personal” reasons and that he would use the next seven months in office to continue with his turnaround strategy. In an internal memo, he told the staff to expect “some good news concerning our future developments” in the next few weeks. Many are speculating, however, that the resignation of Mikosz – who was head-hunted to run the loss-making Kenya Airlines after turning around LOT Polish Airlines – has more to do with his frustration at boardroom opposition to his plans and government interference. Tense board meetings “With Sebastian Mikosz, Kenya Airways had the best guy it could get,” says Jared Muriuki, a research analyst at Genghis Capital. “His resignation is not surprising though, given the recent developments.” The abrupt resignation also brings to the fore the boardroom tensions within the airline. Mikosz’s resignation was accepted after the airline’s chairman, Michael Joseph, broke a tie in the board’s votes. Mikosz’s reign has been marked by protracted conflict over a controversial plan to hand over the Kenya Airports Authority’s most prized asset, the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA), to the airline. A report by the Daily Nation said that he had sidelined top managers who were critical. They then “chose to sabotage every step he made, leaking his every strategy before it fermented.” For example, according to the embattled executive: “After cabinet approved the PPP [for the KQ-JKIA deal] and we started the next phase, submitting it, we were accused of hiding it. The moment we sent the proposal, everyone went up in arms and we were accused of all manner of things including how a crooked deal it was.” In an interview after he announced his resignation, Mikosz said he had started out by analysing the strengths of the airlines that Kenya Airways was losing market share to. “I asked myself: What do they do that I do not or what do they have that I don’t? The first thing I noticed is that they have a different purpose of existence.” That “purpose of existence” is primarily that they are government-owned, while Kenya Airways is a public-private company. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Thread has over 14,000 posts. Over 10,000 posts contain these words: - watch and learn; - I speak in code; Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,124 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:Thread has over 14,000 posts.
Over 10,000 posts contain these words:
- watch and learn; - I speak in code;
Kamikaze? Open Offer? 8.52? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,124 Location: Nairobi
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KQ considers rights issue ahead of nationalisation https://www.businessdail...55100-a3xn12/index.html
@obiero get your chqbook ready! "Kenya Airways is still considering selling new shares to small investors ahead of the carrier’s nationalisation." Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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There's no other way to create equilibrium HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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obiero wrote:There's no other way to create equilibrium What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization?
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FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:There's no other way to create equilibrium What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization? they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,555 Location: nairobi
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littledove wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:There's no other way to create equilibrium What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization? they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Can a rights issue legally proceed before Mikosz replacement takes office ? “You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,555 Location: nairobi
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HaMaina wrote:Can a rights issue legally proceed before Mikosz replacement takes office ? Of course. The resolution was passed by the business owners HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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obiero wrote:littledove wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:There's no other way to create equilibrium What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization? they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,555 Location: nairobi
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passiveinvestor wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:There's no other way to create equilibrium What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization? they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!! You are assuming that the 98% stake held by GoK, KQLC, KLM, KQ ESOP shall fall to that level.. Very skewed HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,124 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:passiveinvestor wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:There's no other way to create equilibrium What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization? they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!! You are assuming that the 98% stake held by GoK, KQLC, KLM, KQ ESOP shall fall to that level.. Very skewed What's the current NAV/share of KQ? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,555 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:passiveinvestor wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:There's no other way to create equilibrium What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization? they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!! You are assuming that the 98% stake held by GoK, KQLC, KLM, KQ ESOP shall fall to that level.. Very skewed What's the current NAV/share of KQ? Lala HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,124 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:passiveinvestor wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:There's no other way to create equilibrium What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization? they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!! You are assuming that the 98% stake held by GoK, KQLC, KLM, KQ ESOP shall fall to that level.. Very skewed What's the current NAV/share of KQ? Lala In English What's the current NAV/share of KQ? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:passiveinvestor wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:There's no other way to create equilibrium What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization? they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!! You are assuming that the 98% stake held by GoK, KQLC, KLM, KQ ESOP shall fall to that level.. Very skewed What's the current NAV/share of KQ? Lala In English What's the current NAV/share of KQ? Shareholders' equity is negative yet elder @Obiero expects to be paid 8.52 per share by a broke GOK. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,124 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:passiveinvestor wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:There's no other way to create equilibrium What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization? they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!! You are assuming that the 98% stake held by GoK, KQLC, KLM, KQ ESOP shall fall to that level.. Very skewed What's the current NAV/share of KQ? Lala In English What's the current NAV/share of KQ? Shareholders' equity is negative yet elder @Obiero expects to be paid 8.52 per share by a broke GOK. Let @Obiero tell us KQ is not Amazon with AWS or an amazing brand or a massive base of loyal customers. Even Kenyans, like myself, shop around for tickets. We want value for our hard-earned money. So @Obiero what's the current NAV/share and projected EPS of KQ? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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@obiero's move could work simply because we are in a banana republic. They should not pay anything more than 0.00 for a company in negative equity.The banks got in at a tough time, they must be redeemed. This is a true kamikaze move however, I have to say..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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nairobby wrote:@obiero's move could work simply because we are in a banana republic. They should not pay anything more than 0.00 for a company in negative equity.The banks got in at a tough time, they must be redeemed. This is a true kamikaze move however, I have to say.. This is Hope as an investment strategy. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,555 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:nairobby wrote:@obiero's move could work simply because we are in a banana republic. They should not pay anything more than 0.00 for a company in negative equity.The banks got in at a tough time, they must be redeemed. This is a true kamikaze move however, I have to say.. This is Hope as an investment strategy. Hope is eternal HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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