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KCB 2018 and Beyond
obiero
#461 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 4:39:20 PM
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27.1B Q3 PBT

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#462 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 4:46:54 PM
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PAT comes in at 19.16B, growth of 6.2%
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watesh
#463 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:41:23 PM
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KCB does well in Tanzania and stumbles in Uganda. Equity does well in Uganda and stumbles in Tanzania. They should share notes for those markets
FUNKY
#464 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 6:22:46 PM
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watesh wrote:
KCB does well in Tanzania and stumbles in Uganda. Equity does well in Uganda and stumbles in Tanzania. They should share notes for those markets


Same with south sudan
Ericsson
#465 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 8:54:54 PM
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cyruskulei wrote:
heri wrote:
Will we get KCB at below 45 again this year?


It will touch 44 in Dec. Then Jan 2020 it will begin to rise to 60.

Okay
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#466 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 9:21:36 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
heri wrote:
Will we get KCB at below 45 again this year?


It will touch 44 in Dec. Then Jan 2020 it will begin to rise to 60.

Okay

44 will not be sighted, maybe only on lead up to 2022

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#467 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 9:59:30 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
heri wrote:
Will we get KCB at below 45 again this year?


It will touch 44 in Dec. Then Jan 2020 it will begin to rise to 60.

Okay

44 will not be sighted, maybe only on lead up to 2022

Shhhh obiero Shhh Shhh
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ebenyo
#468 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:58:37 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=heri]Will we get KCB at below 45 again this year?


It will touch 44 in Dec. Then Jan 2020 it will begin to rise to 60.

Okay

44 will not be sighted, maybe only on lead up to 2022


unwritten law; never say NEVER.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Kingotore
#469 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:01:50 AM
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When is the interim divided been paid?
GOOD TO GREAT. KINGOTORE
Ebenyo
#470 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:29:15 AM
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Kingotore wrote:
When is the interim divided been paid?



15th Nov 2019
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Ebenyo
#471 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:29:03 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
heri wrote:
Will we get KCB at below 45 again this year?


It will touch 44 in Dec. Then Jan 2020 it will begin to rise to 60.

Okay

44 will not be sighted, maybe only on lead up to 2022







We maxed out KCB’s historic chart, and we found out some interesting stuff. KCB hit a historic low of KES 7.39 in 2002 and it hit an all-time high of KES 233.77 in 2006 before it fell sharply in 2007 due to a 10-1 split that year .Undoubtedly, KCB has been volatile with various swings in its lifetime, this has presented profit making opportunities and loss making endeavors.
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young
#472 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:34:35 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
heri wrote:
Will we get KCB at below 45 again this year?


It will touch 44 in Dec. Then Jan 2020 it will begin to rise to 60.

Okay

44 will not be sighted, maybe only on lead up to 2022







We maxed out KCB’s historic chart, and we found out some interesting stuff. KCB hit a historic low of KES 7.39 in 2002 and it hit an all-time high of KES 233.77 in 2006 before it fell sharply in 2007 due to a 10-1 split that year .Undoubtedly, KCB has been volatile with various swings in its lifetime, this has presented profit making opportunities and loss making endeavors.



Exactly and on point.
A good speculation and income counter.
A skilled speculator can make at least 30% y_o_y.
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#473 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 3:38:16 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
heri wrote:
Will we get KCB at below 45 again this year?


It will touch 44 in Dec. Then Jan 2020 it will begin to rise to 60.

Okay

44 will not be sighted, maybe only on lead up to 2022







We maxed out KCB’s historic chart, and we found out some interesting stuff. KCB hit a historic low of KES 7.39 in 2002 and it hit an all-time high of KES 233.77 in 2006 before it fell sharply in 2007 due to a 10-1 split that year .Undoubtedly, KCB has been volatile with various swings in its lifetime, this has presented profit making opportunities and loss making endeavors.


Great analysis @Ebonyo. Slight correction, KCB's 2006 high was surprisingly the last trading day, Dec 29th where it hit a high of KES.245, trailing PE 0f 40.Similar PE now would price KCB at KES.300d'oh! NSE20 closed the year at 5645 having gained 80 points on that day. It would go on to hit a pre split high of 264 in early 2007 before split book closure on 02.04.2007.
@SufficientlyP
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#474 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 3:47:37 PM
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Quote:
29-Dec-06
NAIROBI STOCK EXCHANGE
DAILY PRICE LIST
NATION CENTRE, (1st FLOOR), KIMATHI STREET
P.O. BOX 43633, NAIROBI. TEL: 2831000 FAX: 224200
E-MAIL: info@nse.co.ke: Website: www.nse.co.ke

LAST 12 MONTHS MAIN INVESTMENT MARKET SEGMENT
HIGH LOW TRADING HIGH LOW WAP PREVIOUS TOTAL
STATUS 29-Dec-06 DEAL SHARES
AGRICULTURAL
117.00 75.00 Unilever Tea Kenya Ltd Ord 10.00 83.00 80.00 80.00 80.00 300
55.50 32.00 Kakuzi Ord.5.00 43.00 42.00 42.25 41.00 2,700
33.25 16.95 Rea Vipingo Plantations Ltd Ord 5.00 26.00 25.00 25.75 25.75 26,100
190.00 24.00 Sasini Tea & Coffee Ltd Ord 5.00 Cb/Cs 142.00 140.00 141.00 138.00 29,600

COMMERCIAL AND SERVICES
64.00 22.50 Car & General (K) Ltd Ord 5.00 50.00
179.00 47.00 CMC Holdings Ltd Ord 5.00 179.00 168.00 176.00 163.00 93,337
20.25 20.25 Hutchings Biemer Ltd Ord 5.00 s 20.25
147.00 36.00 Kenya Airways Ltd Ord 5.00 121.00 117.00 119.00 119.00 109,200
50.00 24.50 Marshalls (E.A.) Ltd Ord 5.00 38.00
430.00 150.00 Nation Media Group Ord. 5.00 cd 330.00 310.00 313.00 311.00 6,146
37.00 12.00 Scangroup Ltd Ord 1.00 25.50 24.50 24.75 24.75 120,790
125.00 73.00 TPS Eastern Africa (Serena) Ltd Ord 1.00 89.00 86.00 86.50 87.50 10,145
23.25 10.45 Uchumi Supermarket Ltd Ord 5.00 S 14.50

FINANCE AND INVESTMENT
100.00 60.00 Barclays Bank Ltd Ord 2.00 Xb/Xs 78.00 69.00 77.00 71.50 310,879
96.00 54.00 C.F.C Bank Ltd ord.5.00 xd 89.00 85.00 89.00 89.50 6,000
94.50 24.00 Diamond Trust Bank Kenya Ltd Ord 4.00 xr 75.00 71.00 72.50 71.00 161,800
182.00 95.00 Equity Bank Ltd Ord 5.00 140.00 137.00 139.00 136.00 6,951
67.00 10.35 Housing Finance Co Ltd Ord 5.00 51.00 42.25 48.00 46.75 127,150
800.00 60.00 I.C.D.C Investments Co Ltd Ord 5.00 cs/cd 345.00 315.00 325.00 320.00 190,500
435.00 65.00 Jubilee Holdings Ltd Ord 5.00 344.00 320.00 323.00 315.00 8,272
245.00 64.00 Kenya Commercial Bank Ltd Ord 10.00 245.00 230.00 241.00 227.00 121,536
76.00 22.50 National Bank of Kenya Ltd Ord 5.00 59.50 56.00 58.00 58.50 76,933
110.00 40.00 NIC Bank Ltd 0rd 5.00 104.00 100.00 102.00 102.00 17,327
100.00 34.00 Pan Africa Insurance Holdings Ltd 0rd 5.00 92.00 90.00 91.50 91.50 900
244.00 122.00 Standard Chartered Bank Ltd Ord 5.00 xd 207.00 205.00 205.00 205.00 9,500

INDUSTRIAL AND ALLIED
99.50 27.00 Athi River Mining Ord 5.00 85.00 80.50 83.00 81.50 21,616
160.00 140.00 B.O.C Kenya Ltd Ord 5.00 s 160.00
250.00 120.00 Bamburi Cement Ltd Ord 5.00 215.00 209.00 215.00 210.00 3,700
220.00 154.00 British American Tobacco Kenya Ltd Ord 10.00 200.00 195.00 197.00 199.00 3,325
138.00 126.00 Carbacid Investments Ltd Ord 5.00 s 137.00
46.00 25.00 Crown Berger Ltd 0rd 5.00 44.00 40.00 43.75 43.00 3,000
110.00 39.50 E.A.Cables Ltd Ord 0.50 50.00 45.50 48.00 46.25 130,807
148.00 82.00 E.A.Portland Cement Ltd Ord 5.00 xd 128.00 128.00 128.00 128.00 2,000
165.00 115.00 East African Breweries Ltd Ord 2.00 144.00 135.00 139.00 137.00 229,665
28.00 11.00 Eveready East Africa Ltd Ord.1.00 cd 19.20 17.55 17.95 18.10 365,941
152.00 104.00 Kenya Oil Co Ltd Ord 0.50 110.00 108.00 108.00 109.00 13,800
310.00 115.00 Kenya Power & Lighting Ltd Ord 20.00 xd 275.00 270.00 270.00 270.00 52,883
49.00 26.00 KenGen Ltd. Ord. 2.50 xd 30.25 26.50 29.25 28.25 2,158,625
68.00 23.00 Mumias Sugar Co. Ltd Ord 2.00 55.00 53.00 54.00 53.00 226,072
40.00 13.20 Olympia Capital Holdings ltd Ord 5.00 32.50 28.50 31.00 30.00 6,700
40.00 12.65 Sameer Africa Ltd Ord 5.00 24.75 23.00 24.25 22.50 19,400
46.75 34.00 Total Kenya Ltd Ord 5.00 35.00 33.00 34.75 34.75 42,068
24.00 15.00 Unga Group Ltd Ord 5.00 18.50 18.00 18.00 17.20 46,500


ALTERNATIVE INVESTMENT MARKET SEGMENT

45.00 9.90 A.Baumann & Co.Ltd Ord 5.00 33.00
500.00 50.00 City Trust Ltd Ord 5.00 xd 86.00 86.00 86.00 85.00 6,200
51.50 16.75 Eaagads Ltd Ord 1.25 52.00 52.00 52.00 51.50 5,000
33.25 11.60 Express Ltd Ord 5.00 26.50 24.00 24.25 26.00 53,300
128.00 70.50 Williamson Tea Kenya Ltd Ord 5.00 118.00 118.00 118.00 120.00 4,000
180.00 80.00 Kapchorua Tea Co. Ltd Ord Ord 5.00 100.00 98.00 98.00 100.00 6,300
5.00 4.15 Kenya Orchards Ltd Ord 5.00 5.00
365.00 310.00 Limuru Tea Co. Ltd Ord 20.00 350.00
74.50 33.50 Standard Group Ltd Ord 5.00 cb 69.00 66.00 66.50 68.50 8,000



Quote:

NSE 20-SHARE INDEX (1966 = 100 )
Up 80.46 points to close at 5645.65


The Good old days!
@SufficientlyP
Ebenyo
#475 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 4:09:18 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
heri wrote:
Will we get KCB at below 45 again this year?


It will touch 44 in Dec. Then Jan 2020 it will begin to rise to 60.

Okay

44 will not be sighted, maybe only on lead up to 2022







We maxed out KCB’s historic chart, and we found out some interesting stuff. KCB hit a historic low of KES 7.39 in 2002 and it hit an all-time high of KES 233.77 in 2006 before it fell sharply in 2007 due to a 10-1 split that year .Undoubtedly, KCB has been volatile with various swings in its lifetime, this has presented profit making opportunities and loss making endeavors.


Great analysis @Ebonyo. Slight correction, KCB's 2006 high was surprisingly the last trading day, Dec 29th where it hit a high of KES.245, trailing PE 0f 40.Similar PE now would price KCB at KES.300d'oh! NSE20 closed the year at 5645 having gained 80 points on that day. It would go on to hit a pre split high of 264 in early 2007 before split book closure on 02.04.2007.




@spt good correction
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VituVingiSana
#476 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:17:24 PM
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On the other hand this is the time to buy and hold for the better days assuming the Dynamic Duo or it is the Terrible Three don't mess it up!

Most banks are trading at less an 2x PB and 10x PER.
Dividend Yields of 7% (on some shares) are available.
Earnings Yields of 7%+ on many counters.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Horton
#477 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2019 10:53:06 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
On the other hand this is the time to buy and hold for the better days assuming the Dynamic Duo or it is the Terrible Three don't mess it up!

Most banks are trading at less an 2x PB and 10x PER.
Dividend Yields of 7% (on some shares) are available.
Earnings Yields of 7%+ on many counters.



Fully exited KCB at 49.90-50/- for now need chapaa
Kingotore
#478 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2019 5:23:48 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Kingotore wrote:
When is the interim divided been paid?



15th Nov 2019



Thanks
GOOD TO GREAT. KINGOTORE
VituVingiSana
#479 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2019 6:51:54 PM
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Horton wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
On the other hand this is the time to buy and hold for the better days assuming the Dynamic Duo or it is the Terrible Three don't mess it up!

Most banks are trading at less an 2x PB and 10x PER.
Dividend Yields of 7% (on some shares) are available.
Earnings Yields of 7%+ on many counters.


Fully exited KCB at 49.90-50/- for now need chapaa
Different strokes for different folks as we saw in KK.
I am more of a Memba and I&M jamaa. KCB is simply a bellwether for me.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#480 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2019 6:56:29 PM
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Horton wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
On the other hand this is the time to buy and hold for the better days assuming the Dynamic Duo or it is the Terrible Three don't mess it up!

Most banks are trading at less an 2x PB and 10x PER.
Dividend Yields of 7% (on some shares) are available.
Earnings Yields of 7%+ on many counters.



Fully exited KCB at 49.90-50/- for now need chapaa

It is allowed

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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