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Exchange Bar: Results forecast
Horton
#2061 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 7:44:41 PM
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watesh wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
The gap at the top is widening. Simba on the prowl

Equity has a better spread of businesses (9 countries). I have bet on Equity over KCB.

Ecobank is in even more countries but look at the return and market share. Having many wives doesn't guarantee happiness


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True as we have seen currency is a real threat
VituVingiSana
#2062 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 7:48:23 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
The gap at the top is widening. Simba on the prowl

Equity has a better spread of businesses (9 countries). I have bet on Equity over KCB.

Ecobank is in even more countries but look at the return and market share. Having many wives doesn't guarantee happiness
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Anyway, we shall see. I am a long-term guy so I do not mind waiting for a few more years.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#2063 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 8:03:34 PM
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obiero wrote:
The gap at the top is widening. Simba on the prowl


Told you after release of Q1 results when Equity bank was ahead that KCB will outpace them in subsequent quarters
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Ericsson
#2064 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 8:11:58 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
The gap at the top is widening. Simba on the prowl

Equity has a better spread of businesses (9 countries). I have bet on Equity over KCB.

Ecobank is in even more countries but look at the return and market share. Having many wives doesn't guarantee happiness


Kcb Q3 2018 is higher than Equity group Q3 2019.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#2065 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 8:12:52 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
The gap at the top is widening. Simba on the prowl

Told you after release of Q1 results when Equity bank was ahead that KCB will outpace them in subsequent quarters

Hare vs Tortoise?

Oigara wants to leave with a huge payday in 2-3 years.
JM ako pale until 2040 Laughing out loudly

As Munger/Buffett said, this is a marathon not a sprint.

Good luck to all.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#2066 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 8:13:54 PM
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obiero wrote:
The gap at the top is widening. Simba on the prowl

And in the Q3 results they haven't included NBK
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obiero
#2067 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2019 8:42:52 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
The gap at the top is widening. Simba on the prowl

And in the Q3 results they haven't included NBK

Exactly! KES 300m on top for full year PBT, then next year will be full amalgamation of the reporting. A jaggernaut with projected FY PBT of KES 37B

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#2068 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2019 9:48:01 AM
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obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q3 2019, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 26.8 Actual 27.1
EQTY 25.1 Actual 24.78
COOP 15.5 Actual 15.454
NCBA 10.6
SCBK 10.1
I&M 9.1
BBK 9.1
STANB 9
DTB 8.8
HFCK 0.012


Coop bank 15.454bn
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#2069 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:10:00 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
The gap at the top is widening. Simba on the prowl

Told you after release of Q1 results when Equity bank was ahead that KCB will outpace them in subsequent quarters

Hare vs Tortoise?

Oigara wants to leave with a huge payday in 2-3 years.
JM ako pale until 2040 Laughing out loudly

As Munger/Buffett said, this is a marathon not a sprint.

Good luck to all.


KCB Bank kenya makes more profits than the whole of Equity group.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#2070 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2019 5:27:53 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
The gap at the top is widening. Simba on the prowl

Told you after release of Q1 results when Equity bank was ahead that KCB will outpace them in subsequent quarters

Hare vs Tortoise?

Oigara wants to leave with a huge payday in 2-3 years.
JM ako pale until 2040 Laughing out loudly

As Munger/Buffett said, this is a marathon not a sprint.

Good luck to all.


KCB Bank kenya makes more profits than the whole of Equity group.

100% Irrelevant. IRRELEVANT. Shame on you

What you are buying are shares e.g 100 shares.
There's a price per share.
It's entirely irrelevant what the firm makes in profit vs what your share(s) makes aka EPS. The higher the growth in EPS the better for your shares.

Then there is the share price. There's Price/Earnings Ratio. And a Price/Book Ratio. The lower the PER and PB when you buy your shares then the better it is. The higher the expansion of the PER and PB of your shares in subsequent years is better for you.

Similar argument for dividends.

The share price in x (5,8,10, etc) years + dividends received (adjusted for inflation) - share price in Nov 2019 = Total Return per Share.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#2071 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2019 6:28:37 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
The gap at the top is widening. Simba on the prowl

Told you after release of Q1 results when Equity bank was ahead that KCB will outpace them in subsequent quarters

Hare vs Tortoise?

Oigara wants to leave with a huge payday in 2-3 years.
JM ako pale until 2040 Laughing out loudly

As Munger/Buffett said, this is a marathon not a sprint.

Good luck to all.


KCB Bank kenya makes more profits than the whole of Equity group.

100% Irrelevant. IRRELEVANT. Shame on you

What you are buying are shares e.g 100 shares.
There's a price per share.
It's entirely irrelevant what the firm makes in profit vs what your share(s) makes aka EPS. The higher the growth in EPS the better for your shares.

Then there is the share price. There's Price/Earnings Ratio. And a Price/Book Ratio. The lower the PER and PB when you buy your shares then the better it is. The higher the expansion of the PER and PB of your shares in subsequent years is better for you.

Similar argument for dividends.

The share price in x (5,8,10, etc) years + dividends received (adjusted for inflation) - share price in Nov 2019 = Total Return per Share.

Kizungu mingi! You are implying EBL has paid out more in dividend than KCB over the past 10 years? Lies

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#2072 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2019 7:13:25 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
The gap at the top is widening. Simba on the prowl

Told you after release of Q1 results when Equity bank was ahead that KCB will outpace them in subsequent quarters

Hare vs Tortoise?

Oigara wants to leave with a huge payday in 2-3 years.
JM ako pale until 2040 Laughing out loudly

As Munger/Buffett said, this is a marathon not a sprint.

Good luck to all.


KCB Bank kenya makes more profits than the whole of Equity group.

100% Irrelevant. IRRELEVANT. Shame on you

What you are buying are shares e.g 100 shares.
There's a price per share.
It's entirely irrelevant what the firm makes in profit vs what your share(s) makes aka EPS. The higher the growth in EPS the better for your shares.

Then there is the share price. There's Price/Earnings Ratio. And a Price/Book Ratio. The lower the PER and PB when you buy your shares then the better it is. The higher the expansion of the PER and PB of your shares in subsequent years is better for you.

Similar argument for dividends.

The share price in x (5,8,10, etc) years + dividends received (adjusted for inflation) - share price in Nov 2019 = Total Return per Share.

Kizungu mingi! You are implying EBL has paid out more in dividend than KCB over the past 10 years? Lies


The truth hurts vvs
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#2073 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2019 9:59:40 AM
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SBM Bank Kenya Q3 Earnings Dip 64% to KSh 647 Million
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#2074 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2019 10:56:22 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
The gap at the top is widening. Simba on the prowl

Told you after release of Q1 results when Equity bank was ahead that KCB will outpace them in subsequent quarters

Hare vs Tortoise?

Oigara wants to leave with a huge payday in 2-3 years.
JM ako pale until 2040 Laughing out loudly

As Munger/Buffett said, this is a marathon not a sprint.

Good luck to all.


KCB Bank kenya makes more profits than the whole of Equity group.

100% Irrelevant. IRRELEVANT. Shame on you

What you are buying are shares e.g 100 shares.
There's a price per share.
It's entirely irrelevant what the firm makes in profit vs what your share(s) makes aka EPS. The higher the growth in EPS the better for your shares.

Then there is the share price. There's Price/Earnings Ratio. And a Price/Book Ratio. The lower the PER and PB when you buy your shares then the better it is. The higher the expansion of the PER and PB of your shares in subsequent years is better for you.

Similar argument for dividends.

The share price in x (5,8,10, etc) years + dividends received (adjusted for inflation) - share price in Nov 2019 = Total Return per Share.

Kizungu mingi! You are implying EBL has paid out more in dividend than KCB over the past 10 years? Lies


The truth hurts vvs


Let's start with @Obiero who is an expert at irrelevance and doesn't pay his debts.
Please show me where I have said implied that Equity has paid out more in dividends than KCB in the past 10 years?

@Ericsson - I am sorry, well not really, you felt hurt about the mazematics.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#2075 Posted : Wednesday, November 20, 2019 10:45:00 AM
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Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q3 2019, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 26.8 Actual 27.1
EQTY 25.1 Actual 24.78
COOP 15.5 Actual 15.454
NCBA 10.6
SCBK 10.1 Actual 9.136
I&M 9.1
BBK 9.1
STANB 9
DTB 8.8
HFCK 0.012
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#2076 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:37:16 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q3 2019, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 26.8 Actual 27.1
EQTY 25.1 Actual 24.78
COOP 15.5 Actual 15.454
NCBA 10.6
SCBK 10.1 Actual 9.136
I&M 9.1
BBK 9.1 Actual 9.09bn
STANB 9
DTB 8.8
HFCK 0.012

Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#2077 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:48:15 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q3 2019, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 26.8 Actual 27.1
EQTY 25.1 Actual 24.78
COOP 15.5 Actual 15.454
NCBA 10.6
SCBK 10.1 Actual 9.136
I&M 9.1
BBK 9.1 Actual 9.09bn
STANB 9
DTB 8.8
HFCK 0.012


Thanks Ericsson. HF iongee

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#2078 Posted : Friday, November 22, 2019 6:07:21 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
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Location: NAIROBI
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q3 2019, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 26.8 Actual 27.1
EQTY 25.1 Actual 24.78
COOP 15.5 Actual 15.454
NCBA 10.6 Actual 11.3
SCBK 10.1 Actual 9.136
I&M 9.1
BBK 9.1 Actual 9.09
STANB 9
DTB 8.8
HFCK 0.012
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#2079 Posted : Friday, November 22, 2019 6:08:25 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q3 2019, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 26.8 Actual 27.1
EQTY 25.1 Actual 24.78
COOP 15.5 Actual 15.454
NCBA 10.6
SCBK 10.1 Actual 9.136
I&M 9.1
BBK 9.1 Actual 9.09bn
STANB 9
DTB 8.8
HFCK 0.012


Thanks Ericsson. HF iongee

Not yet released
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#2080 Posted : Monday, November 25, 2019 9:24:40 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q3 2019, PBT figures in KES B:
KCB 26.8 Actual 27.1
EQTY 25.1 Actual 24.78
COOP 15.5 Actual 15.454
NCBA 10.6 Actual 11.3
SCBK 10.1 Actual 9.136
I&M 9.1
BBK 9.1 Actual 9.09
STANB 9
DTB 8.8 Actual 8.67
HFCK 0.012

Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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