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NSE 2010 1ST HALF PERFORMANCE
PKoli
#21 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:28:50 PM
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@Sasha
In any organisation change is never taken lightly however good the intentions are. It always faces a lot of resistance. I think CiC is trying, the CEO looks a hard working guy and their marketing team have done a nice job in bringing the visibility of the organisation.
They are looking for business beyond the cooperative movement.
Are you among the top ten class b shareholders?
Sasha
#22 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:37:19 PM
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@PKoli Laughing out loudly ! It is my ambition Pray but no! Maybe I misled you by saying 'nice chunk'!
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#23 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:42:34 PM
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@Sasha
I thought you had bought some 30,000 shares! Class B shareholders according to the latest annual report have shares from 22000 to 40000. So you could easily be in the league. My intention is own 0.5% of the company i.e about 100,000 shares!
Sasha
#24 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:35:19 PM
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I have a modest 8000 class b which I considered 'nice'! Still looking for another 7000 then I will sit back and wait.
PKoli
#25 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:43:35 PM
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@Sasha
That is a good achievement.

I started with 10,000 which I bought during private placement. I have since added 10,000. I am working towards adding further 10,000, then I will wait till listing.

Condidering that there are only 21.5m shares, I see a possibility of shares split, may be 20 for every one held.

Happy hunting
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#26 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:16:37 PM
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paper profits aint real profits unless u have them mkononi...the next bear is around 1 yr ahead...na watu watanyolewa tena clean.
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#27 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:43:43 PM
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@kondoo- tuko pamoja. 12 months holding period then divert to cash and wait for maendeleo...
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dave.kim
#28 Posted : Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:30:10 PM
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Iam up 70%, mostly from SCOM, SCAN, MSC, KQ & EQTY. Seems KQ is regressing but will wait till I identify other opportunities.[/quote]

@Gatheuzi.kudos man on ur first half picks.u must be laughing all the way to the bank
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#29 Posted : Friday, July 02, 2010 3:07:25 PM
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i rebalanced my portfolio after a spectacular Q1 but Q2 hasnt brought much fortunes.... though i'm pretty confident with my rebalancing and i'm sure Q3 and 4 will shine on the likes of MSC, KK, Safcom, and JHL...

if this rebalancing doesnt work then i'm doomed for 2010 because trading puts food on the table
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#30 Posted : Friday, July 02, 2010 3:33:37 PM
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guru267 wrote:
..i'm sure Q3 and 4 will shine on the likes of MSC, KK, Safcom, and JHL..


considering bulk of investors are "hanging" erroneously on the interim 500% growth in earnings to translate to the final year..is it possible that the actual growth..less than 30% will cause aversion to the counter? ..considering that price rally has stalled almost completely.. Think

May 31st to date..price change is +0.39%
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PKoli
#31 Posted : Friday, July 02, 2010 3:41:00 PM
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@Proverb,

The 500% will not be replicated in any other quarter, otherwise the stock will jump to 40 bob. A growth of the bottom line for MSC of 35% or thereabouts in FY results will be sufficient given the other ventures they have embarked on. More important will be if they succeed in the Tana project.

Investors will be looking into the future!
guru267
#32 Posted : Friday, July 02, 2010 3:42:33 PM
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ProverB wrote:
considering bulk of investors are "hanging" erroneously on the interim 500% growth in earnings to translate to the final year..is it possible that the actual growth..less than 30% will cause aversion to the counter? ..considering that price rally has stalled almost completely.. Think


this usually happens to counters like mumias... when the known remains unknown investors tend to remain shy.... but if these guys announce a 3billion PBT and a dividend of 60cents like i'm EXPECTING then the share price should rally to a high of 20bob
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ProverB
#33 Posted : Friday, July 02, 2010 3:46:17 PM
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guru267 wrote:
when the known remains unknown investors tend to remain shy.... but if these guys announce a 3billion PBT and a dividend of 60cents like i'm EXPECTING then the share price should rally to a high of 20bob


would u suggest locking in profits especialy if accumulated below 7Bob? ..i don't do well with uncertainty.. smile smile
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Gatheuzi
#34 Posted : Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:28:22 PM
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dave.kim wrote:



Iam up 70%, mostly from SCOM, SCAN, MSC, KQ & EQTY. Seems KQ is regressing but will wait till I identify other opportunities.[/quote]

@Gatheuzi.kudos man on ur first half picks.u must be laughing all the way to the bank[/quote]


@ dave.kim,

I am still holding them. The challenge is to get picks that will conserve the value or produce appreciation in the final half of this year. The best decision I made was to lock gains in SCOM and took all the proceeds to SCAN which propelled by about 48%.
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#35 Posted : Saturday, July 03, 2010 9:37:43 PM
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@ proverb . Mumias is a classic growth stock. Dnt be blinded by it having no price change in the last few months. Coz even in the next two months there still will be no price change. BUT i expect the price to move up around september when their full year results are due. And shrewd investors start factoring in the profits. As a technical analyst i am excited that its trading good volumes but its price isnt changing because its accumulating. Thus when it starts to go up ksh 20.00 is my price target. @ guru. As far as TA is concerned u ar on the right boat with this one. You can even add more mumias sugar shares in the silence of the market before investors start factorin in the profits.
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#36 Posted : Saturday, July 03, 2010 9:51:02 PM
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@PKoli & @Sasha,
Interesting insight... but they have always publicly stated they will look at NSE in 2013. The challenge will be to convince the the board of old conservative wazees. Has this changed - the AGM passed and nothing special was passed to this regard (and would have needed it in the May AGM if they were to go public next year)?

Rights Issue could also be a likely route... though must add that listing would be good for them as it will extend their brand.

youcan'tstopusnow
#37 Posted : Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:20:12 PM
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ProverB wrote:
guru267 wrote:
when the known remains unknown investors tend to remain shy.... but if these guys announce a 3billion PBT and a dividend of 60cents like i'm EXPECTING then the share price should rally to a high of 20bob

would u suggest locking in profits especialy if accumulated below 7Bob? ..i don't do well with uncertainty.. smile smile

I would recommend you hold until after results are out. My average buy is around 8.5 bob (still adding) and I'll be holding. In their last annual report, they indicated that they plan on acquiring sugar companies across the region. This is bound to push the price up.
Plus they got a better deal from KPLC in their second half of the year.
And If you are REALLY long term, by December 2011, ethanol will be flowing out of their factories.
Then there is the TARDA project
They also trade carbon credits.
I guess what I'm saying is that this company is a GEM, especially for someone who bought at 7 bob.
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PKoli
#38 Posted : Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:57:45 PM
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@ekijana,
True they would require AGM although few major shareholders can conscent to this due this. I agree about the Wazees being a little conservative, but Kuria the CEO has been a reformist. I think there is some bit of restructuring required before they list. Moreover, they want the Company to have proper visibility and reasonable intrinsic value before it is listed
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#39 Posted : Sunday, July 04, 2010 1:13:22 AM
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Mumias is no gem...its Junk...@ 13 bob its fully priced...dont forget Comesa Sugar hits the Kenyan Market soon...mumias wont be able to compete the other comesa countries subsidise their farmers making the cost of raw materials cheaper...
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#40 Posted : Sunday, July 04, 2010 11:01:13 AM
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qw25041985 wrote:
@ proverb . Mumias is a classic growth stock. Dnt be blinded by it having no price change in the last few months. Coz even in the next two months there still will be no price change. BUT i expect the price to move up around september when their full year results are due. And shrewd investors start factoring in the profits. As a technical analyst i ...

@qw, technical investor? With due respect i thought TA is all about trends, short, medium, long-term, charts and patterns. What do your charts really say?
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