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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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I have noticed a trend when you ask to lipa-na-mpesa you are asked to either send the money to the shopowners line or in case of some pubs you are asked to withdraw money to an agent number provided by the waiter/bar tender.Funny enough is that these shops and pubs have paybill numbers. And i am speaking about high-end shops huko Sarit, Garden city, Two-rivers etc owned by people of other races considered superior to Africans but not superior to Wazungus(i speak in code). The pubs that are asking patrons to send money to an agent number as if they are withdrawing money have names of a noisy bird and are usually found at petrol stations formerly owned(minority owned) by @VVS and @Marehemu Totalman a.k.a The bull of Auckland. Can Safaricom, KRA and DCI investigate this? Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/18/2019 Posts: 185 Location: kenya
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Fyatu wrote:I have noticed a trend when you ask to lipa-na-mpesa you are asked to either send the money to the shopowners line or in case of some pubs you are asked to withdraw money to an agent number provided by the waiter/bar tender.Funny enough is that these shops and pubs have paybill numbers.
And i am speaking about high-end shops huko Sarit, Garden city, Two-rivers etc owned by people of other races considered superior to Africans but not superior to Wazungus(i speak in code).
The pubs that are asking patrons to send money to an agent number as if they are withdrawing money have names of a noisy bird and are usually found at petrol stations formerly owned(minority owned) by @VVS and @Marehemu Totalman a.k.a The bull of Auckland.
Can Safaricom, KRA and DCI investigate this? Hehehe they are very notorious for this. Watu walipe ushuru. KRA have a hotline you can snitch on 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Fyatu wrote:I have noticed a trend when you ask to lipa-na-mpesa you are asked to either send the money to the shopowners line or in case of some pubs you are asked to withdraw money to an agent number provided by the waiter/bar tender.Funny enough is that these shops and pubs have paybill numbers.
And i am speaking about high-end shops huko Sarit, Garden city, Two-rivers etc owned by people of other races considered superior to Africans but not superior to Wazungus(i speak in code).
The pubs that are asking patrons to send money to an agent number as if they are withdrawing money have names of a noisy bird and are usually found at petrol stations formerly owned(minority owned) by @VVS and @Marehemu Totalman a.k.a The bull of Auckland.
Can Safaricom, KRA and DCI investigate this? How do you know they don't pay tax? The only way to avoid taxes is to go 100% cash, but even that is not fool proof. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 468 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:Fyatu wrote:I have noticed a trend when you ask to lipa-na-mpesa you are asked to either send the money to the shopowners line or in case of some pubs you are asked to withdraw money to an agent number provided by the waiter/bar tender.Funny enough is that these shops and pubs have paybill numbers.
And i am speaking about high-end shops huko Sarit, Garden city, Two-rivers etc owned by people of other races considered superior to Africans but not superior to Wazungus(i speak in code).
The pubs that are asking patrons to send money to an agent number as if they are withdrawing money have names of a noisy bird and are usually found at petrol stations formerly owned(minority owned) by @VVS and @Marehemu Totalman a.k.a The bull of Auckland.
Can Safaricom, KRA and DCI investigate this? How do you know they don't pay tax? The only way to avoid taxes is to go 100% cash, but even that is not fool proof. I know of a small petrol stations owner who has registered as an M-PESA agent so basically when you pay by withdrawing from M-PESA Agent you are paying Him. Could it be a way of escaping Merchant fees charged by Safaricom on Paybill/Buy Goods and also gaining from M-PESA Agent fees? ....does KRA have access to M-PESA transactions? recent media reports of KRA wanting M-PESA transaction data seems to point that they don't have it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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sparkly wrote:Fyatu wrote:I have noticed a trend when you ask to lipa-na-mpesa you are asked to either send the money to the shopowners line or in case of some pubs you are asked to withdraw money to an agent number provided by the waiter/bar tender.Funny enough is that these shops and pubs have paybill numbers.
And i am speaking about high-end shops huko Sarit, Garden city, Two-rivers etc owned by people of other races considered superior to Africans but not superior to Wazungus(i speak in code).
The pubs that are asking patrons to send money to an agent number as if they are withdrawing money have names of a noisy bird and are usually found at petrol stations formerly owned(minority owned) by @VVS and @Marehemu Totalman a.k.a The bull of Auckland.
Can Safaricom, KRA and DCI investigate this? How do you know they don't pay tax? The only way to avoid taxes is to go 100% cash, but even that is not fool proof. Hao majamaa huwa hawalipi ushuru. Hatuwezi wabebea mzigo...Yaani tulipe ushuru we Kenyans halafu wao wapate good services from the government for free. No way. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,350 Location: Nairobi
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Fyatu wrote:I have noticed a trend when you ask to lipa-na-mpesa you are asked to either send the money to the shopowners line or in case of some pubs you are asked to withdraw money to an agent number provided by the waiter/bar tender.Funny enough is that these shops and pubs have paybill numbers.
And i am speaking about high-end shops huko Sarit, Garden city, Two-rivers etc owned by people of other races considered superior to Africans but not superior to Wazungus(i speak in code).
The pubs that are asking patrons to send money to an agent number as if they are withdrawing money have names of a noisy bird and are usually found at petrol stations formerly owned(minority owned) by @VVS and @Marehemu Totalman a.k.a The bull of Auckland.
Can Safaricom, KRA and DCI investigate this? I closed the books on KK and ARM a long time ago so where is the shoe still pinching you? Kenya: Country's Debt and Budget Deficit a Spending, Not Revenue, Problem https://allafrica.com/stories/201906170102.html
You should also "ongeza ya kutoa" when you pay by M-Pesa. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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sparkly wrote:Fyatu wrote:I have noticed a trend when you ask to lipa-na-mpesa you are asked to either send the money to the shopowners line or in case of some pubs you are asked to withdraw money to an agent number provided by the waiter/bar tender.Funny enough is that these shops and pubs have paybill numbers.
And i am speaking about high-end shops huko Sarit, Garden city, Two-rivers etc owned by people of other races considered superior to Africans but not superior to Wazungus(i speak in code).
The pubs that are asking patrons to send money to an agent number as if they are withdrawing money have names of a noisy bird and are usually found at petrol stations formerly owned(minority owned) by @VVS and @Marehemu Totalman a.k.a The bull of Auckland.
Can Safaricom, KRA and DCI investigate this? How do you know they don't pay tax? The only way to avoid taxes is to go 100% cash, but even that is not fool proof. It is something i found irregular and smelled of corruption and tax evasion.In the USA they usually say... If you see something, say something..... Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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Is it still mandatory to have ETR machines in business premises? I once(sio ktambo) visited Voi town and found that almost all businesses(e.g., butcheries, bars and restaurants, lodging and accommodation) offered ETR receipts. Could Voi be the most tax compliant town in Kenya? Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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KRA are trying, my account at Memba was blocked in June until i had to take my KRA PIN number. Wonder how this will help in compliance? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Fyatu wrote:sparkly wrote:Fyatu wrote:I have noticed a trend when you ask to lipa-na-mpesa you are asked to either send the money to the shopowners line or in case of some pubs you are asked to withdraw money to an agent number provided by the waiter/bar tender.Funny enough is that these shops and pubs have paybill numbers.
And i am speaking about high-end shops huko Sarit, Garden city, Two-rivers etc owned by people of other races considered superior to Africans but not superior to Wazungus(i speak in code).
The pubs that are asking patrons to send money to an agent number as if they are withdrawing money have names of a noisy bird and are usually found at petrol stations formerly owned(minority owned) by @VVS and @Marehemu Totalman a.k.a The bull of Auckland.
Can Safaricom, KRA and DCI investigate this? How do you know they don't pay tax? The only way to avoid taxes is to go 100% cash, but even that is not fool proof. It is something i found irregular and smelled of corruption and tax evasion.In the USA they usually say... If you see something, say something..... This is Kenya. It is for everyone to assess their own taxes and for KRA confirm compliance. There is no prescribed method of collecting sales as long as prescribed records are kept, taxes computed, returns done and taxes paid. Life is short. Live passionately.
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