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Housing Finance: HFCK a diamond in the rough
obiero
#1961 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2019 12:57:48 PM
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HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
cyruskulei
#1962 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2019 1:06:03 PM
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obiero wrote:



This monkey will stop @10bob.

Its either you are in or out trying to chase.
Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

Fyatu
#1963 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2019 1:11:32 PM
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Joined: 1/20/2011
Posts: 1,820
Location: Nakuru
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:



This monkey will stop @10bob.

Its either you are in or out trying to chase.



I am cashing-out at 100% return.
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
cyruskulei
#1964 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2019 1:20:26 PM
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Joined: 3/9/2010
Posts: 320
Location: kenya
Fyatu wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:



This monkey will stop @10bob.

Its either you are in or out trying to chase.



I am cashing-out at 100% return.



Someone here said " The casino can make you a millionaire or break you"
Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

obiero
#1965 Posted : Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:33:29 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,517
Location: nairobi
cyruskulei wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:



This monkey will stop @10bob.

Its either you are in or out trying to chase.



I am cashing-out at 100% return.



Someone here said " The casino can make you a millionaire or break you"

This thing could go all the way to KES 18 if a profit is posted

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#1966 Posted : Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:29:19 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,517
Location: nairobi
snifadog wrote:
obiero wrote:
snifadog wrote:
obiero wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.

Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.
l

Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?

Can the DTB & HFCK culture easily mesh?
SBM is still digesting Chase. Does it really want to take another bank with dirty books? Unless it is a 100% buyout, why deal with 1000s of shareholders?


Acquisition of HFCK will most likely be a 100% buyout that will lead to delisting

It doesn’t seem like a fully distressed bank going by its bond repayment record


There are lots of possibilities on this counter. Remember they created recently 500m new ordinary shares. They could be up for grabs to the best investor.

A rally building up. If only they report a profit in Q3 then sky is the new floor


@obiero, your obsession with junk counters is worrying. Have you not learnt anything from KQ? Steer clear of zombies on the NSE

I don’t have much to learn but to teach. Turnaround stocks make some people wealthy. It has happened in Kenya, in Africa, globally. It’s not a strategy for everyone, so I excuse your tantrum

Hapo ndio unakosea bwana

Lets take a pause and ask ourselves, I called out the bottom of the share weeks ago based on traces of information from the exchange bar. The same has gone on a rally and stands at KES 7.30 and some people here still imagine that I can be taught a lot about stock trends. Give me a break!

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#1967 Posted : Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:31:20 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,517
Location: nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
KES 10 is imminent.. The exchange bar has caught wind of successful NPL recoveries that have tilted the sails back up



In a bear market there is money to be made

High risk, high return. This thing was circa 3 bob less than 6 weeks ago


Trap, trap, trap ......

myopia

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#1968 Posted : Saturday, September 28, 2019 10:12:54 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,103
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
snifadog wrote:
obiero wrote:
snifadog wrote:
obiero wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.

Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.
l

Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?

Can the DTB & HFCK culture easily mesh?
SBM is still digesting Chase. Does it really want to take another bank with dirty books? Unless it is a 100% buyout, why deal with 1000s of shareholders?


Acquisition of HFCK will most likely be a 100% buyout that will lead to delisting

It doesn’t seem like a fully distressed bank going by its bond repayment record


There are lots of possibilities on this counter. Remember they created recently 500m new ordinary shares. They could be up for grabs to the best investor.

A rally building up. If only they report a profit in Q3 then sky is the new floor


@obiero, your obsession with junk counters is worrying. Have you not learnt anything from KQ? Steer clear of zombies on the NSE

I don’t have much to learn but to teach. Turnaround stocks make some people wealthy. It has happened in Kenya, in Africa, globally. It’s not a strategy for everyone, so I excuse your tantrum

Hapo ndio unakosea bwana

Lets take a pause and ask ourselves, I called out the bottom of the share weeks ago based on traces of information from the exchange bar. The same has gone on a rally and stands at KES 7.30 and some people here still imagine that I can be taught a lot about stock trends. Give me a break!
Good for you.
COOP 5,500; KCB 7,500; KNRE 100,000; KQ 221,100 - Where's HFCK in this list? Glad to see you have KenRe to counterbalance KQ.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#1969 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2019 5:03:19 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,517
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
snifadog wrote:
obiero wrote:
snifadog wrote:
obiero wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
[quote=Angelica _ann]Looks like some good work going on after Ireri left.


HF reduces bad loans by Sh2bn in 6 months


https://www.businessdail...62568-3lx2lp/index.html[/quote]


Demand is building up on this counter. I dont know if there are some good news coming? Any one with info


Cleaning up the loan book etc?

Looks to me like preparation for a sale or merger.

HFCK is a good candidate, say for large retail bank looking to beef up its mortgage function.

Meba are you listening?

Meba not interested,was once there.
Co-op might be a good candidate to snap it.

Coop, with its governance and management structure, don't think would go for mortgage business full throttle. They are abit conservative to me , bordering on docile. They seem to be in some comfort zone. Of course Giddi's vision prevails x100.
l

Then it is likely to be an overseas bank, ala SBM. With licence issuing frozen, this is the only way for a multinational bank to enter the local market.

Unless Diamond Trust finds the appetite?

Can the DTB & HFCK culture easily mesh?
SBM is still digesting Chase. Does it really want to take another bank with dirty books? Unless it is a 100% buyout, why deal with 1000s of shareholders?


Acquisition of HFCK will most likely be a 100% buyout that will lead to delisting

It doesn’t seem like a fully distressed bank going by its bond repayment record


There are lots of possibilities on this counter. Remember they created recently 500m new ordinary shares. They could be up for grabs to the best investor.

A rally building up. If only they report a profit in Q3 then sky is the new floor


@obiero, your obsession with junk counters is worrying. Have you not learnt anything from KQ? Steer clear of zombies on the NSE

I don’t have much to learn but to teach. Turnaround stocks make some people wealthy. It has happened in Kenya, in Africa, globally. It’s not a strategy for everyone, so I excuse your tantrum

Hapo ndio unakosea bwana

Lets take a pause and ask ourselves, I called out the bottom of the share weeks ago based on traces of information from the exchange bar. The same has gone on a rally and stands at KES 7.30 and some people here still imagine that I can be taught a lot about stock trends. Give me a break!
Good for you.
COOP 5,500; KCB 7,500; KNRE 100,000; KQ 221,100 - Where's HFCK in this list? Glad to see you have KenRe to counterbalance KQ.

I said it right here that I will purchase only on confirming it's return to profitability.. Even KES 10 is cheap. It could retrace KES 18

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#1970 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2019 10:17:37 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,517
Location: nairobi
Rally to proceed uninterrupted into October

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#1971 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2019 11:45:20 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,517
Location: nairobi
At KES 10, the weak handed must offload.. About 4.9m shares bought by one individual in a dash of brilliance

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#1972 Posted : Monday, September 30, 2019 10:07:32 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
At KES 10, the weak handed must offload.. About 4.9m shares bought by one individual in a dash of brilliance



Rally has come to a halt,counter has opened the day down 22 cents
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#1973 Posted : Monday, September 30, 2019 10:42:43 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,517
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
At KES 10, the weak handed must offload.. About 4.9m shares bought by one individual in a dash of brilliance



Rally has come to a halt,counter has opened the day down 22 cents

Has trading stopped?

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#1974 Posted : Monday, September 30, 2019 10:49:02 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
At KES 10, the weak handed must offload.. About 4.9m shares bought by one individual in a dash of brilliance



Rally has come to a halt,counter has opened the day down 22 cents

Has trading stopped?


Let's see how share price will behave this week.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Spikes
#1975 Posted : Monday, September 30, 2019 10:59:26 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
At KES 10, the weak handed must offload.. About 4.9m shares bought by one individual in a dash of brilliance



Rally has come to a halt,counter has opened the day down 22 cents

Has trading stopped?


Lat's see how share price will behave this week.


That is the end of the rally right now. Wachana na hizo excitement za @obiero bila technical analysis.
It will come down with the same speed it went up.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#1976 Posted : Monday, September 30, 2019 1:39:10 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,517
Location: nairobi
Spikes wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
At KES 10, the weak handed must offload.. About 4.9m shares bought by one individual in a dash of brilliance



Rally has come to a halt,counter has opened the day down 22 cents

Has trading stopped?


Lat's see how share price will behave this week.


That is the end of the rally right now. Wachana na hizo excitement za @obiero bila technical analysis.
It will come down with the same speed it went up.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Nimeona umeweka technical analysis mzuri sana in support of your view. Jinga kabisa

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
cyruskulei
#1977 Posted : Monday, September 30, 2019 1:45:06 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 3/9/2010
Posts: 320
Location: kenya
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
At KES 10, the weak handed must offload.. About 4.9m shares bought by one individual in a dash of brilliance



Rally has come to a halt,counter has opened the day down 22 cents

Has trading stopped?


Lat's see how share price will behave this week.


That is the end of the rally right now. Wachana na hizo excitement za @obiero bila technical analysis.
It will come down with the same speed it went up.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Nimeona umeweka technical analysis mzuri sana in support of your view. Jinga kabisa



By Friday, it be back to 3.5bob.

Watch and learn
Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

obiero
#1978 Posted : Monday, September 30, 2019 1:52:42 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,517
Location: nairobi
cyruskulei wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
At KES 10, the weak handed must offload.. About 4.9m shares bought by one individual in a dash of brilliance



Rally has come to a halt,counter has opened the day down 22 cents

Has trading stopped?


Lat's see how share price will behave this week.


That is the end of the rally right now. Wachana na hizo excitement za @obiero bila technical analysis.
It will come down with the same speed it went up.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Nimeona umeweka technical analysis mzuri sana in support of your view. Jinga kabisa



By Friday, it be back to 3.5bob.

Watch and learn

We now await @cyruskuleo KES 3.50 forecast to showcase

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Fyatu
#1979 Posted : Monday, September 30, 2019 8:30:27 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 1/20/2011
Posts: 1,820
Location: Nakuru
I dondokad(alighted) from this counter like a kange(konkodi) on a speeding number. 58 matatu/ganya circa 1996.Selling price 7.30 ABP 3.92.
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
obiero
#1980 Posted : Monday, September 30, 2019 8:40:08 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,517
Location: nairobi
Fyatu wrote:
I dondokad(alighted) from this counter like a kange(konkodi) on a speeding number. 58 matatu/ganya circa 1996.Selling price 7.30 ABP 3.92.

You sold yourself short, but life goes on

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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