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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:NBK acquisition will weaken KCB Group’s financials in the short term – Moody’sMoody’s Investors Service says that the acquisition of the National Bank of Kenya (NBK) would be an immediate credit negative for KCB Group but profitability and funding will strengthen over the next 2-3 years, outweighing these short term effects. Short term weakened financialIn the short term, the acquisition weakens KCB because NBK has a high stock of problem loans making NBK less solvent than KCB Group. KCB Group will handle the bad loans through write-offs and increase provisioning to reduce risks. In addition, NBK’s low capitalization will lead to a slight deterioration of KCB Group’s capital adequacy albeit above regulatory requirements and that of global peers. In this case, KCB Group shareholders’ pro forma equity to total asset ratio will decline to 15.0% from 15.9% as of 31 December 2018. Long-term profitability and fundingHowever, KCB Group will experience gradually stronger profitability and funding over the next two to three years. First, KCB will integrate Sh58 billion government deposits on NBK’s balance sheet thus the combined entity will hold around 62% of Kenya’s government deposits. Government deposits are cheaper thus will reduce KCB Group’s overall funding costs. Moreover, the deposits have high net interest margins thus will improve profitability. Furthermore, KCB Group will diversify its revenue base by generating additional transactional revenue by leveraging on NBK’s large government-related business flows. There is an expectation of greater operational efficiency once the merged entity integrates and rationalizes the various operating channels. A gain for Kenyan banking sector
Finally, the banking sector is set to gain from the acquisition by removing a distressed bank through consolidation leading to stability in an overbanked system. KCB Group assets will grow to around KSh830 billion from the Ksh622 billion at year-end 2018. This will consolidate KCB’s leading position in the banking sector with an asset-based combined market share of more than 16%, from 14% as of December 2018. https://kenyanwallstreet...-the-short-term-moodys/ GoK should move most of its deposits to CBK. Why borrow using T-Bills and leave the cash with banks? You expect, for example, a road project by KENHA in Loitoktok to be administered via a CBK account and not a commercial bank? Contractors certificate based payment to be done by CBK minus KENHA mandated signatories on the ground? What would such a scenario imply on the liquidity ratio of most Kenyan banks? A commercial bank can do all you say, with KenHa approving the payment, and then submit a "debit note" to CBK for payment/credit in the Clearing House. CBK then credits the bank eg KCB for the amount of the debit note AFTER the bank eg KCB and KENHA have completed their approvals and paid the contractor. The bank/KCB can charge a fee for the service to KENHA. So far CBK gas not bounced cheques. You make it sound simple but you know the system is not as effective as you want it to be HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:NBK acquisition will weaken KCB Group’s financials in the short term – Moody’sMoody’s Investors Service says that the acquisition of the National Bank of Kenya (NBK) would be an immediate credit negative for KCB Group but profitability and funding will strengthen over the next 2-3 years, outweighing these short term effects. Short term weakened financialIn the short term, the acquisition weakens KCB because NBK has a high stock of problem loans making NBK less solvent than KCB Group. KCB Group will handle the bad loans through write-offs and increase provisioning to reduce risks. In addition, NBK’s low capitalization will lead to a slight deterioration of KCB Group’s capital adequacy albeit above regulatory requirements and that of global peers. In this case, KCB Group shareholders’ pro forma equity to total asset ratio will decline to 15.0% from 15.9% as of 31 December 2018. Long-term profitability and fundingHowever, KCB Group will experience gradually stronger profitability and funding over the next two to three years. First, KCB will integrate Sh58 billion government deposits on NBK’s balance sheet thus the combined entity will hold around 62% of Kenya’s government deposits. Government deposits are cheaper thus will reduce KCB Group’s overall funding costs. Moreover, the deposits have high net interest margins thus will improve profitability. Furthermore, KCB Group will diversify its revenue base by generating additional transactional revenue by leveraging on NBK’s large government-related business flows. There is an expectation of greater operational efficiency once the merged entity integrates and rationalizes the various operating channels. A gain for Kenyan banking sector
Finally, the banking sector is set to gain from the acquisition by removing a distressed bank through consolidation leading to stability in an overbanked system. KCB Group assets will grow to around KSh830 billion from the Ksh622 billion at year-end 2018. This will consolidate KCB’s leading position in the banking sector with an asset-based combined market share of more than 16%, from 14% as of December 2018. https://kenyanwallstreet...-the-short-term-moodys/ GoK should move most of its deposits to CBK. Why borrow using T-Bills and leave the cash with banks? You expect, for example, a road project by KENHA in Loitoktok to be administered via a CBK account and not a commercial bank? Contractors certificate based payment to be done by CBK minus KENHA mandated signatories on the ground? What would such a scenario imply on the liquidity ratio of most Kenyan banks? A commercial bank can do all you say, with KenHa approving the payment, and then submit a "debit note" to CBK for payment/credit in the Clearing House. CBK then credits the bank eg KCB for the amount of the debit note AFTER the bank eg KCB and KENHA have completed their approvals and paid the contractor. The bank/KCB can charge a fee for the service to KENHA. So far CBK gas not bounced cheques. You make it sound simple but you know the system is not as effective as you want it to be It can be simplified or made easier as CBK, KBA (banks) and GoK (KENHA) automate/digitize their payment processes. Listed firms pay dividends via CDSC/Registrars who use cheques, EFT/RTGS and M-Pesa. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,671 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:NBK acquisition will weaken KCB Group’s financials in the short term – Moody’sMoody’s Investors Service says that the acquisition of the National Bank of Kenya (NBK) would be an immediate credit negative for KCB Group but profitability and funding will strengthen over the next 2-3 years, outweighing these short term effects. Short term weakened financialIn the short term, the acquisition weakens KCB because NBK has a high stock of problem loans making NBK less solvent than KCB Group. KCB Group will handle the bad loans through write-offs and increase provisioning to reduce risks. In addition, NBK’s low capitalization will lead to a slight deterioration of KCB Group’s capital adequacy albeit above regulatory requirements and that of global peers. In this case, KCB Group shareholders’ pro forma equity to total asset ratio will decline to 15.0% from 15.9% as of 31 December 2018. Long-term profitability and fundingHowever, KCB Group will experience gradually stronger profitability and funding over the next two to three years. First, KCB will integrate Sh58 billion government deposits on NBK’s balance sheet thus the combined entity will hold around 62% of Kenya’s government deposits. Government deposits are cheaper thus will reduce KCB Group’s overall funding costs. Moreover, the deposits have high net interest margins thus will improve profitability. Furthermore, KCB Group will diversify its revenue base by generating additional transactional revenue by leveraging on NBK’s large government-related business flows. There is an expectation of greater operational efficiency once the merged entity integrates and rationalizes the various operating channels. A gain for Kenyan banking sector
Finally, the banking sector is set to gain from the acquisition by removing a distressed bank through consolidation leading to stability in an overbanked system. KCB Group assets will grow to around KSh830 billion from the Ksh622 billion at year-end 2018. This will consolidate KCB’s leading position in the banking sector with an asset-based combined market share of more than 16%, from 14% as of December 2018. https://kenyanwallstreet...-the-short-term-moodys/ GoK should move most of its deposits to CBK. Why borrow using T-Bills and leave the cash with banks? You expect, for example, a road project by KENHA in Loitoktok to be administered via a CBK account and not a commercial bank? Contractors certificate based payment to be done by CBK minus KENHA mandated signatories on the ground? What would such a scenario imply on the liquidity ratio of most Kenyan banks? A commercial bank can do all you say, with KenHa approving the payment, and then submit a "debit note" to CBK for payment/credit in the Clearing House. CBK then credits the bank eg KCB for the amount of the debit note AFTER the bank eg KCB and KENHA have completed their approvals and paid the contractor. The bank/KCB can charge a fee for the service to KENHA. So far CBK gas not bounced cheques. You make it sound simple but you know the system is not as effective as you want it to be It can be simplified or made easier as CBK, KBA (banks) and GoK (KENHA) automate/digitize their payment processes. Listed firms pay dividends via CDSC/Registrars who use cheques, EFT/RTGS and M-Pesa. Not happening any time soon Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:NBK acquisition will weaken KCB Group’s financials in the short term – Moody’sMoody’s Investors Service says that the acquisition of the National Bank of Kenya (NBK) would be an immediate credit negative for KCB Group but profitability and funding will strengthen over the next 2-3 years, outweighing these short term effects. Short term weakened financialIn the short term, the acquisition weakens KCB because NBK has a high stock of problem loans making NBK less solvent than KCB Group. KCB Group will handle the bad loans through write-offs and increase provisioning to reduce risks. In addition, NBK’s low capitalization will lead to a slight deterioration of KCB Group’s capital adequacy albeit above regulatory requirements and that of global peers. In this case, KCB Group shareholders’ pro forma equity to total asset ratio will decline to 15.0% from 15.9% as of 31 December 2018. Long-term profitability and fundingHowever, KCB Group will experience gradually stronger profitability and funding over the next two to three years. First, KCB will integrate Sh58 billion government deposits on NBK’s balance sheet thus the combined entity will hold around 62% of Kenya’s government deposits. Government deposits are cheaper thus will reduce KCB Group’s overall funding costs. Moreover, the deposits have high net interest margins thus will improve profitability. Furthermore, KCB Group will diversify its revenue base by generating additional transactional revenue by leveraging on NBK’s large government-related business flows. There is an expectation of greater operational efficiency once the merged entity integrates and rationalizes the various operating channels. A gain for Kenyan banking sector
Finally, the banking sector is set to gain from the acquisition by removing a distressed bank through consolidation leading to stability in an overbanked system. KCB Group assets will grow to around KSh830 billion from the Ksh622 billion at year-end 2018. This will consolidate KCB’s leading position in the banking sector with an asset-based combined market share of more than 16%, from 14% as of December 2018. https://kenyanwallstreet...-the-short-term-moodys/ GoK should move most of its deposits to CBK. Why borrow using T-Bills and leave the cash with banks? You expect, for example, a road project by KENHA in Loitoktok to be administered via a CBK account and not a commercial bank? Contractors certificate based payment to be done by CBK minus KENHA mandated signatories on the ground? What would such a scenario imply on the liquidity ratio of most Kenyan banks? A commercial bank can do all you say, with KenHa approving the payment, and then submit a "debit note" to CBK for payment/credit in the Clearing House. CBK then credits the bank eg KCB for the amount of the debit note AFTER the bank eg KCB and KENHA have completed their approvals and paid the contractor. The bank/KCB can charge a fee for the service to KENHA. So far CBK gas not bounced cheques. You make it sound simple but you know the system is not as effective as you want it to be It can be simplified or made easier as CBK, KBA (banks) and GoK (KENHA) automate/digitize their payment processes. Listed firms pay dividends via CDSC/Registrars who use cheques, EFT/RTGS and M-Pesa. Not happening any time soon There was a plan to bring the cash in-house to CBK. Sooner than later is better to reduce the burden on Taxpayers. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,671 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:NBK acquisition will weaken KCB Group’s financials in the short term – Moody’sMoody’s Investors Service says that the acquisition of the National Bank of Kenya (NBK) would be an immediate credit negative for KCB Group but profitability and funding will strengthen over the next 2-3 years, outweighing these short term effects. Short term weakened financialIn the short term, the acquisition weakens KCB because NBK has a high stock of problem loans making NBK less solvent than KCB Group. KCB Group will handle the bad loans through write-offs and increase provisioning to reduce risks. In addition, NBK’s low capitalization will lead to a slight deterioration of KCB Group’s capital adequacy albeit above regulatory requirements and that of global peers. In this case, KCB Group shareholders’ pro forma equity to total asset ratio will decline to 15.0% from 15.9% as of 31 December 2018. Long-term profitability and fundingHowever, KCB Group will experience gradually stronger profitability and funding over the next two to three years. First, KCB will integrate Sh58 billion government deposits on NBK’s balance sheet thus the combined entity will hold around 62% of Kenya’s government deposits. Government deposits are cheaper thus will reduce KCB Group’s overall funding costs. Moreover, the deposits have high net interest margins thus will improve profitability. Furthermore, KCB Group will diversify its revenue base by generating additional transactional revenue by leveraging on NBK’s large government-related business flows. There is an expectation of greater operational efficiency once the merged entity integrates and rationalizes the various operating channels. A gain for Kenyan banking sector
Finally, the banking sector is set to gain from the acquisition by removing a distressed bank through consolidation leading to stability in an overbanked system. KCB Group assets will grow to around KSh830 billion from the Ksh622 billion at year-end 2018. This will consolidate KCB’s leading position in the banking sector with an asset-based combined market share of more than 16%, from 14% as of December 2018. https://kenyanwallstreet...-the-short-term-moodys/ GoK should move most of its deposits to CBK. Why borrow using T-Bills and leave the cash with banks? You expect, for example, a road project by KENHA in Loitoktok to be administered via a CBK account and not a commercial bank? Contractors certificate based payment to be done by CBK minus KENHA mandated signatories on the ground? What would such a scenario imply on the liquidity ratio of most Kenyan banks? A commercial bank can do all you say, with KenHa approving the payment, and then submit a "debit note" to CBK for payment/credit in the Clearing House. CBK then credits the bank eg KCB for the amount of the debit note AFTER the bank eg KCB and KENHA have completed their approvals and paid the contractor. The bank/KCB can charge a fee for the service to KENHA. So far CBK gas not bounced cheques. You make it sound simple but you know the system is not as effective as you want it to be It can be simplified or made easier as CBK, KBA (banks) and GoK (KENHA) automate/digitize their payment processes. Listed firms pay dividends via CDSC/Registrars who use cheques, EFT/RTGS and M-Pesa. Not happening any time soon There was a plan to bring the cash in-house to CBK. Sooner than later is better to reduce the burden on Taxpayers. That is not the problem.Problem is government to manage cashflow better,reduce the bureaucratic processes in project implementations,not to budget for new projects before completing the previous ones. But these are done intentionally for corruption purposes. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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Regulator now bars KCB from sacking National Bank staff https://www.businessdail...266678-4f8gaq/index.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,671 Location: NAIROBI
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For one and a half years.That is good news But that doesn't stop KCB from offering voluntary retirement package on a willing basis. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,671 Location: NAIROBI
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After their merger KCB /NBK will have a 16.51% share of banking services in Kenya, then NIC/CBA (10.67%) Cooperative (9.93%) Equity (9.85%) Standard Chartered (7.11%) Diamond Trust (6.72%) Barclays (6.57%) CFC Stanbic (5.65%) I & M Bank (4.78%) @CAK_Kenya Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Ericsson wrote:After their merger KCB /NBK will have a 16.51% share of banking services in Kenya, then NIC/CBA (10.67%) Cooperative (9.93%) Equity (9.85%) Standard Chartered (7.11%) Diamond Trust (6.72%) Barclays (6.57%) CFC Stanbic (5.65%) I & M Bank (4.78%) @CAK_Kenya I see a scenario where once BBK/ABSA branding is through, Standard Chartered Bank will gain some of the 'older' version of BBK customers who have roots in the UK and Europe. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:After their merger KCB /NBK will have a 16.51% share of banking services in Kenya, then NIC/CBA (10.67%) Cooperative (9.93%) Equity (9.85%) Standard Chartered (7.11%) Diamond Trust (6.72%) Barclays (6.57%) CFC Stanbic (5.65%) I & M Bank (4.78%) @CAK_Kenya I see a scenario where once BBK/ABSA branding is through, Standard Chartered Bank will gain some of the 'older' version of BBK customers who have roots in the UK and Europe. Does not matter anymore the role of UK, Europe investors in the Kenyan economy has been shrinking ever since Kibaki looked east. The future is Afro-Asian. ABSA ditching that beberu BBK tag will work for them in the long run.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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wukan wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:After their merger KCB /NBK will have a 16.51% share of banking services in Kenya, then NIC/CBA (10.67%) Cooperative (9.93%) Equity (9.85%) Standard Chartered (7.11%) Diamond Trust (6.72%) Barclays (6.57%) CFC Stanbic (5.65%) I & M Bank (4.78%) @CAK_Kenya I see a scenario where once BBK/ABSA branding is through, Standard Chartered Bank will gain some of the 'older' version of BBK customers who have roots in the UK and Europe. Does not matter anymore the role of UK, Europe investors in the Kenyan economy has been shrinking ever since Kibaki looked east. The future is Afro-Asian. ABSA ditching that beberu BBK tag will work for them in the long run. ABSA is still very much apartheid tag to me. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,671 Location: NAIROBI
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Angelica _ann wrote:Ericsson wrote:After their merger KCB /NBK will have a 16.51% share of banking services in Kenya, then NIC/CBA (10.67%) Cooperative (9.93%) Equity (9.85%) Standard Chartered (7.11%) Diamond Trust (6.72%) Barclays (6.57%) CFC Stanbic (5.65%) I & M Bank (4.78%) @CAK_Kenya I see a scenario where once BBK/ABSA branding is through, Standard Chartered Bank will gain some of the 'older' version of BBK customers who have roots in the UK and Europe. Barclays Plc still has a 15% stake in ABSA Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,671 Location: NAIROBI
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What has excited the KCB share price today with big volumes Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Was the share swap with NBK effected?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,671 Location: NAIROBI
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deadpoet wrote:Was the share swap with NBK effected? Been effected on 27 September and trading on the NSE commences on 30 September. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,671 Location: NAIROBI
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KCB Group Plc has appointed Mr. Paul Russo as the Managing Director of National Bank of Kenya (@National_Bank following an approval by the Central Bank of Kenya. During the integration period, KCB will work towards streamlining human resources, systems, processes and procedures to fully realize the value of the envisioned combined efficiencies and productivity synergies post the acquisition It is expected that the NBK Board will be reorganized in the coming weeks and will provide guidance during the integration period. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,497 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:KCB Group Plc has appointed Mr. Paul Russo as the Managing Director of National Bank of Kenya (@National_Bank following an approval by the Central Bank of Kenya. During the integration period, KCB will work towards streamlining human resources, systems, processes and procedures to fully realize the value of the envisioned combined efficiencies and productivity synergies post the acquisition It is expected that the NBK Board will be reorganized in the coming weeks and will provide guidance during the integration period. Good stuff HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,671 Location: NAIROBI
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Nbk former MD Wilfred musau has been redeploy ed to KCB group to oversee integration of two lenders. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,671 Location: NAIROBI
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Share price riding high today Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,497 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Share price riding high today You have seen nothing, yet HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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