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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai!
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai! That's fine but look at the ripple effect... That CBA should be renegotiated KALPA has the upper hand on this matter which is not good at all... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum Well, if KQ was making a PROFIT of 10bn then 100mn would be a rounding error. What's KQ's profit? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai! That's fine but look at the ripple effect... That CBA should be renegotiated KALPA has the upper hand on this matter which is not good at all... KALPA has broken all the past CEOs at KQ.. They have huge bargaining power since the pilots are primarily from well-off families, thus difficult to 'manage'.. But I agree, something should be done. The number of customers and lives affected by the disruption in schedules isn't good
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/9/2010 Posts: 320 Location: kenya
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai! That's fine but look at the ripple effect... That CBA should be renegotiated KALPA has the upper hand on this matter which is not good at all... KALPA has broken all the past CEOs at KQ.. They have huge bargaining power since the pilots are primarily from well-off families, thus difficult to 'manage'.. But I agree, something should be done. The number of customers and lives affected by the disruption in schedules isn't good https://www.nation.co.ke...49044-8ry80gz/index.htmlWork hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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cyruskulei wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai! That's fine but look at the ripple effect... That CBA should be renegotiated KALPA has the upper hand on this matter which is not good at all... KALPA has broken all the past CEOs at KQ.. They have huge bargaining power since the pilots are primarily from well-off families, thus difficult to 'manage'.. But I agree, something should be done. The number of customers and lives affected by the disruption in schedules isn't good https://www.nation.co.ke...9044-8ry80gz/index.html[/quote] I could be the CEO of this airline, if I had the time.. What ails it is simply staffing at all levels, especially the lower end, front office clerks. I wonder how Michael Joseph has been unable to break the cartels. It is just odd
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:cyruskulei wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai! That's fine but look at the ripple effect... That CBA should be renegotiated KALPA has the upper hand on this matter which is not good at all... KALPA has broken all the past CEOs at KQ.. They have huge bargaining power since the pilots are primarily from well-off families, thus difficult to 'manage'.. But I agree, something should be done. The number of customers and lives affected by the disruption in schedules isn't good https://www.nation.co.ke...9044-8ry80gz/index.html[/quote] I could be the CEO of this airline, if I had the time.. What ails it is simply staffing at all levels, especially the lower end, front office clerks. I wonder how Michael Joseph has been unable to break the cartels. It is just odd There is a lot wrong in this company... The small small things add up to cause the delays and inefficiencies... Peeps are called for an interview the person who gets the job wasn't even in the interview and doesn't even know what that role entails so how do you expect that person to perform and to marshall guys to achieve effieciencies...? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:cyruskulei wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai! That's fine but look at the ripple effect... That CBA should be renegotiated KALPA has the upper hand on this matter which is not good at all... KALPA has broken all the past CEOs at KQ.. They have huge bargaining power since the pilots are primarily from well-off families, thus difficult to 'manage'.. But I agree, something should be done. The number of customers and lives affected by the disruption in schedules isn't good https://www.nation.co.ke...9044-8ry80gz/index.html[/quote] I could be the CEO of this airline, if I had the time.. What ails it is simply staffing at all levels, especially the lower end, front office clerks. I wonder how Michael Joseph has been unable to break the cartels. It is just odd There is a lot wrong in this company... The small small things add up to cause the delays and inefficiencies... Peeps are called for an interview the person who gets the job wasn't even in the interview and doesn't even know what that role entails so how do you expect that person to perform and to marshall guys to achieve effieciencies...? And I guess some people expect nationalization to 'ease' such a situation. Mutaona maajabu.. Roles will be served even to clueless outsiders! Heri sasa hivi wanaangalia internal staff. What I like about the exposes, is that it gives management a fighting chance to drain the swamp
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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They can givee miguna miguna the mantle. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:@maka the pessimist kindly confirm why the NBO-NYC flights are at 80% capacity booked through to second week of September 2019 Wait for your HY results on Tuesday... I wish you all the best....  Board meeting in the morning then results thereafter... @Obiero lol ati insiders... 🤣🤣 Planes get full I was bumped off from Joburg no biggie was given USD 300(free cash for jägerbombs) and free accommodation....@obiero and @nrbby KQ is doing extremely badly take it from me.... KQ.. H1 2019 forecast Total income 59,784 Total operating cost 59,222 Operating profit 562 Other costs -3,290 Interest income 22.5 LBIT -2,705.5 Tax expense/(credit) 15 Other income 855 Total loss for the period -1,835.5 @maka we are hours away.. Mungu mbele!
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Uganda Airlines flying to JKIA https://citizentv.co.ke/...i-next-week-270673/?amp
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Wame karibishwa JKIA walipe ushuru. Kutua and kupaa si bure. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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In a couple of hours kitaeleweka...Wale watu wa kifua mbele on this monkey adrenaline imeanza kupanda. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/27/2018 Posts: 56 Location: Cambrian Dc
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Isn't this similar to when you come home and your kid runs to you and tells you that the maid is a liar? If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once into the sky that would be like the splendour of the mighty one.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Everyone eats except the shareholder...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Everyone eats except the shareholder...
I rem posting here how Weston got that contract... The Manager Transfer and Karibu Team then was away on sick leave... Strict person that one... Then when she came back after like 1 month she was surprised to find passengers being taken to Weston.... Very little she could do.... It takes roughly 6 months for a new hotel to be given a contract by KQ... So many checks are done by the security team before it happens... Place like Tamarind just got contracts the other day while others like Hill Park and Nairobi Upper hill have theirs terminated because of incidents... For those who know the owner of Hill Park you can imagine with all that influence JBW has the contract was terminated.... No. 2 sio mchezo interesting bit is Weston quotes the lowest price if I am not wrong 4500 per pax... So def they will get volumes.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,729
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maka wrote:hardwood wrote:Everyone eats except the shareholder...
I rem posting here how Weston got that contract... The Manager Transfer and Karibu Team then was away on sick leave... Strict person that one... Then when she came back after like 1 month she was surprised to find passengers being taken to Weston.... Very little she could do.... It takes roughly 6 months for a new hotel to be given a contract by KQ... So many checks are done by the security team before it happens... Place like Tamarind just got contracts the other day while others like Hill Park and Nairobi Upper hill have theirs terminated because of incidents... For those who know the owner of Hill Park you can imagine with all that influence JBW has the contract was terminated.... No. 2 sio mchezo interesting bit is Weston quotes the lowest price if I am not wrong 4500 per pax... So def they will get volumes.... So educate me, if you are KQ management would you go to expensive hotels when weston is charging peanuts. Their strength is pricing and thats how they got the tender i guess Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Disaster.... possunt quia posse videntur
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