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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,702 Location: NAIROBI
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And it has come to pass KQ share price at ksh.2.50 Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:And it has come to pass
KQ share price at ksh.2.50 Dog bites man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Ericsson wrote:And it has come to pass
KQ share price at ksh.2.50 Lows of 2.46. Share is now in unfamiliar territory. No one knows where price will settle next. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2008 Posts: 503
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:rwitre wrote:HaMaina wrote:Still watching this bird, currently @ 2.60ksh and looking tastier. If I buy @ Ksh 2.60 now it would be the same as someone I know buying @ 2.60/4(consolidation)= 0.65Ksh People are being encouraged to live healthily and you're out here looking for ways to increase your blood pressure. @HaMaina I do not recommend that you buy this stock but I will tell you for a fact that it will be back to KES 8.52 or higher! Thank me later I have to ask... Is there anyone who actually bought KQ shares on @Obiero's recommendation? @guru267 @snifadog @whiteowl @thedeal @impunity and many other vibrant traders who at the moment lack courage to state their position .. I make people think Folks named above... I am curious, did you buy KQ coz of @Obiero's recommendation? *I have been reading up on behavioral economics. This is not a question to denigrate anyone. I am curious on how people/investors are influenced. Wacha kutusumbua! Note that I never recommended KQ to anyone, but I know who bought in due to their confessions right here.. How will the said study improve your life my brother.. Tuwache kazi ya kupaka mbwa rangi, au kuvalisha ndovu diapers.. Let nature take its course.. Behavioral Finance/Economics is fascinating. Why do smart people make dumb mistakes? Look at my foray into ARM as an example. I am talking of the dumb mistake and not my lack of smarts. I was INFLUENCED by what a rep of CDC - who had no personal stake - said. Anyway, the question is not directed at you @obiero but those who did buy based on your "uplifting stories" about KQ's ascent to glory. On ARM I gave you a personal warning. Sometimes especially on African stock exchanges, its not about what you know but what you don't know. There is high asymmetry of information, thus need for the exchange bar What is it that you don't know[asymmetrical] is 'killing' you in KQ? Is exchange bar unable to decipher fundamental weaknesses inherent in KQ? cease fire. watu warudi topic of discussion on positives,negatives,latest 411s/news on KQ Cease fire not required with someone whose portfolio is unknown.. Never bargain when drunk. I speak in code I agree. Let the discussion continue. Behavioral Finance is an area we have barely touched on Wazua. I feel there was a fundamental difference between the positive indicators on ARM which were quite extensively discussed here. If Dangote hadn't paid the piper behind the scenes, ARM would probably be fine today. On the contrary, the common positive attributed to KQ is government ownership even though the general consensus by everyone is that the business case is non existent or if it is, no one knows how to handle it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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xxxxx wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:rwitre wrote:HaMaina wrote:Still watching this bird, currently @ 2.60ksh and looking tastier. If I buy @ Ksh 2.60 now it would be the same as someone I know buying @ 2.60/4(consolidation)= 0.65Ksh People are being encouraged to live healthily and you're out here looking for ways to increase your blood pressure. @HaMaina I do not recommend that you buy this stock but I will tell you for a fact that it will be back to KES 8.52 or higher! Thank me later I have to ask... Is there anyone who actually bought KQ shares on @Obiero's recommendation? @guru267 @snifadog @whiteowl @thedeal @impunity and many other vibrant traders who at the moment lack courage to state their position .. I make people think Folks named above... I am curious, did you buy KQ coz of @Obiero's recommendation? *I have been reading up on behavioral economics. This is not a question to denigrate anyone. I am curious on how people/investors are influenced. Wacha kutusumbua! Note that I never recommended KQ to anyone, but I know who bought in due to their confessions right here.. How will the said study improve your life my brother.. Tuwache kazi ya kupaka mbwa rangi, au kuvalisha ndovu diapers.. Let nature take its course.. Behavioral Finance/Economics is fascinating. Why do smart people make dumb mistakes? Look at my foray into ARM as an example. I am talking of the dumb mistake and not my lack of smarts. I was INFLUENCED by what a rep of CDC - who had no personal stake - said. Anyway, the question is not directed at you @obiero but those who did buy based on your "uplifting stories" about KQ's ascent to glory. On ARM I gave you a personal warning. Sometimes especially on African stock exchanges, its not about what you know but what you don't know. There is high asymmetry of information, thus need for the exchange bar What is it that you don't know[asymmetrical] is 'killing' you in KQ? Is exchange bar unable to decipher fundamental weaknesses inherent in KQ? cease fire. watu warudi topic of discussion on positives,negatives,latest 411s/news on KQ Cease fire not required with someone whose portfolio is unknown.. Never bargain when drunk. I speak in code I agree. Let the discussion continue. Behavioral Finance is an area we have barely touched on Wazua. I feel there was a fundamental difference between the positive indicators on ARM which were quite extensively discussed here. If Dangote hadn't paid the piper behind the scenes, ARM would probably be fine today. On the contrary, the common positive attributed to KQ is government ownership even though the general consensus by everyone is that the business case is non existent or if it is, no one knows how to handle it. You have spoken like a real man. No further comments required
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:And it has come to pass
KQ share price at ksh.2.50 Lows of 2.46. Share is now in unfamiliar territory. No one knows where price will settle next. KES 8.52 is guaranteed. Upon announcement of the Open Offer KQ will reprice. Thank me soon
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:And it has come to pass
KQ share price at ksh.2.50 Lows of 2.46. Share is now in unfamiliar territory. No one knows where price will settle next. KES 8.52 is guaranteed. Upon announcement of the Open Offer KQ will reprice. Thank me soon BS! Open offer is a dilutive rights issues. It can't enhance the price of the share. The only news that can excite the market now is buy-in from an American airline or consolidation with other East African Community airlines. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:And it has come to pass
KQ share price at ksh.2.50 Lows of 2.46. Share is now in unfamiliar territory. No one knows where price will settle next. KES 8.52 is guaranteed. Upon announcement of the Open Offer KQ will reprice. Thank me soon BS! Open offer is a dilutive rights issues. It can't enhance the price of the share. The only news that can excite the market now is buy-in from an American airline or consolidation with other East African Community airlines. BS! No airline can buy KQ as GoK isn’t selling! Common sense bro.. Meanwhile the introduction of an Open Offer will uplift the share price. This is a fact
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:And it has come to pass
KQ share price at ksh.2.50 Lows of 2.46. Share is now in unfamiliar territory. No one knows where price will settle next. KES 8.52 is guaranteed. Upon announcement of the Open Offer KQ will reprice. Thank me soon BS! Open offer is a dilutive rights issues. It can't enhance the price of the share. The only news that can excite the market now is buy-in from an American airline or consolidation with other East African Community airlines. BS! No airline can buy KQ as GoK isn’t selling! Common sense bro.. Meanwhile the introduction of an Open Offer will uplift the share price. This is a fact I can't see any EAC airline wanting to take over KQ "as is" or even contemplate a merger. Why would a US airline want KQ? It's too far from the USA. At most they would want a code-share. The best hope is a MEA or Asian airline. Perhaps another European airline. BUT not with the current debts, problematic staff or shareholding. They would want a CLEAN airline. Good luck to the "minority" shareholders. The KQLC guys should accept a haircut and sell their shares to GoK. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:And it has come to pass
KQ share price at ksh.2.50 Lows of 2.46. Share is now in unfamiliar territory. No one knows where price will settle next. KES 8.52 is guaranteed. Upon announcement of the Open Offer KQ will reprice. Thank me soon BS! Open offer is a dilutive rights issues. It can't enhance the price of the share. The only news that can excite the market now is buy-in from an American airline or consolidation with other East African Community airlines. BS! No airline can buy KQ as GoK isn’t selling! Common sense bro.. Meanwhile the introduction of an Open Offer will uplift the share price. This is a fact I can't see any EAC airline wanting to take over KQ "as is" or even contemplate a merger. Why would a US airline want KQ? It's too far from the USA. At most they would want a code-share. The best hope is a MEA or Asian airline. Perhaps another European airline. BUT not with the current debts, problematic staff or shareholding. They would want a CLEAN airline. Good luck to the "minority" shareholders. The KQLC guys should accept a haircut and sell their shares to GoK. The only haircut to be given will be at a barbershop. We will ride this plane to high glory. Watch and learn
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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@maka the pessimist kindly confirm why the NBO-NYC flights are at 80% capacity booked through to second week of September 2019
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:And it has come to pass
KQ share price at ksh.2.50 Lows of 2.46. Share is now in unfamiliar territory. No one knows where price will settle next. KES 8.52 is guaranteed. Upon announcement of the Open Offer KQ will reprice. Thank me soon BS! Open offer is a dilutive rights issues. It can't enhance the price of the share. The only news that can excite the market now is buy-in from an American airline or consolidation with other East African Community airlines. BS! No airline can buy KQ as GoK isn’t selling! Common sense bro.. Meanwhile the introduction of an Open Offer will uplift the share price. This is a fact Crap! History can't be wrong this time round at nse @obiero, give only one real example where share price improved after a rights issue in the last ten years. To the contrary, I will point to all such except one. What facts do you have better than the historical market data other than kifua mbelembele ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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Why Appeals Court cut ex-KQ staff’s hefty award https://www.businessdail...44198-c8wqat/index.html
>>> KQ to pay Mbugua 29mn! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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Move comes at a time the carrier has lost more than 100 of its highly trained pilots and engineers to Middle East airlines https://www.businessdail...244212-5foxp5/index.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:And it has come to pass
KQ share price at ksh.2.50 Lows of 2.46. Share is now in unfamiliar territory. No one knows where price will settle next. KES 8.52 is guaranteed. Upon announcement of the Open Offer KQ will reprice. Thank me soon BS! Open offer is a dilutive rights issues. It can't enhance the price of the share. The only news that can excite the market now is buy-in from an American airline or consolidation with other East African Community airlines. BS! No airline can buy KQ as GoK isn’t selling! Common sense bro.. Meanwhile the introduction of an Open Offer will uplift the share price. This is a fact Crap! History can't be wrong this time round at nse @obiero, give only one real example where share price improved after a rights issue in the last ten years. To the contrary, I will point to all such except one. What facts do you have better than the historical market data other than kifua mbelembele  John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:And it has come to pass
KQ share price at ksh.2.50 Lows of 2.46. Share is now in unfamiliar territory. No one knows where price will settle next. KES 8.52 is guaranteed. Upon announcement of the Open Offer KQ will reprice. Thank me soon BS! Open offer is a dilutive rights issues. It can't enhance the price of the share. The only news that can excite the market now is buy-in from an American airline or consolidation with other East African Community airlines. BS! No airline can buy KQ as GoK isn’t selling! Common sense bro.. Meanwhile the introduction of an Open Offer will uplift the share price. This is a fact Crap! History can't be wrong this time round at nse @obiero, give only one real example where share price improved after a rights issue in the last ten years. To the contrary, I will point to all such except one. What facts do you have better than the historical market data other than kifua mbelembele Past failure is not an exclusive predictor for future failure. Your father may have been awful in math and you turn out to be a math professor. It is possible
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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I think we will wake up one day to the news that the company is closed... Madeni chungu nzima. Shida tupu. Something needs to be done very fast. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:And it has come to pass
KQ share price at ksh.2.50 Lows of 2.46. Share is now in unfamiliar territory. No one knows where price will settle next. KES 8.52 is guaranteed. Upon announcement of the Open Offer KQ will reprice. Thank me soon BS! Open offer is a dilutive rights issues. It can't enhance the price of the share. The only news that can excite the market now is buy-in from an American airline or consolidation with other East African Community airlines. BS! No airline can buy KQ as GoK isn’t selling! Common sense bro.. Meanwhile the introduction of an Open Offer will uplift the share price. This is a fact Crap! History can't be wrong this time round at nse @obiero, give only one real example where share price improved after a rights issue in the last ten years. To the contrary, I will point to all such except one. What facts do you have better than the historical market data other than kifua mbelembele Past failure is not an exclusive predictor for future failure. Your father may have been awful in math and you turn out to be a math professor. It is possible The exception does not the rule make. I wish KQLC well. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,558 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:I think we will wake up one day to the news that the company is closed... Madeni chungu nzima. Shida tupu. Something needs to be done very fast. Hopefully that shouldn't happen, because I need you to have a job, despite what you did to the 2 Embraers. Na hapo kwa madeni, you know full well that the debt position drastically reduced after the restructuring, along with attendant finance costs. Let us be objective, as we await the much improved HY results in a few days
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/18/2019 Posts: 185 Location: kenya
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What was KQ's CAPEX for FY18?
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