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obiero
#13421 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:26:49 AM
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xxxxx wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KQ closes today at 2.73 per share as per NSE website

More interested in the volumes. Current price is fictitious. Anyone not buying now isn’t cut out as a trader and will likely never get a return exceeding 100% at the NSE


..are you buying???Shame on you

Unfortunately I am low on funds at the moment but I would if I could

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#13422 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:34:14 AM
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obiero wrote:
xxxxx wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KQ closes today at 2.73 per share as per NSE website

More interested in the volumes. Current price is fictitious. Anyone not buying now isn’t cut out as a trader and will likely never get a return exceeding 100% at the NSE


..are you buying???Shame on you

Unfortunately I am low on funds at the moment but I would if I could


So, the statement that "Anyone not buying now isn’t cut out as a trader and will likely never get a return exceeding 100% at the NSE" is false!
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obiero
#13423 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:50:50 AM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
obiero wrote:
xxxxx wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KQ closes today at 2.73 per share as per NSE website

More interested in the volumes. Current price is fictitious. Anyone not buying now isn’t cut out as a trader and will likely never get a return exceeding 100% at the NSE


..are you buying???Shame on you

Unfortunately I am low on funds at the moment but I would if I could


So, the statement that "Anyone not buying now isn’t cut out as a trader and will likely never get a return exceeding 100% at the NSE" is false!

Rephrase it to read anyone with funds.. :)

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#13424 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:28:33 AM
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I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.
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#13425 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:31:29 AM
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I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.

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#13426 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:39:58 AM
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guru267 wrote:
I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.



I can't touch even for short-term speculation for the following reasons:

1. My speculative portfolio of 5% is stuck in HAFR. Don't need another monkey.

2. Weak price trend. Stock likely collapse below KES 2.50 which will be the end of all hopes of recovery.
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#13427 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:18:39 PM
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sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.



I can't touch even for short-term speculation for the following reasons:

1. My speculative portfolio of 5% is stuck in HAFR. Don't need another monkey.

2. Weak price trend. Stock likely collapse below KES 2.50 which will be the end of all hopes of recovery.


https://www.businessdail...4520-jolingz/index.html

It's a good stock for speculation...you should be perfect in selling at the right time
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#13428 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:33:11 PM
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sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.



I can't touch even for short-term speculation for the following reasons:

1. My speculative portfolio of 5% is stuck in HAFR. Don't need another monkey.

2. Weak price trend. Stock likely collapse below KES 2.50 which will be the end of all hopes of recovery.


I don't think you can compare HAFR with KQ, KQ has a product/service to offer that requires skilled personnel to ensure all goes well. HAFR I don't think have a single house to offer and at least show us they have a product that they can create and sell at a profit, and at least compete with the hundreds of fundi's who are building and selling houses by the hundreds.
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
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#13429 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:54:58 PM
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sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.



I can't touch even for short-term speculation for the following reasons:

1. My speculative portfolio of 5% is stuck in HAFR. Don't need another monkey.

2. Weak price trend. Stock likely collapse below KES 2.50 which will be the end of all hopes of recovery.


I think investors need to know when to take losses. How are you still holding HAFR? I remember taking my losses on that monkey some years ago but I have since recovered those losses and then some by trading a few winners.

The biggest lesson I've learned on the NSE is that long term investment is a losing strategy because 9 out of 10 Kenyan companies are simply unable to deliver consistent positive results or deliver shareholder value.
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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#13430 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:14:21 PM
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guru267 wrote:
sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.



I can't touch even for short-term speculation for the following reasons:

1. My speculative portfolio of 5% is stuck in HAFR. Don't need another monkey.

2. Weak price trend. Stock likely collapse below KES 2.50 which will be the end of all hopes of recovery.


I think investors need to know when to take losses. How are you still holding HAFR? I remember taking my losses on that monkey some years ago but I have since recovered those losses and then some by trading a few winners.

The biggest lesson I've learned on the NSE is that long term investment is a losing strategy because 9 out of 10 Kenyan companies are simply unable to deliver consistent positive results or deliver shareholder value.

Congratulations @guru267 for trading on KQ but you sell yourself short at KES 3.50.. KES 12 is fair game

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#13431 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:31:09 PM
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guru267 wrote:
sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.



I can't touch even for short-term speculation for the following reasons:

1. My speculative portfolio of 5% is stuck in HAFR. Don't need another monkey.

2. Weak price trend. Stock likely collapse below KES 2.50 which will be the end of all hopes of recovery.


I think investors need to know when to take losses. How are you still holding HAFR? I remember taking my losses on that monkey some years ago but I have since recovered those losses and then some by trading a few winners.

The biggest lesson I've learned on the NSE is that long term investment is a losing strategy because 9 out of 10 Kenyan companies are simply unable to deliver consistent positive results or deliver shareholder value.


The difference between you and me is that you were averaging down the monkey at 8 bob while my ABP is 1 bob and I will not average down any further.

I wait for 3 bob to exit but even if HAFR is delisted, I don't consider my investment of 60k in the company material.
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obiero
#13432 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:30:43 PM
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sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.



I can't touch even for short-term speculation for the following reasons:

1. My speculative portfolio of 5% is stuck in HAFR. Don't need another monkey.

2. Weak price trend. Stock likely collapse below KES 2.50 which will be the end of all hopes of recovery.


I think investors need to know when to take losses. How are you still holding HAFR? I remember taking my losses on that monkey some years ago but I have since recovered those losses and then some by trading a few winners.

The biggest lesson I've learned on the NSE is that long term investment is a losing strategy because 9 out of 10 Kenyan companies are simply unable to deliver consistent positive results or deliver shareholder value.


The difference between you and me is that you were averaging down the monkey at 8 bob while my ABP is 1 bob and I will not average down any further.

I wait for 3 bob to exit but even if HAFR is delisted, I don't consider my investment of 60k in the company material.

Agreed. 60K is not an investment.. That sum isn’t enough to even purchase a boda boda

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#13433 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:18:00 PM
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#13434 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:29:55 AM
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obiero wrote:


Borrow and buy KQ. Sounds like a good idea
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#13435 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 8:04:07 AM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.



I can't touch even for short-term speculation for the following reasons:

1. My speculative portfolio of 5% is stuck in HAFR. Don't need another monkey.

2. Weak price trend. Stock likely collapse below KES 2.50 which will be the end of all hopes of recovery.


I think investors need to know when to take losses. How are you still holding HAFR? I remember taking my losses on that monkey some years ago but I have since recovered those losses and then some by trading a few winners.

The biggest lesson I've learned on the NSE is that long term investment is a losing strategy because 9 out of 10 Kenyan companies are simply unable to deliver consistent positive results or deliver shareholder value.


The difference between you and me is that you were averaging down the monkey at 8 bob while my ABP is 1 bob and I will not average down any further.

I wait for 3 bob to exit but even if HAFR is delisted, I don't consider my investment of 60k in the company material.

Agreed. 60K is not an investment.. That sum isn’t enough to even purchase a boda boda

Soon and very soon your KQ shares will crumble in value to KES 60,000...Will it remain an investment to you?
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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#13436 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 8:10:45 AM
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sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.



I can't touch even for short-term speculation for the following reasons:

1. My speculative portfolio of 5% is stuck in HAFR. Don't need another monkey.

2. Weak price trend. Stock likely collapse below KES 2.50 which will be the end of all hopes of recovery.


I agree with you 100%...Weak price trend has been NSE experience. KQ to join MSC, HAFR, UCHUMI nakadhalika nakadhalika..
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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#13437 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 8:27:25 AM
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guru267 wrote:
I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.


the volumes on this counter (and many on NSE) are so miserable how does one make any money short term trading?
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#13438 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 10:02:22 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
KQ closes today at 2.73 per share as per NSE website

Good reporting, as per nse website, the credibility of data on some of our sites is wanting.
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#13439 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:41:25 AM
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The way guys are talking is as if other stocks are riding on steroids yet all stocks are bleeding profusely. Why should KQ act differently. When guys start having confidence in our market all stocks will soar including KQ and guys will make money
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#13440 Posted : Thursday, August 15, 2019 2:03:11 PM
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snifadog wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I've made so much money in 2019 trading KQ. My latest average buy price is 2.75 looking to exit at 3.50 in the next few months. I dont know who in their right mind would actually buy and hold this stock long term.


the volumes on this counter (and many on NSE) are so miserable how does one make any money short term trading?

It’s possible

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