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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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If those indeed are the plots and the prices that's a super deal for Acacia. Imagine trying to buy that plot in Lavington. You would have to fork out 200 metre bare minimum. This is why DC is the future. It is a no-brainer really. Just like there was a giant whooshing sucking sound as American corporations were drawn to China starting in 1978, so too is the giant whooshing sound of the urban moneyed Nairobi middle class who are interested in maintaining (or enhancing) their standard of living instead of renting for life or buying cramped apartments and living like Univeristy students in crowded hostels in Nairobi core. More space, more value, bigger size land, owning a home that is appreciating in value every day. Like I said, the rush to DC (Rongai, Kitengela, Ngong, Kiserian, Tuala etc) is inevitable and arguing against it is like arguing that the sun will not rise kesho. Even if Mulmulwas MM dropped dead kesho it will still happen as it has been happening for the past 20 years +.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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MugundaMan wrote:If those indeed are the plots and the prices that's a super deal for Acacia. Imagine trying to buy that plot in Lavington. You would have to fork out 200 metre bare minimum. This is why DC is the future. It is a no-brainer really. Just like there was a giant whooshing sucking sound as American corporations were drawn to China starting in 1978, so too is the giant whooshing sound of the urban moneyed Nairobi middle class who are interested in maintaining (or enhancing) their standard of living instead of renting for life or buying cramped apartments and living like Univeristy students in crowded hostels in Nairobi core. More space, more value, bigger size land, owning a home that is appreciating in value every day. Like I said, the rush to DC (Rongai, Kitengela, Ngong, Kiserian, Tuala etc) is inevitable and arguing against it is like arguing that the sun will not rise kesho. Even if Mulmulwas MM dropped dead kesho it will still happen as it has been happening for the past 20 years +.  I have been on StocksKenya long enough to see predictions fail OR come true. Time will tell and the next StocksKenya aka Wazua aka "rebranded website" I will find this post and circulate it. Anyway I agree every where will grow I just find it funny that Mr Ploti maguta maguta""believes that it is only DC that will grow. I can see flipping of houses in Langata, Ngumo, South B and C creating new cool neighborhoods. Also if Gover developments in Ngara and Eastlando happen the growth in this neighboorhoods will be crazy. There are so many opportunities in Nairobi and DC doesn't have a monopoly on growth potential.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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MugundaMan wrote:If those indeed are the plots and the prices that's a super deal for Acacia. Imagine trying to buy that plot in Lavington. You would have to fork out 200 metre bare minimum. This is why DC is the future. It is a no-brainer really. Just like there was a giant whooshing sucking sound as American corporations were drawn to China starting in 1978, so too is the giant whooshing sound of the urban moneyed Nairobi middle class who are interested in maintaining (or enhancing) their standard of living instead of renting for life or buying cramped apartments and living like Univeristy students in crowded hostels in Nairobi core. More space, more value, bigger size land, owning a home that is appreciating in value every day. Like I said, the rush to DC (Rongai, Kitengela, Ngong, Kiserian, Tuala etc) is inevitable and arguing against it is like arguing that the sun will not rise kesho. Even if Mulmulwas MM dropped dead kesho it will still happen as it has been happening for the past 20 years +. The commute has to be fixed for DC to become the new Lavington OR kAREN. It's too far from the economic hub so unless the economic hub moves from CBD, Westlands, upperhill to mlolongo or Athi River DC will never be Karen. Amenities have to improve to match and compete with CBD, upperhill, Westlands. Please don't say you have a hospital or a shopping mall. Match and compete is the level that hospitals, specialist, distributors, wholesalers, mechanics, specialist shops, markets, ........ this list is soooo long should all prefer taking business to DC before DC becomes the new Karen or Lavington. Boss the things that have to change and the challenges that DC have to overcome to becomes the new Lavington.... GOD help us!!! Mr Ploti Maguta Maguta DC is great. You can make money and probably a lot of money lakini PLEASE STOP LYING that DC will be the new Lavington in our lifetimes. Stop it!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Tony, you are funny. I remember last year you were crying with voice ya daboo here on Wazoo that real estate everywhere including the neighbourhoods you are now name dropping was a terrible investment that NEVER appreciates given buildings on riparian land were being demolished A smal question to you. Do you own even a pit latrine or mpesa kibanda in Karen or Lavington?? Please give us an HONEST answer please
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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MugundaMan wrote:Tony, you are funny. I remember last year you were crying with voice ya daboo here on Wazoo that real estate everywhere including the neighbourhoods you are now name dropping was a terrible investment that NEVER appreciates given buildings on riparian land were being demolished A smal question to you. Do you own even a pit latrine or mpesa kibanda in Karen or Lavington?? Please give us an HONEST answer please It's funny how you ask for an honest answer to an insult and logical fallacies?? Mr Ploti Maguta Maguta, There is a feature on Wazua called user profile, click on it then go to last 10 post click on it then click on all user post and then please please reply to the post and show that post. I promise you I will Mpesa you 1000 STAT! Anyway seeing that you didn't address any of my points on commute, amenities, economic hub etc and decided my points should only be validated if I own a pit latrine that has ended the discussion. Ukipata post reply to it and I will MPESA you the moneY other than that keep on keeping on .... DC forever, the world ends in DC, DC mwisho and whatever else you want to convince people to buy ploti maguta maguta!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,656
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MugundaMan wrote:If those indeed are the plots and the prices that's a super deal for Acacia. Imagine trying to buy that plot in Lavington. You would have to fork out 200 metre bare minimum. This is why DC is the future. It is a no-brainer really. Just like there was a giant whooshing sucking sound as American corporations were drawn to China starting in 1978, so too is the giant whooshing sound of the urban moneyed Nairobi middle class who are interested in maintaining (or enhancing) their standard of living instead of renting for life or buying cramped apartments and living like Univeristy students in crowded hostels in Nairobi core. More space, more value, bigger size land, owning a home that is appreciating in value every day. Like I said, the rush to DC (Rongai, Kitengela, Ngong, Kiserian, Tuala etc) is inevitable and arguing against it is like arguing that the sun will not rise kesho. Even if Mulmulwas MM dropped dead kesho it will still happen as it has been happening for the past 20 years +. Mulmulwas MM, Nairobi core is undergoing serious rejuvenation. I'm loving the growing sophistication in restaurants and clubs-better ambiance and food variety, refurbished pedestrian friendly streets like Luthuli Avenue, Moi lane and others like Banda street coming up. Even the River road small shops are being set up with awesome interiors. Huko lower Kirinyaga road-Grogan Chinaman has started working on the Nairobi river to have a waterfront. In westlands, Riverside and parklands too lots of good stuff coming up.Proper urban roads are coming up with cycle paths. Dustbowl won't compete with Nairobi core anytime soon.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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wukan wrote:MugundaMan wrote:If those indeed are the plots and the prices that's a super deal for Acacia. Imagine trying to buy that plot in Lavington. You would have to fork out 200 metre bare minimum. This is why DC is the future. It is a no-brainer really. Just like there was a giant whooshing sucking sound as American corporations were drawn to China starting in 1978, so too is the giant whooshing sound of the urban moneyed Nairobi middle class who are interested in maintaining (or enhancing) their standard of living instead of renting for life or buying cramped apartments and living like Univeristy students in crowded hostels in Nairobi core. More space, more value, bigger size land, owning a home that is appreciating in value every day. Like I said, the rush to DC (Rongai, Kitengela, Ngong, Kiserian, Tuala etc) is inevitable and arguing against it is like arguing that the sun will not rise kesho. Even if Mulmulwas MM dropped dead kesho it will still happen as it has been happening for the past 20 years +. Mulmulwas MM, Nairobi core is undergoing serious rejuvenation. I'm loving the growing sophistication in restaurants and clubs-better ambiance and food variety, refurbished pedestrian friendly streets like Luthuli Avenue, Moi lane and others like Banda street coming up. Even the River road small shops are being set up with awesome interiors. Huko lower Kirinyaga road-Grogan Chinaman has started working on the Nairobi river to have a waterfront. In westlands, Riverside and parklands too lots of good stuff coming up.Proper urban roads are coming up with cycle paths. Dustbowl won't compete with Nairobi core anytime soon. Wukan, you are missing the premise behind this entire thread. This is not a peeing contest between counties, it is simply stating very basic econmic logic. Not everyone is a member of the lucky sperm club who in your own admission is "working hard" renovating daddy's old money properties on River Road and helping him as he builds bedsitters in Nairobi West. Did you forget that 90 percent of Kenyans earn 50k a month or less? Where do you expect them to go when they want to own their own homes? To go sleep on those beautiful Luthuli ave pedestrian walkways and benches at night ? You CANNOT stop the move to DC and the burbs even if you wanted to, my braddah. The funny thing is we have posted report after report of the DC boom hapa yet you still argue against it as if MM is making this stuff up! Even more comically,the best some of you can come up with is ati Lavington has nice fountains and Riverside has 5 new hotels. As if wakina Mulmulwas MM do not partake of those same same amenities while in our hometown where we were born and raised acheni jokes!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,656
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MugundaMan wrote:Wukan, you are missing the premise behind this entire thread. This is not a peeing contest between counties, it is simply stating very basic econmic logic. Not everyone is a member of the lucky sperm club who in your own admission is "working hard" renovating daddy's old money properties on River Road and helping him as he builds bedsitters in Nairobi West. Did you forget that 90 percent of Kenyans earn 50k a month or less? Where do you expect them to go when they want to own their own homes? To go sleep on those beautiful Luthuli ave pedestrian walkways and benches at night ? You CANNOT stop the move to DC and the burbs even if you wanted to, my braddah. The funny thing is we have posted report after report of the DC boom hapa yet you still argue against it as if MM is making this stuff up! Even more comically,the best some of you can come up with is ati Lavington has nice fountains and Riverside has 5 new hotels. As if wakina Mulmulwas MM do not partake of those same same amenities while in our hometown where we were born and raised acheni jokes! Actually it is a peeing contest-counties that are livable in terms of price, amenities and jobs will attract more residents. Isn't that the point that burbs will continue to attract people starting out on the property ladder not necessarily the urban moneyed middle class who are interested in enhancing their standard of living. It's a gold rush(new frontier mindset) and that's why there is a boom in DC properties. The DC boom will plateau in time and it won't catch up with Nairobi core. As Nairobi core becomes more sophisticated with a younger more educated generation it will displace those priced out to the burbs. That's when you'll see property prices stagnate. "Poor people who’ve moved to the suburbs tend to be farther away from their jobs, and in many areas where public transportation is poor; there are few ways to make the connections needed to get there." “People who might once have been able to get a job locally are now either travelling for a very long time at a high cost or, when they do the calculation on transport cost and [commute] time, they’re [ending up] not working”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/8/2008 Posts: 947
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wukan wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Wukan, you are missing the premise behind this entire thread. This is not a peeing contest between counties, it is simply stating very basic econmic logic. Not everyone is a member of the lucky sperm club who in your own admission is "working hard" renovating daddy's old money properties on River Road and helping him as he builds bedsitters in Nairobi West. Did you forget that 90 percent of Kenyans earn 50k a month or less? Where do you expect them to go when they want to own their own homes? To go sleep on those beautiful Luthuli ave pedestrian walkways and benches at night ? You CANNOT stop the move to DC and the burbs even if you wanted to, my braddah. The funny thing is we have posted report after report of the DC boom hapa yet you still argue against it as if MM is making this stuff up! Even more comically,the best some of you can come up with is ati Lavington has nice fountains and Riverside has 5 new hotels. As if wakina Mulmulwas MM do not partake of those same same amenities while in our hometown where we were born and raised acheni jokes! Actually it is a peeing contest-counties that are livable in terms of price, amenities and jobs will attract more residents. Isn't that the point that burbs will continue to attract people starting out on the property ladder not necessarily the urban moneyed middle class who are interested in enhancing their standard of living. It's a gold rush(new frontier mindset) and that's why there is a boom in DC properties. The DC boom will plateau in time and it won't catch up with Nairobi core. As Nairobi core becomes more sophisticated with a younger more educated generation it will displace those priced out to the burbs. That's when you'll see property prices stagnate. "Poor people who’ve moved to the suburbs tend to be farther away from their jobs, and in many areas where public transportation is poor; there are few ways to make the connections needed to get there." “People who might once have been able to get a job locally are now either travelling for a very long time at a high cost or, when they do the calculation on transport cost and [commute] time, they’re [ending up] not working” Wukan good luck talking sense into Mr ploti maguta maguta! Mara DC will be lavington, then oooh it's not a competition, he has no stand and nit picking figures to create castles in the sky. The challenge these farmland plots ( Siwezi ita plot iko kwa border na Tanzania suburb) is infrastructure. When you have divided an acre into a hundred plots and squeezed the road to the bare minimum, no sewage or any amenity to speak of from shared common space to social activities and then have the people try to build thats when you will discover the DC sio Lavington. The economics for Kenya and demand is that property in general will increase due to youth boom and population growth. Everywhere benefits but other places will benefit and DC will NOT be the only beneficiary of growth and in my opinion will not have the highest return compared to other places. 10 years is not a long time!!!
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