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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Sasa these mbloggers now pretend to know more about luo culture than the luo council of elders? They should shut up and listen to the wazee... https://www.the-star.co....-okoths-wife-inherited/
Quote: Homa Bay Luo council of elders want the widow of Kibra MP Ken Okoth inherited as per the community’s cultural practices. Speaking to journalists at his Kendu Bay home, the council of elders led by chairman Nyandiko Ongadi said their cultural practice demands Monica be inherited. The elders also said Monica should visit her husband’s home to perform certain rituals together with the family. “The rituals with the family of her husband at home are necessary. The family should also symbolically bury a banana log at the home,” Ongadi said. On Sunday, Nyandiko said Monica can be inherited by one of the Okoth’s brothers and build her a house (simba) or a home. “It’s upon any of the Okoth’s brother interested to inherit her. Should there be no brother then a close relative can do the same to fulfil the Luo cultural rites,” Ongadi said.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Habari ndiyo hiyo. Jaboya is waiting to cleanse her.....
is Anita willing to be inherited? she can take one for the team. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:Habari ndiyo hiyo. Jaboya is waiting to cleanse her.....
is Anita willing to be inherited? she can take one for the team. Those Luo council of elders members are just busybodies who have nothing to do. They are known to demand handsomely payment to perform the rituals they are advancing. MP Okoth doesn't have a house/home in Luo nyanza. If they are serious; when Okoth came back from majuu around 2011/2012, they would have advised him to build/'beat' a home/house in shaggs, they didnt. when he became an MP in 2013 and therefore became a national leader they should have advised him to build/'beat' a home/house in shaggs, they didn't. when he was ailing and there was a point of no return, they should have organized for him and help him build/'beat' a home/house in shaggs, they didn't. Now this is the most crucial one, when Okoth died, traditionally they should have organised and built a home/house where the body would have been taken. To show you that theirs is odomodomo, nobody even attempted to try to undertake such a simple assignment. So what they are advancing is talk with no substance. Also Okoth had the means, how come he never built in shaggs? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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'Kwa nini ayurupian nachukua mitoto yetu mjaluo anaenda kuchoma?'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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The Luo Council of Elders has said that Monica must be cleansed. They have given details of the cleansing and way forward... https://www.the-star.co....inheritance-luo-elders/
Quote:The widow of the late Kibra MP Ken Okoth, Monica, should first undergo cleansing before she is inherited by the legislator's elder brother, Luo elders have said.
Luo Council of Elders Chairman Nyandiko Ongadi said that Monica should visit Okoth's native home in Kasewe, Homa Bay county for cleansing rituals.
"If truly Monica is Okoth's wife she should honour the community's culture and practices," he said.
Cleansing, according to the Luo elders, involves engaging in sexual intercourse without a condom with a 'cleanser'.
A cleanser, Ongadi said, is often a non-relative of the deceased husband.
"When Monica arrives she will be taken for HIV and STI testing before the cleansing begins," Ongadi said.
The Luo elder said that cleansing is important in removing the impurity, the widow is believed to have acquired from the death of her husband.
After Okoth's European wife is 'cleansed', she will be expected to be inherited by one of the Okoth’s brothers and build her a house (simba) or a home.
“It’s upon any of the Okoth’s elder brother interested to inherit her. Should there be no brother then a close elder relative can do the same to fulfil the Luo cultural rites,” Ongadi said.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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hardwood wrote:The Luo Council of Elders has said that Monica must be cleansed. They have given details of the cleansing and way forward... https://www.the-star.co....inheritance-luo-elders/
Quote:The widow of the late Kibra MP Ken Okoth, Monica, should first undergo cleansing before she is inherited by the legislator's elder brother, Luo elders have said.
Luo Council of Elders Chairman Nyandiko Ongadi said that Monica should visit Okoth's native home in Kasewe, Homa Bay county for cleansing rituals.
"If truly Monica is Okoth's wife she should honour the community's culture and practices," he said.
Cleansing, according to the Luo elders, involves engaging in sexual intercourse without a condom with a 'cleanser'.
A cleanser, Ongadi said, is often a non-relative of the deceased husband.
"When Monica arrives she will be taken for HIV and STI testing before the cleansing begins," Ongadi said.
The Luo elder said that cleansing is important in removing the impurity, the widow is believed to have acquired from the death of her husband.
After Okoth's European wife is 'cleansed', she will be expected to be inherited by one of the Okoth’s brothers and build her a house (simba) or a home.
“It’s upon any of the Okoth’s elder brother interested to inherit her. Should there be no brother then a close elder relative can do the same to fulfil the Luo cultural rites,” Ongadi said. Guys are paid to write such crap which they know can't happen, won't happen. Meaningless kabisa. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Those Luo council of elders members are just busybodies who have nothing to do.
Those elders are 100% correct. You shouldn't dismiss them as busy bodies for giving their expert opinion on the matter. FYI I am also "an expert" on luo culture since I have read widely about the Luo people and their language and culture. Infact I have PDF copies of several PhD thesis detailing the luo and their way of life including the famous one by Prof Ogot - History of the Southern Luo. I should send you a copy since you appear ignorant on matters luo culture.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Angelica _ann wrote:hardwood wrote:The Luo Council of Elders has said that Monica must be cleansed. They have given details of the cleansing and way forward... https://www.the-star.co....inheritance-luo-elders/
Quote:The widow of the late Kibra MP Ken Okoth, Monica, should first undergo cleansing before she is inherited by the legislator's elder brother, Luo elders have said.
Luo Council of Elders Chairman Nyandiko Ongadi said that Monica should visit Okoth's native home in Kasewe, Homa Bay county for cleansing rituals.
"If truly Monica is Okoth's wife she should honour the community's culture and practices," he said.
Cleansing, according to the Luo elders, involves engaging in sexual intercourse without a condom with a 'cleanser'.
A cleanser, Ongadi said, is often a non-relative of the deceased husband.
"When Monica arrives she will be taken for HIV and STI testing before the cleansing begins," Ongadi said.
The Luo elder said that cleansing is important in removing the impurity, the widow is believed to have acquired from the death of her husband.
After Okoth's European wife is 'cleansed', she will be expected to be inherited by one of the Okoth’s brothers and build her a house (simba) or a home.
“It’s upon any of the Okoth’s elder brother interested to inherit her. Should there be no brother then a close elder relative can do the same to fulfil the Luo cultural rites,” Ongadi said. Guys are paid to write such crap which they know can't happen, won't happen. Meaningless kabisa. Dont blame the messenger. Those elders are 100% correct. You shouldn't dismiss them as busy bodies for giving their expert opinion on the matter. FYI I am also "an expert" on luo culture since I have read widely about the Luo people and their language and culture. Infact I have PDF copies of several PhD thesis detailing the luo and their way of life including the famous one by Prof Ogot - History of the Southern Luo. I should send you a copy since you appear ignorant on matters luo culture.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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There are several challenges that the Luo council of elders should consider. For example, how the institution of eldership is conferred and the responsibilities that are implied in eldership.
At the moment I hypothesize that such a council was meant to play an adaptive role in cultural design and engineering. In this case, a post colonial, national and global outlook needs to have inspired a new crop of elders on how to respond to the changed environment.
In this case we could ask ourselves if Monica was married via a customary process and to what extent. Then that could guide the correct ritual design for this occasion.
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