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mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:If CMA was functional, the buyout would have been halted water under the bridge. You will not say that when you loose out on an investment at the exchange due to regulatory negligence
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:If CMA was functional, the buyout would have been halted water under the bridge. You will not say that when you loose out on an investment at the exchange due to regulatory negligence which institution functions as it should in kenya anyway? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/23/2014 Posts: 909
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mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:If CMA was functional, the buyout would have been halted water under the bridge. That same water gets drunk by someone else, and if you forget, you'll drink it a second tome. Its not right to forget. “You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:If CMA was functional, the buyout would have been halted water under the bridge. You will not say that when you loose out on an investment at the exchange due to regulatory negligence which institution functions as it should in kenya anyway? Unfortunately, I cant think of any.. Among the 3,000+ parastatals and quasi government institutions.. All have known flaws. But I say this knowing full well that the said institutions are reflections of our society, we the people. Tujiangalie!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:If CMA was functional, the buyout would have been halted water under the bridge. You will not say that when you loose out on an investment at the exchange due to regulatory negligence which institution functions as it should in kenya anyway? Unfortunately, I cant think of any.. Among the 3,000+ parastatals and quasi government institutions.. All have known flaws. But I say this knowing full well that the said institutions are reflections of our society, we the people. Tujiangalie! Central Bank of Kenya under Njoroge is a straight institution!!!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:If CMA was functional, the buyout would have been halted water under the bridge. You will not say that when you loose out on an investment at the exchange due to regulatory negligence which institution functions as it should in kenya anyway? Unfortunately, I cant think of any.. Among the 3,000+ parastatals and quasi government institutions.. All have known flaws. But I say this knowing full well that the said institutions are reflections of our society, we the people. Tujiangalie! Central Bank of Kenya under Njoroge is a straight institution!!!!! I guess you haven't heard of manipulation in tbill prices.. Njoroge himself is spotless but his institution is not
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:mlennyma wrote:obiero wrote:If CMA was functional, the buyout would have been halted water under the bridge. You will not say that when you loose out on an investment at the exchange due to regulatory negligence which institution functions as it should in kenya anyway? Unfortunately, I cant think of any.. Among the 3,000+ parastatals and quasi government institutions.. All have known flaws. But I say this knowing full well that the said institutions are reflections of our society, we the people. Tujiangalie! this deal saved me I was near bankruptcy in my nse portfolio...my feeling is that if kk was still trading without the takeover it could be below 10 "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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The fraud filled journey ends 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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KK to get 4B from KPC after delisting from NSE. What a fraud on minority shareholders! https://www.standardmedi...s-kenolkobil-sh4-billionLife is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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[quote=sparkly]KK to get 4B from KPC after delisting from NSE. What a fraud on minority shareholders! https://www.standardmedi...-kenolkobil-sh4-billion[/quote] Link not opening Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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[quote=sparkly]KK to get 4B from KPC after delisting from NSE. What a fraud on minority shareholders! https://www.standardmedi...-kenolkobil-sh4-billion[/quote] Having got in at 8/= I don't consider this fraud at all.I've seen serious cases of shafting minority shareholders during delisting. They do it during the bear when the price is at an all time low.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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whiteowl wrote:[quote=sparkly]KK to get 4B from KPC after delisting from NSE. What a fraud on minority shareholders! https://www.standardmedi...-kenolkobil-sh4-billion[/quote] Having got in at 8/= I don't consider this fraud at all.I've seen serious cases of shafting minority shareholders during delisting. They do it during the bear when the price is at an all time low. 1. The amounts due from KPC had been written off. 2. We are in a bear. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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sparkly wrote:whiteowl wrote:[quote=sparkly]KK to get 4B from KPC after delisting from NSE. What a fraud on minority shareholders! https://www.standardmedi...-kenolkobil-sh4-billion[/quote] Having got in at 8/= I don't consider this fraud at all.I've seen serious cases of shafting minority shareholders during delisting. They do it during the bear when the price is at an all time low. 1. The amounts due from KPC had been written off. 2. We are in a bear. 3. Were minority shareholders low balled by the 23/= per share offer?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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whiteowl wrote:sparkly wrote:whiteowl wrote:[quote=sparkly]KK to get 4B from KPC after delisting from NSE. What a fraud on minority shareholders! https://www.standardmedi...-kenolkobil-sh4-billion[/quote] Having got in at 8/= I don't consider this fraud at all.I've seen serious cases of shafting minority shareholders during delisting. They do it during the bear when the price is at an all time low. 1. The amounts due from KPC had been written off. 2. We are in a bear. 3. Were minority shareholders low balled by the 23/= per share offer? 4. The clean up - debt write offs, staff redundancies, exist from unprofitable TZ, buy in into lucrative bulk storage; 5. Management pay off - Senior management walked away with billions in Esops; 6. The price - Aly Khan had valued the share at much higher than 23; 7. The shady circumstances - completed after death of total man, some family members disavowing inheritance, dealers and brokers involved in insider trading; 8. The aftermath - leaner cleaner KK, total man family out of the picture, KPC pays 4B after delisting. This transaction smells wrong from many angles. I bet money changed hands behind the scenes between total man family and the buyers to push through the deal. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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sparkly wrote:whiteowl wrote:sparkly wrote:whiteowl wrote:[quote=sparkly]KK to get 4B from KPC after delisting from NSE. What a fraud on minority shareholders! https://www.standardmedi...-kenolkobil-sh4-billion[/quote] Having got in at 8/= I don't consider this fraud at all.I've seen serious cases of shafting minority shareholders during delisting. They do it during the bear when the price is at an all time low. 1. The amounts due from KPC had been written off. 2. We are in a bear. 3. Were minority shareholders low balled by the 23/= per share offer? 4. The clean up - debt write offs, staff redundancies, exist from unprofitable TZ, buy in into lucrative bulk storage; 5. Management pay off - Senior management walked away with billions in Esops; 6. The price - Aly Khan had valued the share at much higher than 23; 7. The shady circumstances - completed after death of total man, some family members disavowing inheritance, dealers and brokers involved in insider trading; 8. The aftermath - leaner cleaner KK, total man family out of the picture, KPC pays 4B after delisting. This transaction smells wrong from many angles. I bet money changed hands behind the scenes between total man family and the buyers to push through the deal. Total man had planted some seeds in the current government who assisted in pushing through the deal Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Rubis energy now acquires Gulf energy https://kenyanwallstreet...on-kenyas-energy-sector/Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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