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Angelica _ann
#13071 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2019 12:23:20 PM
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HaMaina wrote:
Michael Joseph abandons loss making cash strapped KQ for profitable cash rich Safaricom.


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ArrestedDev
#13072 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2019 12:40:45 PM
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@maka, who are the 18 expatriates again hired from Europe? Polish consultants?

The two roles created when COO post was scrapped - The two Kenyan KQ Managers appointed - how are they?
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maka
#13073 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2019 12:50:23 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
@maka, who are the 18 expatriates again hired from Europe? Polish consultants?

The two roles created when COO post was scrapped - The two Kenyan KQ Managers appointed - how are they?


Which 18? There is only Clare Ward The CIO and Ursula... who know acts as CEO... Inafct she does even most of Sebastian's work...

Well appointing a Captain as Director of Ground Services doesnt cut it for me that role needs someone who has a lot of time to visit the ramp/terminal attend the myriads of meetings etc

Musila is suffering as Director of Fleet Development... Zero work.

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HaMaina
#13074 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2019 2:09:26 PM
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Kenya Airways Chief Operating Officer quits
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
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VituVingiSana
#13075 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2019 3:23:50 PM
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mulla wrote:
hardwood wrote:
murchr wrote:
Citizen wrote:
A body on Sunday reportedly fell of the undercarriage of a Kenya Airways aircraft headed to London from Nairobi minutes before landing at the Heathrow Airport.

KQ, in a statement to newsrooms on Monday, said the body of the unidentified male stowaway landed in a garden in the Borough of Lambeth, South London.

The owner of the garden then called London’s Metropolitan Police who tracked the flight radar to KQ Flight 100 where – upon inspection – a bag containing some food and clothing was discovered at the rear left landing gear.

“The incident has been treated as a sudden death and is now a police matter. The police have already been in contact with the Kenya High Commission to help identify and name the person,” read the statement.


That is a very serious security breach at JKIA. There will be consequences.

That guy must had been very desperate and brave at the same time. One can only imagine the cold he must have felt during that journey...
From what I read, the guy would have fainted long before the "cold" set in due to lack of oxygen.
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sparkly
#13076 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2019 11:08:52 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
mulla wrote:
hardwood wrote:
murchr wrote:
Citizen wrote:
A body on Sunday reportedly fell of the undercarriage of a Kenya Airways aircraft headed to London from Nairobi minutes before landing at the Heathrow Airport.

KQ, in a statement to newsrooms on Monday, said the body of the unidentified male stowaway landed in a garden in the Borough of Lambeth, South London.

The owner of the garden then called London’s Metropolitan Police who tracked the flight radar to KQ Flight 100 where – upon inspection – a bag containing some food and clothing was discovered at the rear left landing gear.

“The incident has been treated as a sudden death and is now a police matter. The police have already been in contact with the Kenya High Commission to help identify and name the person,” read the statement.


That is a very serious security breach at JKIA. There will be consequences.

That guy must had been very desperate and brave at the same time. One can only imagine the cold he must have felt during that journey...
From what I read, the guy would have fainted long before the "cold" set in due to lack of oxygen.


Guy died before the plane left Kenya airspace. Oxygen is required above 15000 feet which is the around half of the cruising altitude.
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murchr
#13077 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2019 11:20:42 PM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mulla wrote:
hardwood wrote:
murchr wrote:
Citizen wrote:
A body on Sunday reportedly fell of the undercarriage of a Kenya Airways aircraft headed to London from Nairobi minutes before landing at the Heathrow Airport.

KQ, in a statement to newsrooms on Monday, said the body of the unidentified male stowaway landed in a garden in the Borough of Lambeth, South London.

The owner of the garden then called London’s Metropolitan Police who tracked the flight radar to KQ Flight 100 where – upon inspection – a bag containing some food and clothing was discovered at the rear left landing gear.

“The incident has been treated as a sudden death and is now a police matter. The police have already been in contact with the Kenya High Commission to help identify and name the person,” read the statement.


That is a very serious security breach at JKIA. There will be consequences.

That guy must had been very desperate and brave at the same time. One can only imagine the cold he must have felt during that journey...
From what I read, the guy would have fainted long before the "cold" set in due to lack of oxygen.


Guy died before the plane left Kenya airspace. Oxygen is required above 15000 feet which is the around half of the cruising altitude.


Incredible that he didnt drop somewhere in the sahara
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VituVingiSana
#13078 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2019 11:35:45 PM
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murchr wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mulla wrote:
hardwood wrote:
murchr wrote:
Citizen wrote:
A body on Sunday reportedly fell of the undercarriage of a Kenya Airways aircraft headed to London from Nairobi minutes before landing at the Heathrow Airport.

KQ, in a statement to newsrooms on Monday, said the body of the unidentified male stowaway landed in a garden in the Borough of Lambeth, South London.

The owner of the garden then called London’s Metropolitan Police who tracked the flight radar to KQ Flight 100 where – upon inspection – a bag containing some food and clothing was discovered at the rear left landing gear.

“The incident has been treated as a sudden death and is now a police matter. The police have already been in contact with the Kenya High Commission to help identify and name the person,” read the statement.


That is a very serious security breach at JKIA. There will be consequences.

That guy must had been very desperate and brave at the same time. One can only imagine the cold he must have felt during that journey...
From what I read, the guy would have fainted long before the "cold" set in due to lack of oxygen.


Guy died before the plane left Kenya airspace. Oxygen is required above 15000 feet which is the around half of the cruising altitude.


Incredible that he didnt drop somewhere in the sahara
Why would the pilots open the wheel well over the Sahara unless it is an emergency landing?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Ericsson
#13079 Posted : Wednesday, July 03, 2019 10:00:04 AM
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Michael Joseph take on KQ;
Turnaround of KQ
-KQ turnaround is not going to be quick,the airline is in deep financial trouble,it is going to take 3-5 years for turnaround,it will take time.
Appointment of CEO;
To turnaround an airline you need deep airline experience,not just somebody you pick from the shelf.

Nationalisation of KQ
It's not something that we want and would like to have .It's something that is necessary for the growth and survival of the airline.
It will then be cross-Subsidised by the airport,airport services.
KQ main competitors are 100% owned by the government.We want to compete at a level playing field.
KQ is not a profit making organisation and would never be.
Look at the impact KQ would have on the GDP of the country.Look at the impact of Ethiopian airlines on Addis,Emirates to Dubai,Turkish Airlines on Turkey
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Jibabe
#13080 Posted : Wednesday, July 03, 2019 1:11:04 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Michael Joseph take on KQ;
Turnaround of KQ
-KQ turnaround is not going to be quick,the airline is in deep financial trouble,it is going to take 3-5 years for turnaround,it will take time.
Appointment of CEO;
To turnaround an airline you need deep airline experience,not just somebody you pick from the shelf.

Nationalisation of KQ
It's not something that we want and would like to have .It's something that is necessary for the growth and survival of the airline.
It will then be cross-Subsidised by the airport,airport services.
KQ main competitors are 100% owned by the government.We want to compete at a level playing field.
KQ is not a profit making organisation and would never be.
Look at the impact KQ would have on the GDP of the country.Look at the impact of Ethiopian airlines on Addis,Emirates to Dubai,Turkish Airlines on Turkey


These assertions are conflicting,if it’s deep financial hole and would take 3-5 years and just had an airline turnaround expert what’s still wrong!
How does nationalisation something I presume was left a while back be the panacea?
Privatisation of KQ was hallowed in management books.
My reading of what Speedway Consultants did was inculcation of operational efficiency ,financial discipline and professionalism things i think thawed as times went on as people took nearly everything for granted .
Nationalisation is and should be a NO
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