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Centum FY 2019 eps up 69% with div of 1.20/-
Kusadikika
#61 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 2:46:33 PM
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What does it tell you when big players want to liquidate assets and hold cash? Centum, Britam. Are these people seeing some gathering clouds somewhere in the horizon? 2022? SGR cash call?
Ericsson
#62 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 2:55:49 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
What does it tell you when big players want to liquidate assets and hold cash? Centum, Britam. Are these people seeing some gathering clouds somewhere in the horizon? 2022? SGR cash call?


Safeguarding their investments from becoming worthless in the said companies.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Kusadikika
#63 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 3:39:39 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
What does it tell you when big players want to liquidate assets and hold cash? Centum, Britam. Are these people seeing some gathering clouds somewhere in the horizon? 2022? SGR cash call?


Safeguarding their investments from becoming worthless in the said companies.


I think there is something more. Even Safaricom is just giving out nearly all the profits in dividends. It is like people just want to get the cash out. Companies are not seeing something they can invest in that will be more valuable in 10 years than the cash today. That is scary.
Ericsson
#64 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 3:48:32 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
What does it tell you when big players want to liquidate assets and hold cash? Centum, Britam. Are these people seeing some gathering clouds somewhere in the horizon? 2022? SGR cash call?


Safeguarding their investments from becoming worthless in the said companies.


I think there is something more. Even Safaricom is just giving out nearly all the profits in dividends. It is like people just want to get the cash out. Companies are not seeing something they can invest in that will be more valuable in 10 years than the cash today. That is scary.


Safaricom isn't selling assets
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Kusadikika
#65 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 4:31:08 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
What does it tell you when big players want to liquidate assets and hold cash? Centum, Britam. Are these people seeing some gathering clouds somewhere in the horizon? 2022? SGR cash call?


Safeguarding their investments from becoming worthless in the said companies.


I think there is something more. Even Safaricom is just giving out nearly all the profits in dividends. It is like people just want to get the cash out. Companies are not seeing something they can invest in that will be more valuable in 10 years than the cash today. That is scary.


Safaricom isn't selling assets


No they are not, they are just not reinvesting profits. Giving it all away in dividends. It means they are not seeing anything worth investing that money in. These are companies that are headed by rather smart people. What are they seeing ahead that is making them say, it is better to have the cash today?
Horton
#66 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 7:12:29 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
What does it tell you when big players want to liquidate assets and hold cash? Centum, Britam. Are these people seeing some gathering clouds somewhere in the horizon? 2022? SGR cash call?


Safeguarding their investments from becoming worthless in the said companies.


I think there is something more. Even Safaricom is just giving out nearly all the profits in dividends. It is like people just want to get the cash out. Companies are not seeing something they can invest in that will be more valuable in 10 years than the cash today. That is scary.


Safaricom isn't selling assets


No they are not, they are just not reinvesting profits. Giving it all away in dividends. It means they are not seeing anything worth investing that money in. These are companies that are headed by rather smart people. What are they seeing ahead that is making them say, it is better to have the cash today?


I think you need to understand that Centum divested from Almasi because they need the cash to pay off maturing debt. That’s really the long and short of it. Don’t need to read too much into it. Nonetheless, none of their businesses are actually great, they have sold the farm.

For Safaricom, apple also just started paying dividends a few years back. Perhaps they have no where to reinvest or perhaps they are just flush with cash.
rwitre
#67 Posted : Saturday, June 29, 2019 10:00:33 AM
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They buy a struggling firm – Centum have lost their mind.

They turn around struggling firm, start making money – Management is keeping all the money to itself. doesn’t care about shareholder value.

They sell said firm for a profit to clear debt – Centum doesn’t know what it is doing by selling its cash cow.

The tunnel-vision in these streets. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
sparkly
#68 Posted : Saturday, June 29, 2019 10:20:40 AM
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rwitre wrote:
They buy a struggling firm – Centum have lost their mind.

They turn around struggling firm, start making money – Management is keeping all the money to itself. doesn’t care about shareholder value.

They sell said firm for a profit to clear debt – Centum doesn’t know what it is doing by selling its cash cow.

The tunnel-vision in these streets. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly



Centum is an investment company. They buy and sell companies, securities and properties for profit.
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VituVingiSana
#69 Posted : Saturday, June 29, 2019 10:22:56 AM
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Horton wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
What does it tell you when big players want to liquidate assets and hold cash? Centum, Britam. Are these people seeing some gathering clouds somewhere in the horizon? 2022? SGR cash call?


Safeguarding their investments from becoming worthless in the said companies.


I think there is something more. Even Safaricom is just giving out nearly all the profits in dividends. It is like people just want to get the cash out. Companies are not seeing something they can invest in that will be more valuable in 10 years than the cash today. That is scary.


Safaricom isn't selling assets


No they are not, they are just not reinvesting profits. Giving it all away in dividends. It means they are not seeing anything worth investing that money in. These are companies that are headed by rather smart people. What are they seeing ahead that is making them say, it is better to have the cash today?


I think you need to understand that Centum divested from Almasi because they need the cash to pay off maturing debt. That’s really the long and short of it. Don’t need to read too much into it. Nonetheless, none of their businesses are actually great, they have sold the farm.

For Safaricom, apple also just started paying dividends a few years back. Perhaps they have no where to reinvest or perhaps they are just flush with cash.

SELL! SELL! SELL!
DO NOT BUY! DO NOT BUY! DO NOT BUY!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Horton
#70 Posted : Tuesday, July 02, 2019 1:39:37 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Horton wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
What does it tell you when big players want to liquidate assets and hold cash? Centum, Britam. Are these people seeing some gathering clouds somewhere in the horizon? 2022? SGR cash call?


Safeguarding their investments from becoming worthless in the said companies.


I think there is something more. Even Safaricom is just giving out nearly all the profits in dividends. It is like people just want to get the cash out. Companies are not seeing something they can invest in that will be more valuable in 10 years than the cash today. That is scary.


Safaricom isn't selling assets


No they are not, they are just not reinvesting profits. Giving it all away in dividends. It means they are not seeing anything worth investing that money in. These are companies that are headed by rather smart people. What are they seeing ahead that is making them say, it is better to have the cash today?


I think you need to understand that Centum divested from Almasi because they need the cash to pay off maturing debt. That’s really the long and short of it. Don’t need to read too much into it. Nonetheless, none of their businesses are actually great, they have sold the farm.

For Safaricom, apple also just started paying dividends a few years back. Perhaps they have no where to reinvest or perhaps they are just flush with cash.

SELL! SELL! SELL!
DO NOT BUY! DO NOT BUY! DO NOT BUY!



Modesty and you are enemies. Wonder what would happen if WB became as cocky as you 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

I had agreed that KK was a good buy however on this one, you are alone. Enjoy the ride
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