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KenGen HY 2019
obiero
#81 Posted : Monday, June 24, 2019 11:09:26 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.kbc.co.ke/kengen-to-set-up-an-energy-research-and-development-laboratory-in-tana/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Some of these off-balance sheet investments like bottling drinking water, running industrial park, Transformer & Solar cell manufacturing are distracting and potentially money losing.

Kengen should just concentrate on power generation and ancillary services like research and engineering. Those other investments are Enron style diversions.

It normally works if semi autonomous offshoots are formed.

General Electric is a good example...


General Electric is not a third world government owned utility company.

So what exactly is your issue? Diversification or the fact that Kengen is a third world government owned utility???

It could also work right here in KE.. Ours is a blessed country with a few rotten elements
COOP, IMH, KQ, MTNU
Metch
#82 Posted : Monday, June 24, 2019 11:14:14 AM
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Joined: 12/22/2015
Posts: 224
Location: Mombasa, Kenya
MaichBlack wrote:
Metch wrote:
sparkly wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.kbc.co.ke/kengen-to-set-up-an-energy-research-and-development-laboratory-in-tana/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Some of these off-balance sheet investments like bottling drinking water, running industrial park, Transformer & Solar cell manufacturing are distracting and potentially money losing.

Kengen should just concentrate on power generation and ancillary services like research and engineering. Those other investments are Enron style diversions.


Reminds me of Mumias...
Important is to keep your eyes peeled. Parachute out at the slightest sign of monkey business

Mumias was not killed by diversification. It was killed by the blatant rape, thuggery, corruption and plunder by some very well known professional thugs!!!


U r right. The point was, as we were celebrating diversification, blatant rape, thuggery, corruption and plunder were taking root in the core business. Diversification was the red herring that took investors' eyes off the ball
Start!
sparkly
#83 Posted : Monday, June 24, 2019 11:23:50 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.kbc.co.ke/kengen-to-set-up-an-energy-research-and-development-laboratory-in-tana/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Some of these off-balance sheet investments like bottling drinking water, running industrial park, Transformer & Solar cell manufacturing are distracting and potentially money losing.

Kengen should just concentrate on power generation and ancillary services like research and engineering. Those other investments are Enron style diversions.

It normally works if semi autonomous offshoots are formed.

General Electric is a good example...


General Electric is not a third world government owned utility company.

So what exactly is your issue? Diversification or the fact that Kengen is a third world government owned utility company???



Your argument is that diversification is good for Kengen. You give an example of GE where diversification has worked well.

My points are as follows:

1. Kengen has not exhausted its core function of investing in power generation. Some argue that Kenya is oversupplied with power. However neighbouring countries are not. As a shareholder, I will be happy if Kengen invests in a power plant in Somalia, Congo, South Sudan, Uganda etc

2. GE is a purely for profit first world conglomerate while Kengen is a third world majority government owned utility company. GE diversification projects are evaluated for ROI and optimal allocation of capital. Kengen projects on the other hand will end up as money draining white elephants. There will be no accountability by management. Peer for comparison for Kengen is Mumias not GE.

3. As a Kengen shareholder, the diversification projects don't inspire confidence. In my opinion, instead of allocating capital in tenderprising projects, they should invest in core power generation, pay down debt or just pay us dividends. That said, I am on the lookout to exit at an appropriate price.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Pesa Nane
#84 Posted : Monday, June 24, 2019 9:24:59 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 5/25/2012
Posts: 4,105
Location: 08c
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.kbc.co.ke/kengen-to-set-up-an-energy-research-and-development-laboratory-in-tana/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Some of these off-balance sheet investments like bottling drinking water, running industrial park, Transformer & Solar cell manufacturing are distracting and potentially money losing.

Kengen should just concentrate on power generation and ancillary services like research and engineering. Those other investments are Enron style diversions.

It normally works if semi autonomous offshoots are formed.

General Electric is a good example...


General Electric is not a third world government owned utility company.

So what exactly is your issue? Diversification or the fact that Kengen is a third world government owned utility???

It could also work right here in KE.. Ours is a blessed country with a few rotten elements


hehe! Reminds me of post #2358 Posted Sunday, October 04, 2015 8:07:29 PM

Not to mention the KQ Airport shuttle and KQ Taxis Laughing out loudly
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
sparkly
#85 Posted : Monday, June 24, 2019 9:56:32 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
sparkly wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
https://www.kbc.co.ke/kengen-to-set-up-an-energy-research-and-development-laboratory-in-tana/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Some of these off-balance sheet investments like bottling drinking water, running industrial park, Transformer & Solar cell manufacturing are distracting and potentially money losing.

Kengen should just concentrate on power generation and ancillary services like research and engineering. Those other investments are Enron style diversions.

It normally works if semi autonomous offshoots are formed.

General Electric is a good example...


General Electric is not a third world government owned utility company.

So what exactly is your issue? Diversification or the fact that Kengen is a third world government owned utility???

It could also work right here in KE.. Ours is a blessed country with a few rotten elements


hehe! Reminds me of post #2358 Posted Sunday, October 04, 2015 8:07:29 PM

Not to mention the KQ Airport shuttle and KQ Taxis Laughing out loudly



Spot on!
Life is short. Live passionately.
Ericsson
#86 Posted : Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:06:38 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,815
Location: NAIROBI
FY comes to an end in Sunday 2359hrs.
Dividend to be retained at 40 cents
Olkaria V commissioning to be done in FY 2019/2020
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#87 Posted : Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:41:12 AM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Ericsson wrote:
FY comes to an end in Sunday 2359hrs.
Dividend to be retained at 40 cents -
Olkaria V commissioning to be done in FY 2019/2020


Rink?
Life is short. Live passionately.
Ericsson
#88 Posted : Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:43:32 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,815
Location: NAIROBI
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
FY comes to an end in Sunday 2359hrs.
Dividend to be retained at 40 cents -
Olkaria V commissioning to be done in FY 2019/2020


Rink?

For dividend that was mentioned during the AGM.
For Olkaria V with the remaining time there is no chance of it coming on board before sunday night.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
KaunganaDoDo
#89 Posted : Tuesday, June 25, 2019 8:07:25 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/6/2018
Posts: 299
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
FY comes to an end in Sunday 2359hrs.
Dividend to be retained at 40 cents -
Olkaria V commissioning to be done in FY 2019/2020


Rink?

For dividend that was mentioned during the AGM.
For Olkaria V with the remaining time there is no chance of it coming on board before sunday night.


Synchronization of Olkaria V to the grid is ongoing. Then the Commercial Tests. Testing and commissioning is an ongoing process. By July 1st, as commissioning continue, dispatch to the grid will continue
Ericsson
#90 Posted : Friday, June 28, 2019 9:25:38 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,815
Location: NAIROBI
KaunganaDoDo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
FY comes to an end in Sunday 2359hrs.
Dividend to be retained at 40 cents -
Olkaria V commissioning to be done in FY 2019/2020


Rink?

For dividend that was mentioned during the AGM.
For Olkaria V with the remaining time there is no chance of it coming on board before sunday night.


Synchronization of Olkaria V to the grid is ongoing. Then the Commercial Tests. Testing and commissioning is an ongoing process. By July 1st, as commissioning continue, dispatch to the grid will continue


(Bloomberg)-----Olkaria V plant expands Kenya Electricity Generating Co.’s geothermal power -producing capacity by one-third to 680 megawatts,Chief Executive Officer Rebecca Miano says by email.
• Company’s total capacity climbs to 1,789 megawatts
• Tests at new plant ongoing before potential connection to grid next month.
• NOTE:Kengen plans to build additional 720 megawatts of generating capacity in five years
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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