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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,559 Location: nairobi
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Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. On KQ.. A revival plan has been drawn out backed by GoK cabinet paper.. Jubilee is the majority party. Handshake is in effect. A sale will be done at a price not less than KES 8.52.. That's a guarantee
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/30/2010 Posts: 1,635
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obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. On KQ.. A revival plan has been drawn out backed by GoK cabinet paper.. Jubilee is the majority party. Handshake is in effect. A sale will be done at a price not less than KES 8.52.. That's a guarantee I met one relationship ship manager of SBG yesterday and he said KQ minority shareholders will be worst hit if government buys out.. They might end up receiving between shs 1-1.50..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,702 Location: NAIROBI
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FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. On KQ.. A revival plan has been drawn out backed by GoK cabinet paper.. Jubilee is the majority party. Handshake is in effect. A sale will be done at a price not less than KES 8.52.. That's a guarantee I met one relationship ship manager of SBG yesterday and he said KQ minority shareholders will be worst hit if government buys out.. They might end up receiving between shs 1-1.50.. That is very true. It will be done in two phases.First phase is minority shareholders at price below 8.52. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,559 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. On KQ.. A revival plan has been drawn out backed by GoK cabinet paper.. Jubilee is the majority party. Handshake is in effect. A sale will be done at a price not less than KES 8.52.. That's a guarantee I met one relationship ship manager of SBG yesterday and he said KQ minority shareholders will be worst hit if government buys out.. They might end up receiving between shs 1-1.50.. That is very true. It will be done in two phases.First phase is minority shareholders at price below 8.52. SBG is an authority? Lol.. Kuweni serious.. There are no preference shares in KQ.. All shareholders rank pari passu, bar for the minority shareholders who anticipate a rights issue to restore equilibrium.. The only reason KQ is trading at current lows is the delayed Open Offer. Look at the volume run since Oct 2017.. Less than 0.01% of all issued shares have traded. Fair value remains KES 12. That's why there was a rally to KES 18.5 upon resumption of trading.. Failure to break KES 22, led to entrapment.. Immediately the KES 1.5B rights issue is announced you shall find out the value of the share
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,702 Location: NAIROBI
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KQs value is zero point something. It has negative equity. Been consistently making losses for 7 years in a row now going to 8th. Its on life supporting machines aka GOK support. Open Offer aka rights issue is dead,doing it will complicate nationalisation and delisting process Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2008 Posts: 503
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. On KQ.. A revival plan has been drawn out backed by GoK cabinet paper.. Jubilee is the majority party. Handshake is in effect. A sale will be done at a price not less than KES 8.52.. That's a guarantee I met one relationship ship manager of SBG yesterday and he said KQ minority shareholders will be worst hit if government buys out.. They might end up receiving between shs 1-1.50.. That is very true. It will be done in two phases.First phase is minority shareholders at price below 8.52. SBG is an authority? Lol.. Kuweni serious.. There are no preference shares in KQ.. All shareholders rank pari passu, bar for the minority shareholders who anticipate a rights issue to restore equilibrium.. The only reason KQ is trading at current lows is the delayed Open Offer. Look at the volume run since Oct 2017.. Less than 0.01% of all issued shares have traded. Fair value remains KES 12. That's why there was a rally to KES 18.5 upon resumption of trading.. Failure to break KES 22, led to entrapment.. Immediately the KES 1.5B rights issue is announced you shall find out the value of the share I need some of what you smoke
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,559 Location: nairobi
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xxxxx wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. On KQ.. A revival plan has been drawn out backed by GoK cabinet paper.. Jubilee is the majority party. Handshake is in effect. A sale will be done at a price not less than KES 8.52.. That's a guarantee I met one relationship ship manager of SBG yesterday and he said KQ minority shareholders will be worst hit if government buys out.. They might end up receiving between shs 1-1.50.. That is very true. It will be done in two phases.First phase is minority shareholders at price below 8.52. SBG is an authority? Lol.. Kuweni serious.. There are no preference shares in KQ.. All shareholders rank pari passu, bar for the minority shareholders who anticipate a rights issue to restore equilibrium.. The only reason KQ is trading at current lows is the delayed Open Offer. Look at the volume run since Oct 2017.. Less than 0.01% of all issued shares have traded. Fair value remains KES 12. That's why there was a rally to KES 18.5 upon resumption of trading.. Failure to break KES 22, led to entrapment.. Immediately the KES 1.5B rights issue is announced you shall find out the value of the share I need some of what you smoke Fortune tellers were mocked even in the Bible
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,559 Location: nairobi
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The Pride of Africa's Zambezi River coming in at CDG
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:nairobby wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:nairobby wrote:I can't believe @obiero averaged down on this stock. You better believe it boss.. Now we await the buy out but only after the rights issue AKA Open Offer.. I will personally take GoK to court if they attempt a squeeze out  Please do. We are behind you with our moral support. Let me mark this post. Here is your interview @vvs AKA Aly Khan Satchu Pkosing is winning me over. I think this model will work best for KQ at this moment. If we are going to look at it as a national asset then this makes some sense. GoK better be ruthless when buying out the existing shareholders, this is not a birthday party. They will be extra cautios because one of the two men holds stakes in two tier I banks under KQLC and the other banks involved are all tier I hence need to keep working operational links positive I agree that KQLC should be paid off in full. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:The 2 Embraers have been written off... It was that bad.  Those behind the "accident" should be jailed. Insurance is not free and this means the insurance rates may be increased going forward. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. On KQ.. A revival plan has been drawn out backed by GoK cabinet paper.. Jubilee is the majority party. Handshake is in effect. A sale will be done at a price not less than KES 8.52.. That's a guarantee I met one relationship ship manager of SBG yesterday and he said KQ minority shareholders will be worst hit if government buys out.. They might end up receiving between shs 1-1.50.. That's 1-1.50 more than the shares are worth. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,559 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:The 2 Embraers have been written off... It was that bad. Those behind the "accident" should be jailed. Insurance is not free and this means the insurance rates may be increased going forward. I forgave the guy. Life goes on
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,559 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. On KQ.. A revival plan has been drawn out backed by GoK cabinet paper.. Jubilee is the majority party. Handshake is in effect. A sale will be done at a price not less than KES 8.52.. That's a guarantee I met one relationship ship manager of SBG yesterday and he said KQ minority shareholders will be worst hit if government buys out.. They might end up receiving between shs 1-1.50.. That's 1-1.50 more than the shares are worth. The converted debt was cold hard cash.. KQ was given a lifeline by KQLC. How no one sees this is amusing
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,702 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:FUNKY wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. On KQ.. A revival plan has been drawn out backed by GoK cabinet paper.. Jubilee is the majority party. Handshake is in effect. A sale will be done at a price not less than KES 8.52.. That's a guarantee I met one relationship ship manager of SBG yesterday and he said KQ minority shareholders will be worst hit if government buys out.. They might end up receiving between shs 1-1.50.. That's 1-1.50 more than the shares are worth. The converted debt was cold hard cash.. KQ was given a lifeline by KQLC. How no one sees this is amusing And KQLC have a signed deed that irrespective of prevailing share price of kq they can only be paid off at minimum sh.8.52 Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. If @Obiero losses 1 bob on KQ, that is 25% of his investment. If I lose 67 cts on HAFR, that is 100% of my investment. Clearly HAFR is a riskier investment. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,559 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. If @Obiero losses 1 bob on KQ, that is 25% of his investment. If I lose 67 cts on HAFR, that is 100% of my investment. Clearly HAFR is a riskier investment. Indeed HAFR is riskier because it has no future prospects of recovery
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. If @Obiero losses 1 bob on KQ, that is 25% of his investment. If I lose 67 cts on HAFR, that is 100% of my investment. Clearly HAFR is a riskier investment. Indeed HAFR is riskier brecause it has no future prospects of buyout Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,559 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. If @Obiero losses 1 bob on KQ, that is 25% of his investment. If I lose 67 cts on HAFR, that is 100% of my investment. Clearly HAFR is a riskier investment. Indeed HAFR is riskier brecause it has no future prospects of buyout Potato potato
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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sparkly wrote:Impunity wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return Na watu wa Home Afrika? HAFR will never rise above KES 1 Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right? Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables. If @Obiero losses 1 bob on KQ, that is 25% of his investment. If I lose 67 cts on HAFR, that is 100% of my investment. Clearly HAFR is a riskier investment. It is easier for Obiero to lose 100% of his KQ holdings coz no one gives a shiet about minority shareholders in KQ...unlike HAFR whose minority got some voice. Portfolio: Sold
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