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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
VituVingiSana
#13011 Posted : Sunday, June 23, 2019 11:29:33 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,349
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
The 2 Embraers have been written off... It was that bad.

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Those behind the "accident" should be jailed. Insurance is not free and this means the insurance rates may be increased going forward.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#13012 Posted : Sunday, June 23, 2019 11:31:42 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,349
Location: Nairobi
FUNKY wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return



Na watu wa Home Afrika?

HAFR will never rise above KES 1


Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right?


Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables.

On KQ.. A revival plan has been drawn out backed by GoK cabinet paper.. Jubilee is the majority party. Handshake is in effect. A sale will be done at a price not less than KES 8.52.. That's a guarantee


I met one relationship ship manager of SBG yesterday and he said KQ minority shareholders will be worst hit if government buys out.. They might end up receiving between shs 1-1.50..
That's 1-1.50 more than the shares are worth.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#13013 Posted : Sunday, June 23, 2019 11:32:02 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,223
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
The 2 Embraers have been written off... It was that bad.

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Those behind the "accident" should be jailed. Insurance is not free and this means the insurance rates may be increased going forward.

I forgave the guy. Life goes on

obiero
#13014 Posted : Sunday, June 23, 2019 11:33:48 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,223
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return



Na watu wa Home Afrika?

HAFR will never rise above KES 1


Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right?


Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables.

On KQ.. A revival plan has been drawn out backed by GoK cabinet paper.. Jubilee is the majority party. Handshake is in effect. A sale will be done at a price not less than KES 8.52.. That's a guarantee


I met one relationship ship manager of SBG yesterday and he said KQ minority shareholders will be worst hit if government buys out.. They might end up receiving between shs 1-1.50..
That's 1-1.50 more than the shares are worth.

The converted debt was cold hard cash.. KQ was given a lifeline by KQLC. How no one sees this is amusing

Ericsson
#13015 Posted : Sunday, June 23, 2019 5:06:46 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,808
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return



Na watu wa Home Afrika?

HAFR will never rise above KES 1


Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right?


Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables.

On KQ.. A revival plan has been drawn out backed by GoK cabinet paper.. Jubilee is the majority party. Handshake is in effect. A sale will be done at a price not less than KES 8.52.. That's a guarantee


I met one relationship ship manager of SBG yesterday and he said KQ minority shareholders will be worst hit if government buys out.. They might end up receiving between shs 1-1.50..
That's 1-1.50 more than the shares are worth.

The converted debt was cold hard cash.. KQ was given a lifeline by KQLC. How no one sees this is amusing


And KQLC have a signed deed that irrespective of prevailing share price of kq they can only be paid off at minimum sh.8.52
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#13016 Posted : Sunday, June 23, 2019 6:42:31 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Impunity wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return



Na watu wa Home Afrika?

HAFR will never rise above KES 1


Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right?


Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables.


If @Obiero losses 1 bob on KQ, that is 25% of his investment. If I lose 67 cts on HAFR, that is 100% of my investment. Clearly HAFR is a riskier investment.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#13017 Posted : Sunday, June 23, 2019 6:58:49 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,223
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return



Na watu wa Home Afrika?

HAFR will never rise above KES 1


Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right?


Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables.


If @Obiero losses 1 bob on KQ, that is 25% of his investment. If I lose 67 cts on HAFR, that is 100% of my investment. Clearly HAFR is a riskier investment.

Indeed HAFR is riskier because it has no future prospects of recovery

sparkly
#13018 Posted : Sunday, June 23, 2019 8:43:21 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return



Na watu wa Home Afrika?

HAFR will never rise above KES 1


Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right?


Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables.


If @Obiero losses 1 bob on KQ, that is 25% of his investment. If I lose 67 cts on HAFR, that is 100% of my investment. Clearly HAFR is a riskier investment.

Indeed HAFR is riskier brecause it has no future prospects of buyout

Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#13019 Posted : Sunday, June 23, 2019 9:43:29 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,223
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return



Na watu wa Home Afrika?

HAFR will never rise above KES 1


Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right?


Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables.


If @Obiero losses 1 bob on KQ, that is 25% of his investment. If I lose 67 cts on HAFR, that is 100% of my investment. Clearly HAFR is a riskier investment.

Indeed HAFR is riskier brecause it has no future prospects of buyout


Potato potato

Impunity
#13020 Posted : Monday, June 24, 2019 8:02:11 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
sparkly wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
For each KES 1 move I either gain or loose KES 221,100.. High risk, high return



Na watu wa Home Afrika?

HAFR will never rise above KES 1


Which means HAFR is higher risk than KQ, right?


Not necessarily...depends on alot of variables.


If @Obiero losses 1 bob on KQ, that is 25% of his investment. If I lose 67 cts on HAFR, that is 100% of my investment. Clearly HAFR is a riskier investment.


It is easier for Obiero to lose 100% of his KQ holdings coz no one gives a shiet about minority shareholders in KQ...unlike HAFR whose minority got some voice.
Portfolio: Sold
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