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VituVingiSana
#12951 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:35:38 AM
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Why not convert the 777-300 to a 250-300 (from 400) seats plane by adding cargo space. Use it for the China route. Lots of goods come via Nairobi onwards to Central, Southern and West Africa especially to cities that Emirates, Etihad and Qatar don't serve.

KQ could be the first airline with a 777 combi. Or 3!

"When ordering the new 747s, KLM knew that they would be unable to completely fill the aircraft on some of their routes. This made the Combi aircraft very attractive for the carrier, as it allowed them to earn cargo revenue to make up for the lack of passenger revenue." https://airlinegeeks.com...g-klms-unique-747-combi/
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nairobby
#12952 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:45:50 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Why not convert the 777-300 to a 250-300 (from 400) seats plane by adding cargo space. Use it for the China route. Lots of goods come via Nairobi onwards to Central, Southern and West Africa especially to cities that Emirates, Etihad and Qatar don't serve.

KQ may be the first airline with a 777 combi.


Is this even possible?

My take, add more of the planes that are freakishly good at ferrying passengers efficiently (787's and 737 Max/A321 neo)

I wish there was a way in which KQ could switch the 77W for the 787-9..

Grow KQ cargo with more freighters.
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maka
#12953 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:54:43 AM
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nairobby wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Why not convert the 777-300 to a 250-300 (from 400) seats plane by adding cargo space. Use it for the China route. Lots of goods come via Nairobi onwards to Central, Southern and West Africa especially to cities that Emirates, Etihad and Qatar don't serve.

KQ may be the first airline with a 777 combi.


Is this even possible?

My take, add more of the planes that are freakishly good at ferrying passengers efficiently (787's and 737 Max/A321 neo)

I wish there was a way in which KQ could switch the 77W for the 787-9..

Grow KQ cargo with more freighters.


True cargo would make the company quite a bit of cash... It is a neglected divison at the airline...

possunt quia posse videntur
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obiero
#12954 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:52:56 AM
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maka wrote:
nairobby wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Why not convert the 777-300 to a 250-300 (from 400) seats plane by adding cargo space. Use it for the China route. Lots of goods come via Nairobi onwards to Central, Southern and West Africa especially to cities that Emirates, Etihad and Qatar don't serve.

KQ may be the first airline with a 777 combi.


Is this even possible?

My take, add more of the planes that are freakishly good at ferrying passengers efficiently (787's and 737 Max/A321 neo)

I wish there was a way in which KQ could switch the 77W for the 787-9..

Grow KQ cargo with more freighters.


True cargo would make the company quite a bit of cash... It is a neglected divison at the airline...


Exporters to USA are literally begging for additional capacity

KQ ABP 4.26
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obiero
#12955 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:54:58 AM
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Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/shipping/Flower-exporters-seek-more-space-on-KQ-flight-to-US/4003122-5162450-fr0hc6z/index.html
“The two tonnes capacity for the flower exporters is just a drop in the ocean as compared to the current market demand of more than 10 tonnes. If what we are delivering in New York is a small quantity, it will not be able to create the necessary hype around the Kenyan flower brand,” said Tulezi.
The Kenya Flower Council said it is engaging the Trade PS Dr. Chris Kiptoo who promised to bring onboard his Transport counterpart Esther Koimett, to discuss the matter before engaging the Kenya Airways.
Currently, KQ’s is the only direct flight to the US from Kenya and its cargo space is always fully booked leaving exporters to use connecting flights which have high risks and adversely affect the quality of the produce upon arrival to the designated markets.


kq should take this opportunity before a competitor comes in


They should have rekitted the 777-300ER and roll a dice


Haha, looks like the massive capital wipeout you've faced hasn't phased you. If that plane was brought back we'd start heading back to 2015 numbers


2015 figures were partly due to the massive fraud unearthed by the forensic audit. Even fuel was being stolen. With an expanded network that plane can serve KQ very well. No major difference with the -200ER KQ operated for a decade.

Do not rely so much on Ngunze’s shallow arguments and decisions. He had no expertise in aviation at all.

Exactly. Over 300 seats but on specific long haul it would have worked.. At least one or two.. But three of the craft was too ambitious


Your reasoning is worse than Ngunze's.
Shame on you

Hahaha.. Wewe na mama yako mnafanana tu

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obiero
#12956 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:56:52 AM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/shipping/Flower-exporters-seek-more-space-on-KQ-flight-to-US/4003122-5162450-fr0hc6z/index.html
“The two tonnes capacity for the flower exporters is just a drop in the ocean as compared to the current market demand of more than 10 tonnes. If what we are delivering in New York is a small quantity, it will not be able to create the necessary hype around the Kenyan flower brand,” said Tulezi.
The Kenya Flower Council said it is engaging the Trade PS Dr. Chris Kiptoo who promised to bring onboard his Transport counterpart Esther Koimett, to discuss the matter before engaging the Kenya Airways.
Currently, KQ’s is the only direct flight to the US from Kenya and its cargo space is always fully booked leaving exporters to use connecting flights which have high risks and adversely affect the quality of the produce upon arrival to the designated markets.


kq should take this opportunity before a competitor comes in


They should have rekitted the 777-300ER and roll a dice


Haha, looks like the massive capital wipeout you've faced hasn't phased you. If that plane was brought back we'd start heading back to 2015 numbers


2015 figures were partly due to the massive fraud unearthed by the forensic audit. Even fuel was being stolen. With an expanded network that plane can serve KQ very well. No major difference with the -200ER KQ operated for a decade.

Do not rely so much on Ngunze’s shallow arguments and decisions. He had no expertise in aviation at all.

Exactly. Over 300 seats but on specific long haul it would have worked.. At least one or two.. But three of the craft was too ambitious


Ummh for example which routes?

Joburg, Mumbai and Dubai.. Just wing it!

KQ ABP 4.26
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obiero
#12957 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:48:15 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/KQ-owners-face-Treasury-buyout/539546-5163030-i8y6n7z/index.html

Hii story will be closed very soon. The financiers will get their money na KQ will continue kwa stlye yake
At least KQLC owners like Equity, NIC and I&M will be paid.

What will be the buyout price? What happens to the KES 1.5B rights issue? A court case is inevitable, if the two questions are not handled well

KQ ABP 4.26
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Ericsson
#12958 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 1:00:07 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/KQ-owners-face-Treasury-buyout/539546-5163030-i8y6n7z/index.html

Hii story will be closed very soon. The financiers will get their money na KQ will continue kwa stlye yake
At least KQLC owners like Equity, NIC and I&M will be paid.

What will be the buyout price? What happens to the KES 1.5B rights issue? A court case is inevitable, if the two questions are not handled well


Is the right issue a must?
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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VituVingiSana
#12959 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 1:04:36 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/KQ-owners-face-Treasury-buyout/539546-5163030-i8y6n7z/index.html

Hii story will be closed very soon. The financiers will get their money na KQ will continue kwa stlye yake
At least KQLC owners like Equity, NIC and I&M will be paid.

What will be the buyout price? What happens to the KES 1.5B rights issue? A court case is inevitable, if the two questions are not handled well
Let GoK buy out KQLC first at the conversion price. The issues with the Minorities can be discussed later. Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#12960 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 1:12:48 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/KQ-owners-face-Treasury-buyout/539546-5163030-i8y6n7z/index.html

Hii story will be closed very soon. The financiers will get their money na KQ will continue kwa stlye yake
At least KQLC owners like Equity, NIC and I&M will be paid.

What will be the buyout price? What happens to the KES 1.5B rights issue? A court case is inevitable, if the two questions are not handled well
Let GoK buy out KQLC first at the conversion price. The issues with the Minorities can be discussed later. Laughing out loudly

Wewe mzee nitakutwanga mangumi

KQ ABP 4.26
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