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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:Kenya Airways Chief Executive Sebastian Mikosz was paid a total of Sh62.89 million last year, indicating average earnings of Sh5.2 million per month for the boss of the loss-making national carrier.
Mr Mikosz’s executive pay comprised a salary of Sh42 million, allowances worth Sh16.4 million and non-cash benefits amounting to Sh4.44 million.
The Polish citizen was hired in June 2017 to turn around the struggling airline that last year reported an after-tax loss of Sh7.5 billion, compared with Sh6.4 billion suffered in the previous year.
Listed companies are by law required to reveal the pay of their senior executives as well as directors.
The CEO’s pay stood at Sh46.69 million in 2017 during which he worked for seven months, translating into an average monthly pay of Sh6.67 million.
Somebody questioned me about this.. Well the truth is here... Its actually more btw... Ati 2.4m per month....lol Fair pay for a demanding role.. This is not a window cleaner bwana. He is the CEO of Africa's third largest airline Sawa kabisa.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,560 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:the deal wrote:End game here is GoK making an offer and then delist... A tiered offer.. One for the minority shareholders incorporating the Open Offer and the other for the benenefiacries to the restructuring.. Anything else will leave the NSE hurtling towards sub 1,000.. Especially since KQ has been officially added to the 20 share index this week.. 80,000 minority shareholders in KQ isn't a small number of retail investors in relation to total CDS account count When you find yourself in a deep hole, you stop digging. If you are not bold, but incase its an oil drilling or gold mining mission, you go deeper and deeper with full knowledge that you may end up striking meaningless dust or pure gems.. KES 12 remains fair value. The traders who have been purchasing significant volumes in the past 4 trading sessions shall be the luckiest of all.. Tomorrow I close up my final averaging down purchase and then await June 3rd.. Kamikaze! 
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,560 Location: nairobi
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Early drafts.. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst   
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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Is it regarding open offer? Us new buyers are not interested in open offer...plus it's not possible at current price ...let the share price recover please...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,560 Location: nairobi
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@the deal I envy you.. I wish I had sold out when the bloody thing hit KES 18.5 during relisting in 2017, then waited for it down here at current price
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,560 Location: nairobi
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@the deal I envy you.. I wish I had sold out when the bloody thing hit KES 18.5 during relisting in 2017, then waited for it down here at current price
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,560 Location: nairobi
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Patience pays.. https://www.businessdail...27480-2rkhqfz/index.html
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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[quote=obiero]Patience pays.. https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html[/quote] Patience will only get you hurt @ obiero. Restructuring with the redemption clause will burn you to recognition broda. I regret loss of a good script for you to ponder over. This is a straight corn-in-a-manship at it's best. By June sub tbili will be knocking hard on the door. Kqlcltd is not your village sheep. Watch and learn and as always, it's not easy being Green in these matters. Google up that joke btn Edison and Tesla on $50k and probably you will understand our Americans 😊 jokes better Am ready to place a bet on this 💪. Let me get invitations. J.K.I.A is just the icing on the cake. Tulia urandwe.  ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,560 Location: nairobi
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muandiwambeu wrote:[quote=obiero]Patience pays.. https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html[/quote] Patience will only get you hurt @ obiero. Restructuring with the redemption clause will burn you to recognition broda. I regret loss of a good script for you to ponder over. This is a straight corn-in-a-manship at it's best. By June sub tbili will be knocking hard on the door. Kqlcltd is not your village sheep. Watch and learn and as always, it's not easy being Green in these matters. Google up that joke btn Edison and Tesla on $50k and probably you will understand our Americans 😊 jokes better Am ready to place a bet on this 💪. Let me get invitations. J.K.I.A is just the icing on the cake. Tulia urandwe. Well we will tell by June 3rd. Total volume traded this week is greater than total traded volume over last 6 months. Utajua hujui
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:[quote=obiero]Patience pays.. https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html[/quote] Patience will only get you hurt @ obiero. Restructuring with the redemption clause will burn you to recognition broda. I regret loss of a good script for you to ponder over. This is a straight corn-in-a-manship at it's best. By June sub tbili will be knocking hard on the door. Kqlcltd is not your village sheep. Watch and learn and as always, it's not easy being Green in these matters. Google up that joke btn Edison and Tesla on $50k and probably you will understand our Americans 😊 jokes better Am ready to place a bet on this 💪. Let me get invitations. J.K.I.A is just the icing on the cake. Tulia urandwe. Well we will tell by June 3rd. Total volume traded this week is greater than total traded volume over last 6 months. Utajua hujui What do u think gonna change sir. ppp will sail through¿? And for the purposes of getting things right, it's u and who will be telling right then. Don't rope me into it. my stand is simple, that hullabaloo won't last long. Golden window to land otherwise, peace. Massaging (******) egos has never been better. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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Seasons, but there are signs. And this is not a bad one too. Only if u know your stand ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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nairobby wrote:Until operational costs are addressed there is no progress being made.
MJ mentioned they started hedging, this was for up to which period? If they started in Q4 2018 then that was a wise move. They spent 10b more on fuel in 2018 yikes.
The finance costs are much lower than I expected. Their long term borrowings have an effective interest rate of 4.26%.
They spent 14b on Aircraft landing, handling & navigation? Is that the norm? Seems so high to me. Almost double what they spend on maintenance.
I am hoping Mikosz's strategies will pay off. I support the network expansion to increase revenues but I still wouldn't buy KQ shares. It's best if they delist it and let the turnaround continue outside the market. I will be stuck on u.,,,,, Ooh not u ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,560 Location: nairobi
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muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:[quote=obiero]Patience pays.. https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html[/quote] Patience will only get you hurt @ obiero. Restructuring with the redemption clause will burn you to recognition broda. I regret loss of a good script for you to ponder over. This is a straight corn-in-a-manship at it's best. By June sub tbili will be knocking hard on the door. Kqlcltd is not your village sheep. Watch and learn and as always, it's not easy being Green in these matters. Google up that joke btn Edison and Tesla on $50k and probably you will understand our Americans 😊 jokes better Am ready to place a bet on this 💪. Let me get invitations. J.K.I.A is just the icing on the cake. Tulia urandwe. Well we will tell by June 3rd. Total volume traded this week is greater than total traded volume over last 6 months. Utajua hujui What do u think gonna change sir. ppp will sail through¿? And for the purposes of getting things right, it's u and who will be telling right then. Don't rope me into it. my stand is simple, that hullabaloo won't last long. Golden window to land otherwise, peace. Massaging (******) egos has never been better. In as long as the Open Offer will be at a lower price to the current market price.. I am personally back in the money. The gamble of a lifetime is about to pay off
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,560 Location: nairobi
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muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:Patience will only get you hurt @ obiero. Restructuring with the redemption clause will burn you to recognition broda. I regret loss of a good script for you to ponder over. This is a straight corn-in-a-manship at it's best. By June sub tbili will be knocking hard on the door. Kqlcltd is not your village sheep. Watch and learn and as always, it's not easy being Green in these matters. Google up that joke btn Edison and Tesla on $50k and probably you will understand our Americans 😊 jokes better Am ready to place a bet on this 💪. Let me get invitations. J.K.I.A is just the icing on the cake. Tulia urandwe. Well we will tell by June 3rd. Total volume traded this week is greater than total traded volume over last 6 months. Utajua hujui What do u think gonna change sir. ppp will sail through¿? And for the purposes of getting things right, it's u and who will be telling right then. Don't rope me into it. my stand is simple, that hullabaloo won't last long. Golden window to land otherwise, peace. Massaging (******) egos has never been better. In as long as the Open Offer will be at a lower price to the current market price.. I am personally back in the money. The gamble of a lifetime is about to pay off, especially coupled with KAHL proposals slated for disclosure early next month.. The exchange bar projects issuance in 4:1 ratio at KES 2.4 per Open Offer share 
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:[quote=obiero]Patience pays.. https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html[/quote] Patience will only get you hurt @ obiero. Restructuring with the redemption clause will burn you to recognition broda. I regret loss of a good script for you to ponder over. This is a straight corn-in-a-manship at it's best. By June sub tbili will be knocking hard on the door. Kqlcltd is not your village sheep. Watch and learn and as always, it's not easy being Green in these matters. Google up that joke btn Edison and Tesla on $50k and probably you will understand our Americans 😊 jokes better Am ready to place a bet on this 💪. Let me get invitations. J.K.I.A is just the icing on the cake. Tulia urandwe. Well we will tell by June 3rd. Total volume traded this week is greater than total traded volume over last 6 months. Utajua hujui What do u think gonna change sir. ppp will sail through¿? And for the purposes of getting things right, it's u and who will be telling right then. Don't rope me into it. my stand is simple, that hullabaloo won't last long. Golden window to land otherwise, peace. Massaging (******) egos has never been better. In as long as the Open Offer will be at a lower price to the current market price.. I am personally back in the money. The gamble of a lifetime is about to pay off 1. Sunk cost fallacy 2. Fallen angels eventually go back up fallacy 3. Averaging down converts a loss into a profit position fallacy 4. Throwing good money at bad money I may be wrong, only time will tell but so far time has proven me right. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2008 Posts: 503
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:[quote=obiero]Patience pays.. https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html[/quote] Patience will only get you hurt @ obiero. Restructuring with the redemption clause will burn you to recognition broda. I regret loss of a good script for you to ponder over. This is a straight corn-in-a-manship at it's best. By June sub tbili will be knocking hard on the door. Kqlcltd is not your village sheep. Watch and learn and as always, it's not easy being Green in these matters. Google up that joke btn Edison and Tesla on $50k and probably you will understand our Americans 😊 jokes better Am ready to place a bet on this 💪. Let me get invitations. J.K.I.A is just the icing on the cake. Tulia urandwe. Well we will tell by June 3rd. Total volume traded this week is greater than total traded volume over last 6 months. Utajua hujui What do u think gonna change sir. ppp will sail through¿? And for the purposes of getting things right, it's u and who will be telling right then. Don't rope me into it. my stand is simple, that hullabaloo won't last long. Golden window to land otherwise, peace. Massaging (******) egos has never been better. In as long as the Open Offer will be at a lower price to the current market price.. I am personally back in the money. The gamble of a lifetime is about to pay off 1. Sunk cost fallacy 2. Fallen angels eventually go back up fallacy 3. Averaging down converts a loss into a profit position fallacy 4. Throwing good money at bad money I may be wrong, only time will tell but so far time has proven me right. Opportunity to load up on KQ.. https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html
If only @obiero could buy all these shares.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,560 Location: nairobi
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xxxxx wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:[quote=obiero]Patience pays.. https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html[/quote] Patience will only get you hurt @ obiero. Restructuring with the redemption clause will burn you to recognition broda. I regret loss of a good script for you to ponder over. This is a straight corn-in-a-manship at it's best. By June sub tbili will be knocking hard on the door. Kqlcltd is not your village sheep. Watch and learn and as always, it's not easy being Green in these matters. Google up that joke btn Edison and Tesla on $50k and probably you will understand our Americans 😊 jokes better Am ready to place a bet on this 💪. Let me get invitations. J.K.I.A is just the icing on the cake. Tulia urandwe. Well we will tell by June 3rd. Total volume traded this week is greater than total traded volume over last 6 months. Utajua hujui What do u think gonna change sir. ppp will sail through¿? And for the purposes of getting things right, it's u and who will be telling right then. Don't rope me into it. my stand is simple, that hullabaloo won't last long. Golden window to land otherwise, peace. Massaging (******) egos has never been better. In as long as the Open Offer will be at a lower price to the current market price.. I am personally back in the money. The gamble of a lifetime is about to pay off 1. Sunk cost fallacy 2. Fallen angels eventually go back up fallacy 3. Averaging down converts a loss into a profit position fallacy 4. Throwing good money at bad money I may be wrong, only time will tell but so far time has proven me right. Opportunity to load up on KQ.. https://www.businessdail...com/corporate/companies ies/KQ-revives-Sh1-5bn-rights-issue-plan/4003102-5127480-2rkhqfz/index.html If only @obiero could buy all these shares. There's no straight path to heaven.. And no journey to success follows one road.. To each his/her own
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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xxxxx wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:[quote=obiero]Patience pays.. https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html[/quote] Patience will only get you hurt @ obiero. Restructuring with the redemption clause will burn you to recognition broda. I regret loss of a good script for you to ponder over. This is a straight corn-in-a-manship at it's best. By June sub tbili will be knocking hard on the door. Kqlcltd is not your village sheep. Watch and learn and as always, it's not easy being Green in these matters. Google up that joke btn Edison and Tesla on $50k and probably you will understand our Americans 😊 jokes better Am ready to place a bet on this 💪. Let me get invitations. J.K.I.A is just the icing on the cake. Tulia urandwe. Well we will tell by June 3rd. Total volume traded this week is greater than total traded volume over last 6 months. Utajua hujui What do u think gonna change sir. ppp will sail through¿? And for the purposes of getting things right, it's u and who will be telling right then. Don't rope me into it. my stand is simple, that hullabaloo won't last long. Golden window to land otherwise, peace. Massaging (******) egos has never been better. In as long as the Open Offer will be at a lower price to the current market price.. I am personally back in the money. The gamble of a lifetime is about to pay off 1. Sunk cost fallacy 2. Fallen angels eventually go back up fallacy 3. Averaging down converts a loss into a profit position fallacy 4. Throwing good money at bad money I may be wrong, only time will tell but so far time has proven me right. Opportunity to load up on KQ.. https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html
If only @obiero could buy all these shares. KQ is gobbling shareholders equity at a rate of 8 B per year. @Obiero's !.5 B will be gobbled up in 2 months. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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Share price could start falling because of this open offer thing...how do you do an open offer at 3.70? But the good news is KQ management is atleat considerate towards minority shareholders who got diluted during the debt restructuring ....
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/18/2019 Posts: 185 Location: kenya
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maka wrote:Kenya Airways Chief Executive Sebastian Mikosz was paid a total of Sh62.89 million last year, indicating average earnings of Sh5.2 million per month for the boss of the loss-making national carrier.
Mr Mikosz’s executive pay comprised a salary of Sh42 million, allowances worth Sh16.4 million and non-cash benefits amounting to Sh4.44 million.
The Polish citizen was hired in June 2017 to turn around the struggling airline that last year reported an after-tax loss of Sh7.5 billion, compared with Sh6.4 billion suffered in the previous year.
Listed companies are by law required to reveal the pay of their senior executives as well as directors.
The CEO’s pay stood at Sh46.69 million in 2017 during which he worked for seven months, translating into an average monthly pay of Sh6.67 million.
Somebody questioned me about this.. Well the truth is here... Its actually more btw... Ati 2.4m per month....lol 2.4? It clearly says 5.2m unless I'm seeing my own things. The pay is fair, it is not a small role
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