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KenyaRe FY19 - FY23 (Both Inclusive)
VituVingiSana
#81 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 5:53:33 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maichblack
@monk
@KenyanOracle
@Heri
@Aguy
@Kaufman
@miennyma

Who is on this bus to Canaan with me?

How can you forget me?

I had no idea. Karibuni.
The group above were with me in KK. I was already on the KenRe bus but I am not getting off as long as Mwarania is the CEO/MD. It will be a bumpy ride with detours lakini tutafika Canaan.
Lini? Sijui.

Ya ARM ulirusha watu ndani ya mto..

@xxxxx and @fyatu are welcome to join but I think their style is different. I may be mistaken.

No-one is excluded. @sparkly @ann and even @mugundaman.
Even @young all the way in Nigeria.
@pesanane who keeps us informed by posting the announcements.

Of course, BUYER BEWARE.
I do not promise/offer "Open Offers" "Exchange Bar" "Inside Information" "Takeoffs" "Code" and all that funny stuff. Laughing out loudly
No guarantees. Plenty of risk given it is a GoK (60%) entity.

What I offer is analysis of what is in the news, press releases and financial statements.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#82 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 6:07:33 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maichblack
@monk
@KenyanOracle
@Heri
@Aguy
@Kaufman
@miennyma

Who is on this bus to Canaan with me?

How can you forget me?

I had no idea. Karibuni.
The group above were with me in KK. I was already on the KenRe bus but I am not getting off as long as Mwarania is the CEO/MD. It will be a bumpy ride with detours lakini tutafika Canaan.
Lini? Sijui.

Ya ARM ulirusha watu ndani ya mto..

@xxxxx and @fyatu are welcome to join but I think their style is different. I may be mistaken.

No-one is excluded. @sparkly @ann and even @mugundaman.
Even @young all the way in Nigeria.
@pesanane who keeps us informed by posting the announcements.

Of course, BUYER BEWARE.
I do not promise/offer "Open Offers" "Exchange Bar" "Inside Information" "Takeoffs" "Code" and all that funny stuff. Laughing out loudly
No guarantees. Plenty of risk given it is a GoK (60%) entity.

What I offer is analysis of what is in the news, press releases and financial statements.

Well well. Analysis sure didn't help you with ARM

KQ ABP 4.26
Ericsson
#83 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 7:16:58 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Kenya Re is number 3 in the shareholders list of NBK.
In July they are to get KCB shares in exchange for the acquisition.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
xxxxx
#84 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 7:53:07 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 3/20/2008
Posts: 503
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maichblack
@monk
@KenyanOracle
@Heri
@Aguy
@Kaufman
@miennyma

Who is on this bus to Canaan with me?

How can you forget me?

I had no idea. Karibuni.
The group above were with me in KK. I was already on the KenRe bus but I am not getting off as long as Mwarania is the CEO/MD. It will be a bumpy ride with detours lakini tutafika Canaan.
Lini? Sijui.

Ya ARM ulirusha watu ndani ya mto..

@xxxxx and @fyatu are welcome to join but I think their style is different. I may be mistaken.

No-one is excluded. @sparkly @ann and even @mugundaman.
Even @young all the way in Nigeria.
@pesanane who keeps us informed by posting the announcements.

Of course, BUYER BEWARE.
I do not promise/offer "Open Offers" "Exchange Bar" "Inside Information" "Takeoffs" "Code" and all that funny stuff. Laughing out loudly
No guarantees. Plenty of risk given it is a GoK (60%) entity.

What I offer is analysis of what is in the news, press releases and financial statements.



I won't join this bus coz I think news is priced in. The interesting question though, is, how you always find yourself invested in entities that sooner or later effect these interventions (Let me call them Special Situations). Applause
VituVingiSana
#85 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 8:24:18 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
@xxxxx - Fortune favors the prepared. No, I am NOT tooting my horn.
The KenRe bonus is perplexing. I still can't figure it out.

After my debacle in KQ, brush with Olympia, etc... I started re-reading what Warren Buffett had written.
He discussed Corporate Governance, Moats, Margin of Safety, Long-term/forever holding periods, issues/risks with turnarounds, cutting losses, socks and stocks at discounts, etc.

I do not always succeed. I may choose to deviate from his teachings. Ouch. Think ARM.

He also does not win at every investment but as WB (& his partner Munger) says the goal is to have more/larger Winners than Losers.

Back to KenRe. What attracted me to KenRe was the cash (includes bonds) on hand, conservative (Tier 1 banks, T-Bonds) nature of the investments, low PER, low P/BV, slow but generally steady growth, zero net debt and a sensible MD/CEO.

“Charlie (Munger) and I would much rather earn a lumpy 15 percent over time than a smooth 12 percent.” – Warren Buffett
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Fyatu
#86 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 8:26:31 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 1/20/2011
Posts: 1,820
Location: Nakuru
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maichblack
@monk
@KenyanOracle
@Heri
@Aguy
@Kaufman
@miennyma

Who is on this bus to Canaan with me?

How can you forget me?

I had no idea. Karibuni.
The group above were with me in KK. I was already on the KenRe bus but I am not getting off as long as Mwarania is the CEO/MD. It will be a bumpy ride with detours lakini tutafika Canaan.
Lini? Sijui.

Ya ARM ulirusha watu ndani ya mto..

@xxxxx and @fyatu are welcome to join but I think their style is different. I may be mistaken.

No-one is excluded. @sparkly @ann and even @mugundaman.
Even @young all the way in Nigeria.
@pesanane who keeps us informed by posting the announcements.

Of course, BUYER BEWARE.
I do not promise/offer "Open Offers" "Exchange Bar" "Inside Information" "Takeoffs" "Code" and all that funny stuff. Laughing out loudly
No guarantees. Plenty of risk given it is a GoK (60%) entity.

What I offer is analysis of what is in the news, press releases and financial statements.



Just like other GoK firms(Kenya Power, Kengen) KenRe has all along been very attractive to me on paper(low P.E., Earnings > 10%, high discount on book value etc). Unfortunately, this opportunity comes up when i have no money.
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
the deal
#87 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 10:21:31 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/25/2009
Posts: 4,534
Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
Good opportunity to SELL....
obiero
#88 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 10:34:53 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
the deal wrote:
Good opportunity to SELL....

Once in a lifetime opportunity

KQ ABP 4.26
xxxxx
#89 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 10:36:37 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 3/20/2008
Posts: 503
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
Good opportunity to SELL....

Once in a lifetime opportunity


I tend to concur....although in my heart of hearts I know the market loves making fools of us every so often.
MaichBlack
#90 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 10:48:46 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,838
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maichblack
@monk
@KenyanOracle
@Heri
@Aguy
@Kaufman
@miennyma

Who is on this bus to Canaan with me?

Niko ndaaaaaani ndani ndani kapsaaa!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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