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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,563 Location: nairobi
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KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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obiero wrote:KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave Sub 2bob finally printing...wow!  Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,563 Location: nairobi
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Impunity wrote:obiero wrote:KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave Sub 2bob finally printing...wow! Sub zero had remained a possibility, albeit remote.. But luckily Pkosing has come to minority shareholders rescue
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2008 Posts: 199
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obiero wrote:KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave Management?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,563 Location: nairobi
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tandich wrote:obiero wrote:KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave Management? Board and management are currently without blame
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:nairobby wrote:maka wrote:nairobby wrote:[quote=kayhara]Has the Guangzhou kq flight ever left on time both ways? They should just move the flight to morning from nairobi and 3 am from CAN, otherwise I don't see what business they are doing, personally I will avoid it unless it's the only airline flying a certain route. I've noticed when that flight has delays its usually kitu 8 hours which I can't even understand because this is the only 787 route that gets this kind of delays. Wanted to use KQ to Bangkok but I had to avoid because of this. Yeah when that route has a delay it's usually long hours coz at times even after let's say the plane has been sorted if its a tech the issue of duty time comes into play... Its last year that guys were stuck for a few days after the plane had an issue... Still so weird. CDG flight departs around the same time and they've never had such a delay. Perhaps that is given NBO-CDG has a large % of transit passengers. There may be a penalty associated with missed flights for delayed passengers. KQ's codeshare partners would have to accommodate the transit passengers on different flights and perhaps provide accommodation and meals. This could be billed to the carrier that caused the delay. Huko EU you can't play around with this matters... There is some mzungu suing KQ/wrote to COFEK etc missed his connection... ION... 8 STATE bodies including Kenya Power, KQ and KPA risk losing assets if Sh147.7bn external debt is not paid, Parliamentary Budget Office says. https://t.co/8VQbFRnH2B[/quote] I was so mad, my flight from Mombasa was delayed for an hour only to get to Nairobi and find the Guangzhou flight has been cancelled and will be leaving the next day at 9, they put us up at Weston where we could not check in until 11.59 when the flight was to leave, the food was crap, on the flight back from Guangzhou they had a 5 hours delay, then when we got to Bangkok we were told the pilots had not rested so we had to dis embark and sleep in the waiting lounge from 3am to 9 am the next day, after that experience I have included in my requirements to my clients that any flight for me should not be KQ. To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,563 Location: nairobi
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kayhara wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:nairobby wrote:maka wrote:nairobby wrote:[quote=kayhara]Has the Guangzhou kq flight ever left on time both ways? They should just move the flight to morning from nairobi and 3 am from CAN, otherwise I don't see what business they are doing, personally I will avoid it unless it's the only airline flying a certain route. I've noticed when that flight has delays its usually kitu 8 hours which I can't even understand because this is the only 787 route that gets this kind of delays. Wanted to use KQ to Bangkok but I had to avoid because of this. Yeah when that route has a delay it's usually long hours coz at times even after let's say the plane has been sorted if its a tech the issue of duty time comes into play... Its last year that guys were stuck for a few days after the plane had an issue... Still so weird. CDG flight departs around the same time and they've never had such a delay. Perhaps that is given NBO-CDG has a large % of transit passengers. There may be a penalty associated with missed flights for delayed passengers. KQ's codeshare partners would have to accommodate the transit passengers on different flights and perhaps provide accommodation and meals. This could be billed to the carrier that caused the delay. Huko EU you can't play around with this matters... There is some mzungu suing KQ/wrote to COFEK etc missed his connection... ION... 8 STATE bodies including Kenya Power, KQ and KPA risk losing assets if Sh147.7bn external debt is not paid, Parliamentary Budget Office says. https://t.co/8VQbFRnH2B[/quote] I was so mad, my flight from Mombasa was delayed for an hour only to get to Nairobi and find the Guangzhou flight has been cancelled and will be leaving the next day at 9, they put us up at Weston where we could not check in until 11.59 when the flight was to leave, the food was crap, on the flight back from Guangzhou they had a 5 hours delay, then when we got to Bangkok we were told the pilots had not rested so we had to dis embark and sleep in the waiting lounge from 3am to 9 am the next day, after that experience I have included in my requirements to my clients that any flight for me should not be KQ. When leaving a party, you don't necessarily have to fart near the exits
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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kayhara wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:nairobby wrote:maka wrote:nairobby wrote:kayhara wrote:Has the Guangzhou kq flight ever left on time both ways? They should just move the flight to morning from nairobi and 3 am from CAN, otherwise I don't see what business they are doing, personally I will avoid it unless it's the only airline flying a certain route. I've noticed when that flight has delays its usually kitu 8 hours which I can't even understand because this is the only 787 route that gets this kind of delays. Wanted to use KQ to Bangkok but I had to avoid because of this. Yeah when that route has a delay it's usually long hours coz at times even after let's say the plane has been sorted if its a tech the issue of duty time comes into play... Its last year that guys were stuck for a few days after the plane had an issue... Still so weird. CDG flight departs around the same time and they've never had such a delay. Perhaps that is given NBO-CDG has a large % of transit passengers. There may be a penalty associated with missed flights for delayed passengers. KQ's codeshare partners would have to accommodate the transit passengers on different flights and perhaps provide accommodation and meals. This could be billed to the carrier that caused the delay. Huko EU you can't play around with this matters... There is some mzungu suing KQ/wrote to COFEK etc missed his connection... ION... 8 STATE bodies including Kenya Power, KQ and KPA risk losing assets if Sh147.7bn external debt is not paid, Parliamentary Budget Office says. https://t.co/8VQbFRnH2B I was so mad, my flight from Mombasa was delayed for an hour only to get to Nairobi and find the Guangzhou flight has been cancelled and will be leaving the next day at 9, they put us up at Weston where we could not check in until 11.59 when the flight was to leave, the food was crap, on the flight back from Guangzhou they had a 5 hours delay, then when we got to Bangkok we were told the pilots had not rested so we had to dis embark and sleep in the waiting lounge from 3am to 9 am the next day, after that experience I have included in my requirements to my clients that any flight for me should not be KQ. 
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,131 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:Scandinavian airline SAS has cancelled hundreds of flights globally leaving thousands of passengers stranded after pilots in Norway, Sweden and Denmark went on strike. SAS said 673 flights would be cancelled on Friday affecting 72,000 passengers. It said it was "deeply regretful" about the negative impact on customers. These airline employees are just greedy pigs, generally speaking #TukoPamoja They do not have or want skin in the game. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,131 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave 84% down from your (average) purchase price? Over what time period? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,131 Location: Nairobi
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kayhara wrote: I was so mad, my flight from Mombasa was delayed for an hour only to get to Nairobi and find the Guangzhou flight has been cancelled and will be leaving the next day at 9, they put us up at Weston where we could not check in until 11.59 when the flight was to leave, the food was crap, on the flight back from Guangzhou they had a 5 hours delay, then when we got to Bangkok we were told the pilots had not rested so we had to dis embark and sleep in the waiting lounge from 3am to 9 am the next day, after that experience I have included in my requirements to my clients that any flight for me should not be KQ. Bloody Hell If communicated to you, you could have stayed in Mombasa and saved yourself the hassle and KQ could have saved itself money for the hotel and transport to/fro Weston. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,563 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave 84% down from your (average) purchase price? Over what time period? Post restructuring November 2017.. Prior to that it was down 38-45% on average
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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obiero wrote:KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave Cut your losses and sell the damn 96100 KQ shares at 5 bob (if you are lucky), and pocket the 480k. Then talk nicely to @mugundaman to see if he can get you some kaploti huko dustbowl (though hiyo 480k is kidogo sana for a nice area). And you will be 100% up in the next 18 months. No need getting white hair and ulcers coz of KQ stock performance stress. Also never ever average down on a falling stock, you should only average UP on a performing stock. https://www.stockdiscipl...erage-down-falling-stock
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,563 Location: nairobi
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hardwood wrote:obiero wrote:KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave Cut your losses and sell the damn 96100 KQ shares at 5 bob (if you are lucky), and pocket the 480k. Then talk nicely to @mugundaman to see if he can get you some kaploti huko dustbowl (though hiyo 480k is kidogo sana for a nice area). And you will be 100% up in the next 18 months. No need getting white hair and ulcers coz of KQ stock performance stress. Also never ever average down on a falling stock, you should only average UP on a performing stock. https://www.stockdiscipl...rage-down-falling-stock
@hardwood thanks for the feedback but unless the Open Offer is done away with, high upside potential exists in the KQ share. Let's await full year results, Pkosing report both due next week; for final decisioning
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,131 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave 84% down from your (average) purchase price? Over what time period? Post restructuring November 2017.. Prior to that it was down 38-45% on average So you and I are not that far apart comparing ARM vs KQ. ARM is down 100% Your "value" from the time you first bought the shares is down 90%+? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,563 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave 84% down from your (average) purchase price? Over what time period? Post restructuring November 2017.. Prior to that it was down 38-45% on average So you and I are not that far apart comparing ARM vs KQ. ARM is down 100% Your "value" from the time you first bought the shares is down 90%+? 84% is not 90% .. Read the earlier post. And no, you can’t compare ARM to KQ. One is dead
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,131 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave 84% down from your (average) purchase price? Over what time period? Post restructuring November 2017.. Prior to that it was down 38-45% on average So you and I are not that far apart comparing ARM vs KQ. ARM is down 100% Your "value" from the time you first bought the shares is down 90%+? 84% is not 90% .. Read the earlier post. And no, you can’t compare ARM to KQ. One is dead You said "Post restructuring November 2017.. Prior to that it was down 38-45% on average" So was the 84% reduction in value from Nov 2017 to April 2019? Or was the reduction of 84% from the first shares you bought? In 2012, KQ had a Rights Issue at 14/-. Then there was a 4:1 consolidation so 100 shares x 14 = 1,400 in 2012 is now 25 shares x 5/- = 125/- in April 2019 125/1400 = 9% of the original value Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2009 Posts: 256
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Scandinavian airline SAS has cancelled hundreds of flights globally leaving thousands of passengers stranded after pilots in Norway, Sweden and Denmark went on strike. SAS said 673 flights would be cancelled on Friday affecting 72,000 passengers. It said it was "deeply regretful" about the negative impact on customers. These airline employees are just greedy pigs, generally speaking #TukoPamoja They do not have or want skin in the game. Watching events from outside is like watching a swan on a lake. While its true employees often do not have skin in the game, we have no idea what they are dealing with underneath. I have met managers from hell in my day. I have seen events unfold in one way, only to be reported completely differently in the media. He who controls mass media gets to control your perception of reality. That makes it difficult to judge these situations without inside information.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,702 Location: NAIROBI
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Tues 30 April 2019 Kenya Airways results & Investor briefing Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,563 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:KQ staff, KAWU, KALPA, KAA have all contributed in taking KQ shares to the cleaners.. 84% down and it's almost time to make the decision of a lifetime, to average down or to let go.. I was born brave 84% down from your (average) purchase price? Over what time period? Post restructuring November 2017.. Prior to that it was down 38-45% on average So you and I are not that far apart comparing ARM vs KQ. ARM is down 100% Your "value" from the time you first bought the shares is down 90%+? 84% is not 90% .. Read the earlier post. And no, you can’t compare ARM to KQ. One is dead You said "Post restructuring November 2017.. Prior to that it was down 38-45% on average" So was the 84% reduction in value from Nov 2017 to April 2019? Or was the reduction of 84% from the first shares you bought? In 2012, KQ had a Rights Issue at 14/-. Then there was a 4:1 consolidation so 100 shares x 14 = 1,400 in 2012 is now 25 shares x 5/- = 125/- in April 2019 125/1400 = 9% of the original value Remember that I declared the Rights Issue DOA, right here.. I bought post
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