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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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rwitre wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Half Year 2018/19 being presented today morning. They release the results on newspaper late last week and then have a presentation today? Very interesting Other companies should follow suit. Give the stakeholders time to scrutinize so that they can ask informed questions ...or they are preparing for a price pump today when the +10% rule won't be in force. Share price trading at a reflection of the performance,so there will be no effect Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Profitability driven by ksh.1.244bn realised gains from disposal of Gen Africa. GenAfrica achieving an IRR of 29%. James Mworia; We need to renew the capital structure of the business. We want the shareholders to have great returns. We are targeting to pay debt at individual businesses and not at the group level. On the outlook, to optimize the gross return, we are planning on robust exit pipeline of mature assets across the portfolio. To reduce debt at Centum level, we will utilize part of exit proceeds to completely pay down long term debt as it matures Debt distress at play. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Half Year 2018/19 being presented today morning. They release the results on newspaper late last week and then have a presentation today? Very interesting Other companies should follow suit. Give the stakeholders time to scrutinize so that they can ask informed questions I like that! It's good to let folks digest the info. Conf Call at 3.30pm. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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Been looking to diversify and include a blue chip with high potential for capital gains...(because dividends don't multiply wealth fast enough, and high-beta stocks will ruin quality of sleep).
Settled on Centum with its discount on NAV, plus the headstrong management that has a firm handle on things.
My one concern is the circa Sh50 billion in a fresh private equity (PE) being sought, how prudently it will be used, and its impact on the balance sheet. But seeing the track record of the board in selecting firms to sink money into (plus the insistence on focusing on cash generating companies, and not greenfield ventures or turn-around types), am optimistic.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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rwitre wrote:Been looking to diversify and include a blue chip with high potential for capital gains...(because dividends don't multiply wealth fast enough, and high-beta stocks will ruin quality of sleep).
Settled on Centum with its discount on NAV, plus the headstrong management that has a firm handle on things.
My one concern is the circa Sh50 billion in a fresh private equity (PE) being sought, how prudently it will be used, and its impact on the balance sheet. But seeing the track record of the board in selecting firms to sink money into (plus the insistence on focusing on cash generating companies, and not greenfield ventures or turn-around types), am optimistic. im also in the process of changing my attitude towards centum.I went into their historical background and i liked the initial purpose of forming it. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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Buy value, the price will sort itself.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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rwitre wrote:Buy value, the price will sort itself. Signifies an oncoming mini bull run Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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https://www.businessdail...4946-jeqi01z/index.html
Sidian Bank has signed a Sh1.2 billion capital injection with Investment Fund for Developing Countries (IFU), a Danish private equity, in a deal that will see it progressively cede a 20 percent stake to the lender. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Sidian bank has posted a KSh 392 million loss in 2018, an improvement from the KSh422 million loss posted in 2017. The loss resulted from higher operating expenses which shot up by 13 per cent to reach KSh3.7 billion. Net operating income grew by 24 per cent to land at KSh2.1 billion from KSh1.7 billion booked the previous year. The bank is a subsidiary of Centum Holdings and is primarily focused on lending to small and medium-sized enterprises. Income from loans and advances to customers fell by 3 per cent attributed to the cap on lending rates. The lender’s investment in government paper increased by at least 75 percent. Customer deposits, on the other hand, grew by 33% from KSh 12.8 billion to KSh17 billion. Similarly, its loans and advances jumped up 15 per cent to KSh 13 billion. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Centum has put Sidian on the market with intention of selling it to a willing buyer;"Last month, Sidian Bank chief executive Chege Thumbi said the lower-tier lender was open for merger talks, joining the list of lenders mulling similar deals." Mr Thumbi said the bank has been having informal discussions with other lenders even though he declined to reveal the names. “As and when discussions progress to a level where we are confident to announce anything, we will come back to you. A lot of conversations do happen once in a while and until it matures, we can’t give details,” he said. “We are very open for merger with other banks and also opportunities of acquisition of other banks --- I am sure everyone in the market is looking at how to get bigger, better more efficient and create stronger banks.” https://www.businessdail...084124-pb6axg/index.htmlWealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Centum has put Sidian on the market with intention of selling it to a willing buyer;"Last month, Sidian Bank chief executive Chege Thumbi said the lower-tier lender was open for merger talks, joining the list of lenders mulling similar deals." Mr Thumbi said the bank has been having informal discussions with other lenders even though he declined to reveal the names. “As and when discussions progress to a level where we are confident to announce anything, we will come back to you. A lot of conversations do happen once in a while and until it matures, we can’t give details,” he said. “We are very open for merger with other banks and also opportunities of acquisition of other banks --- I am sure everyone in the market is looking at how to get bigger, better more efficient and create stronger banks.” https://www.businessdail...84124-pb6axg/index.html Given the current mood and unlikeliness of the Interest Cap being lifted, it makes sense to do so. Acknowledge the hurt. Centum needs to reduce the valuation is has for Sidian from 1.4x BV to 1.0x (at most). Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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I remain bullish on Centum based on the discount to BV even after I deduct: Sidian's over-valuation (from 1.4x BV to 1.0x BV) Akira Amu TRDL valuation reduction given the state of real estate TRLC valuation reduction given the state of malls and offices Other not-so-great businesses Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/18/2019 Posts: 185 Location: kenya
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They'll have to deal with the debt issue which is my biggest worry and may that mean selling a valuable business to raise cash?
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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nairobby wrote:They'll have to deal with the debt issue which is my biggest worry and may that mean selling a valuable business to raise cash? If Centum gets a good price for a "valuable" business, it is not a bad idea to sell the business and reduce debt. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/18/2019 Posts: 185 Location: kenya
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VituVingiSana wrote:nairobby wrote:They'll have to deal with the debt issue which is my biggest worry and may that mean selling a valuable business to raise cash? If Centum gets a good price for a "valuable" business, it is not a bad idea to sell the business and reduce debt. What about future cash flows then? Because if they sell a business with good cash flow like their beverage business for example that won't be good long term given how their other units like Real Estate, Sidian are struggling.I like Centum but eh I'm somehow skeptical to buy some more..
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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nairobby wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:nairobby wrote:They'll have to deal with the debt issue which is my biggest worry and may that mean selling a valuable business to raise cash? If Centum gets a good price for a "valuable" business, it is not a bad idea to sell the business and reduce debt. What about future cash flows then? Because if they sell a business with good cash flow like their beverage business for example that won't be good long term given how their other units like Real Estate, Sidian are struggling.I like Centum but eh I'm somehow skeptical to buy some more.. Reduce debt, reduce the need to generate cash to make loan payments. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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Back to buy zone.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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New vehicle sales drop 14.5pc in first quarter https://www.businessdail...6596-vlxd0xz/index.html
Most, including Toyota Kenya and Simba Corporation, recorded significant sales decline. Isuzu East Africa was the only major dealer to register higher sales. Unit sales at Isuzu rose to 1,019 from 891 while those of Toyota fell to 672 from 812. Simba Corp’s sales also dropped to 487 from 514.Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:New vehicle sales drop 14.5pc in first quarter https://www.businessdail...6596-vlxd0xz/index.html
Most, including Toyota Kenya and Simba Corporation, recorded significant sales decline. Isuzu East Africa was the only major dealer to register higher sales. Unit sales at Isuzu rose to 1,019 from 891 while those of Toyota fell to 672 from 812. Simba Corp’s sales also dropped to 487 from 514. Jubilee Manifesto Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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