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Ericsson wrote:KQ Resorts To Code Sharing Before Finally Suspending US Direct Flightshttps://www.kahawatungu....&utm_medium=twitter
Despite Kenya Airways (KQ) announcing resumption of daily direct flights to US in June, it is evident that the national carrier cannot sustain the flights. In fact, the airliner will not actually resume the flights, but will use American airliner, Delta Airlines, to advance the agenda, which means that a big chunk of profits will go the firm. The two airlines announced that they had signed a code sharing deal, that would see the plan materialise. A code sharing deal is a commercial arrangement between two airlines, whereby one sells seats on a flight operated by the other. In this sense, Kenya Airways, owing to its limited financial ability, will be ‘selling’ its passengers to the American carrier. “As part of our commitment to the New York route, we are proud to be a part of this partnership that will open up opportunities for our customers to access more destinations in North America through the John F. Kennedy Airport,” KQ CEO Sebastian Mikosz said. Barely two weeks after launching the route, KQ reduced the number of its direct flights to new York, US, over low demand. Since then, the carrier has never resumed the flights as per the schedule, which was hit by several hiccups. Alai just doesn't understand the airline industry...and I think you do not either. KQ will fly Kenyans from JKIA to JFK then those proceeding to other cities will catch the other american airlines (delta, AA) to their destinations eg Miami, Houston etc, In the same code sharing sprit AA and Delta will use KQ to fly people from JFK to JKIA and other African destinations that they may not be flying to (actually, which American Airline flys to Africa?) Most of these American airlines code share with BA or KLM who fly to Africa. Most international flights to and from the west are never full anyway plus KQ will need to gain trust among travelers before they are to see full flights. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:KQ Resorts To Code Sharing Before Finally Suspending US Direct Flightshttps://www.kahawatungu....&utm_medium=twitter
Despite Kenya Airways (KQ) announcing resumption of daily direct flights to US in June, it is evident that the national carrier cannot sustain the flights. In fact, the airliner will not actually resume the flights, but will use American airliner, Delta Airlines, to advance the agenda, which means that a big chunk of profits will go the firm. The two airlines announced that they had signed a code sharing deal, that would see the plan materialise. A code sharing deal is a commercial arrangement between two airlines, whereby one sells seats on a flight operated by the other. In this sense, Kenya Airways, owing to its limited financial ability, will be ‘selling’ its passengers to the American carrier. “As part of our commitment to the New York route, we are proud to be a part of this partnership that will open up opportunities for our customers to access more destinations in North America through the John F. Kennedy Airport,” KQ CEO Sebastian Mikosz said. Barely two weeks after launching the route, KQ reduced the number of its direct flights to new York, US, over low demand. Since then, the carrier has never resumed the flights as per the schedule, which was hit by several hiccups. Alai just doesn't understand the airline industry...and I think you do not either. KQ will fly Kenyans from JKIA to JFK then those proceeding to other cities will catch the other american airlines (delta, AA) to their destinations eg Miami, Houston etc, In the same code sharing sprit AA and Delta will use KQ to fly people from JFK to JKIA and other African destinations that they may not be flying to (actually, which American Airline flys to Africa?) Most of these American airlines code share with BA or KLM who fly to Africa. Most international flights to and from the west are never full anyway plus KQ will need to gain trust among travelers before they are to see full flights. How does American Airlines come into the picture? Wasn't the code-share just with Delta (a founder member of SkyTeam)? Is there a KQ-AA codeshare? I would have thought KQ would have worked on the code-share before launching the NBO-JFK flights given the market in North America is much wider than NYC especially for Diasporans. There is a huge Kenyan diaspora in TX. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,564 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:KQ Resorts To Code Sharing Before Finally Suspending US Direct Flightshttps://www.kahawatungu....&utm_medium=twitter
Despite Kenya Airways (KQ) announcing resumption of daily direct flights to US in June, it is evident that the national carrier cannot sustain the flights. In fact, the airliner will not actually resume the flights, but will use American airliner, Delta Airlines, to advance the agenda, which means that a big chunk of profits will go the firm. The two airlines announced that they had signed a code sharing deal, that would see the plan materialise. A code sharing deal is a commercial arrangement between two airlines, whereby one sells seats on a flight operated by the other. In this sense, Kenya Airways, owing to its limited financial ability, will be ‘selling’ its passengers to the American carrier. “As part of our commitment to the New York route, we are proud to be a part of this partnership that will open up opportunities for our customers to access more destinations in North America through the John F. Kennedy Airport,” KQ CEO Sebastian Mikosz said. Barely two weeks after launching the route, KQ reduced the number of its direct flights to new York, US, over low demand. Since then, the carrier has never resumed the flights as per the schedule, which was hit by several hiccups. We live to fight another battle.. No need to prop up a new route with endless vigor like it's the school drama festival finals
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:KQ Resorts To Code Sharing Before Finally Suspending US Direct Flightshttps://www.kahawatungu....&utm_medium=twitter
Despite Kenya Airways (KQ) announcing resumption of daily direct flights to US in June, it is evident that the national carrier cannot sustain the flights. In fact, the airliner will not actually resume the flights, but will use American airliner, Delta Airlines, to advance the agenda, which means that a big chunk of profits will go the firm. The two airlines announced that they had signed a code sharing deal, that would see the plan materialise. A code sharing deal is a commercial arrangement between two airlines, whereby one sells seats on a flight operated by the other. In this sense, Kenya Airways, owing to its limited financial ability, will be ‘selling’ its passengers to the American carrier. “As part of our commitment to the New York route, we are proud to be a part of this partnership that will open up opportunities for our customers to access more destinations in North America through the John F. Kennedy Airport,” KQ CEO Sebastian Mikosz said. Barely two weeks after launching the route, KQ reduced the number of its direct flights to new York, US, over low demand. Since then, the carrier has never resumed the flights as per the schedule, which was hit by several hiccups. Alai just doesn't understand the airline industry...and I think you do not either. KQ will fly Kenyans from JKIA to JFK then those proceeding to other cities will catch the other american airlines (delta, AA) to their destinations eg Miami, Houston etc, In the same code sharing sprit AA and Delta will use KQ to fly people from JFK to JKIA and other African destinations that they may not be flying to (actually, which American Airline flys to Africa?) Most of these American airlines code share with BA or KLM who fly to Africa. Most international flights to and from the west are never full anyway plus KQ will need to gain trust among travelers before they are to see full flights. How does American Airlines come into the picture? Wasn't the code-share just with Delta (a founder member of SkyTeam)? Is there a KQ-AA codeshare? I would have thought KQ would have worked on the code-share before launching the NBO-JFK flights given the market in North America is much wider than NYC especially for Diasporans. There is a huge Kenyan diaspora in TX. Delta doesn't fly everywhere, these are the Delta hubs Atlanta, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, New York (JFK and LaGuardia), Salt Lake City, Seattle. To connect elsewhere, they are booking AA for you. Its only right after a 15hr flight, you dont want another connection after that. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,131 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:KQ Resorts To Code Sharing Before Finally Suspending US Direct Flightshttps://www.kahawatungu....&utm_medium=twitter
Despite Kenya Airways (KQ) announcing resumption of daily direct flights to US in June, it is evident that the national carrier cannot sustain the flights. In fact, the airliner will not actually resume the flights, but will use American airliner, Delta Airlines, to advance the agenda, which means that a big chunk of profits will go the firm. The two airlines announced that they had signed a code sharing deal, that would see the plan materialise. A code sharing deal is a commercial arrangement between two airlines, whereby one sells seats on a flight operated by the other. In this sense, Kenya Airways, owing to its limited financial ability, will be ‘selling’ its passengers to the American carrier. “As part of our commitment to the New York route, we are proud to be a part of this partnership that will open up opportunities for our customers to access more destinations in North America through the John F. Kennedy Airport,” KQ CEO Sebastian Mikosz said. Barely two weeks after launching the route, KQ reduced the number of its direct flights to new York, US, over low demand. Since then, the carrier has never resumed the flights as per the schedule, which was hit by several hiccups. Alai just doesn't understand the airline industry...and I think you do not either. KQ will fly Kenyans from JKIA to JFK then those proceeding to other cities will catch the other american airlines (delta, AA) to their destinations eg Miami, Houston etc, In the same code sharing sprit AA and Delta will use KQ to fly people from JFK to JKIA and other African destinations that they may not be flying to (actually, which American Airline flys to Africa?) Most of these American airlines code share with BA or KLM who fly to Africa. Most international flights to and from the west are never full anyway plus KQ will need to gain trust among travelers before they are to see full flights. How does American Airlines come into the picture? Wasn't the code-share just with Delta (a founder member of SkyTeam)? Is there a KQ-AA codeshare? I would have thought KQ would have worked on the code-share before launching the NBO-JFK flights given the market in North America is much wider than NYC especially for Diasporans. There is a huge Kenyan diaspora in TX. Delta doesn't fly everywhere, these are the Delta hubs Atlanta, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, New York (JFK and LaGuardia), Salt Lake City, Seattle. To connect elsewhere, they are booking AA for you. Its only right after a 15hr flight, you dont want another connection after that. I get that but is there an announcement of the KQ-AA codeshare? It's good for KQ to have more codeshares with more partners to expand the reach for its passengers. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:KQ Resorts To Code Sharing Before Finally Suspending US Direct Flightshttps://www.kahawatungu....&utm_medium=twitter
Despite Kenya Airways (KQ) announcing resumption of daily direct flights to US in June, it is evident that the national carrier cannot sustain the flights. In fact, the airliner will not actually resume the flights, but will use American airliner, Delta Airlines, to advance the agenda, which means that a big chunk of profits will go the firm. The two airlines announced that they had signed a code sharing deal, that would see the plan materialise. A code sharing deal is a commercial arrangement between two airlines, whereby one sells seats on a flight operated by the other. In this sense, Kenya Airways, owing to its limited financial ability, will be ‘selling’ its passengers to the American carrier. “As part of our commitment to the New York route, we are proud to be a part of this partnership that will open up opportunities for our customers to access more destinations in North America through the John F. Kennedy Airport,” KQ CEO Sebastian Mikosz said. Barely two weeks after launching the route, KQ reduced the number of its direct flights to new York, US, over low demand. Since then, the carrier has never resumed the flights as per the schedule, which was hit by several hiccups. Alai just doesn't understand the airline industry...and I think you do not either. KQ will fly Kenyans from JKIA to JFK then those proceeding to other cities will catch the other american airlines (delta, AA) to their destinations eg Miami, Houston etc, In the same code sharing sprit AA and Delta will use KQ to fly people from JFK to JKIA and other African destinations that they may not be flying to (actually, which American Airline flys to Africa?) Most of these American airlines code share with BA or KLM who fly to Africa. Most international flights to and from the west are never full anyway plus KQ will need to gain trust among travelers before they are to see full flights. How does American Airlines come into the picture? Wasn't the code-share just with Delta (a founder member of SkyTeam)? Is there a KQ-AA codeshare? I would have thought KQ would have worked on the code-share before launching the NBO-JFK flights given the market in North America is much wider than NYC especially for Diasporans. There is a huge Kenyan diaspora in TX. Delta doesn't fly everywhere, these are the Delta hubs Atlanta, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, New York (JFK and LaGuardia), Salt Lake City, Seattle. To connect elsewhere, they are booking AA for you. Its only right after a 15hr flight, you dont want another connection after that. I get that but is there an announcement of the KQ-AA codeshare? It's good for KQ to have more codeshares with more partners to expand the reach for its passengers. No announcement yet, but that is what they are doing "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,131 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:KQ Resorts To Code Sharing Before Finally Suspending US Direct Flightshttps://www.kahawatungu....&utm_medium=twitter
Despite Kenya Airways (KQ) announcing resumption of daily direct flights to US in June, it is evident that the national carrier cannot sustain the flights. In fact, the airliner will not actually resume the flights, but will use American airliner, Delta Airlines, to advance the agenda, which means that a big chunk of profits will go the firm. The two airlines announced that they had signed a code sharing deal, that would see the plan materialise. A code sharing deal is a commercial arrangement between two airlines, whereby one sells seats on a flight operated by the other. In this sense, Kenya Airways, owing to its limited financial ability, will be ‘selling’ its passengers to the American carrier. “As part of our commitment to the New York route, we are proud to be a part of this partnership that will open up opportunities for our customers to access more destinations in North America through the John F. Kennedy Airport,” KQ CEO Sebastian Mikosz said. Barely two weeks after launching the route, KQ reduced the number of its direct flights to new York, US, over low demand. Since then, the carrier has never resumed the flights as per the schedule, which was hit by several hiccups. Alai just doesn't understand the airline industry...and I think you do not either. KQ will fly Kenyans from JKIA to JFK then those proceeding to other cities will catch the other american airlines (delta, AA) to their destinations eg Miami, Houston etc, In the same code sharing sprit AA and Delta will use KQ to fly people from JFK to JKIA and other African destinations that they may not be flying to (actually, which American Airline flys to Africa?) Most of these American airlines code share with BA or KLM who fly to Africa. Most international flights to and from the west are never full anyway plus KQ will need to gain trust among travelers before they are to see full flights. How does American Airlines come into the picture? Wasn't the code-share just with Delta (a founder member of SkyTeam)? Is there a KQ-AA codeshare? I would have thought KQ would have worked on the code-share before launching the NBO-JFK flights given the market in North America is much wider than NYC especially for Diasporans. There is a huge Kenyan diaspora in TX. Delta doesn't fly everywhere, these are the Delta hubs Atlanta, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, New York (JFK and LaGuardia), Salt Lake City, Seattle. To connect elsewhere, they are booking AA for you. Its only right after a 15hr flight, you dont want another connection after that. I get that but is there an announcement of the KQ-AA codeshare? It's good for KQ to have more codeshares with more partners to expand the reach for its passengers. No announcement yet, but that is what they are doing How does code-share revenue splitting work? As an example: AA-BA are in the same alliance so someone flying from NBO to a city in the USA that is served by AA directly from LHR i.e. NBO-LHR-USCity vs KQ-AA using NBO-JFK-USCity Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:Ericsson wrote:KQ Resorts To Code Sharing Before Finally Suspending US Direct Flightshttps://www.kahawatungu....&utm_medium=twitter
Despite Kenya Airways (KQ) announcing resumption of daily direct flights to US in June, it is evident that the national carrier cannot sustain the flights. In fact, the airliner will not actually resume the flights, but will use American airliner, Delta Airlines, to advance the agenda, which means that a big chunk of profits will go the firm. The two airlines announced that they had signed a code sharing deal, that would see the plan materialise. A code sharing deal is a commercial arrangement between two airlines, whereby one sells seats on a flight operated by the other. In this sense, Kenya Airways, owing to its limited financial ability, will be ‘selling’ its passengers to the American carrier. “As part of our commitment to the New York route, we are proud to be a part of this partnership that will open up opportunities for our customers to access more destinations in North America through the John F. Kennedy Airport,” KQ CEO Sebastian Mikosz said. Barely two weeks after launching the route, KQ reduced the number of its direct flights to new York, US, over low demand. Since then, the carrier has never resumed the flights as per the schedule, which was hit by several hiccups. Alai just doesn't understand the airline industry...and I think you do not either. KQ will fly Kenyans from JKIA to JFK then those proceeding to other cities will catch the other american airlines (delta, AA) to their destinations eg Miami, Houston etc, In the same code sharing sprit AA and Delta will use KQ to fly people from JFK to JKIA and other African destinations that they may not be flying to (actually, which American Airline flys to Africa?) Most of these American airlines code share with BA or KLM who fly to Africa. Most international flights to and from the west are never full anyway plus KQ will need to gain trust among travelers before they are to see full flights. How does American Airlines come into the picture? Wasn't the code-share just with Delta (a founder member of SkyTeam)? Is there a KQ-AA codeshare? I would have thought KQ would have worked on the code-share before launching the NBO-JFK flights given the market in North America is much wider than NYC especially for Diasporans. There is a huge Kenyan diaspora in TX. Delta doesn't fly everywhere, these are the Delta hubs Atlanta, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, New York (JFK and LaGuardia), Salt Lake City, Seattle. To connect elsewhere, they are booking AA for you. Its only right after a 15hr flight, you dont want another connection after that. I get that but is there an announcement of the KQ-AA codeshare? It's good for KQ to have more codeshares with more partners to expand the reach for its passengers. No announcement yet, but that is what they are doing How does code-share revenue splitting work? As an example: AA-BA are in the same alliance so someone flying from NBO to a city in the USA that is served by AA directly from LHR i.e. NBO-LHR-USCity vs KQ-AA using NBO-JFK-USCity Its happening sir!, Someone I know flew that way.  I don't know how they are sharing the mulla though but as you can see, where there's an available Delta flight the passenger gets to spend less time in transit "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Whistling... Btw how do I upload a video....? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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maka wrote:Whistling... Btw how do I upload a video....? After 9 years in wazua you are still asking elementary questions? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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murchr wrote:maka wrote:Whistling... Btw how do I upload a video....? After 9 years in wazua you are still asking elementary questions?  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:murchr wrote:maka wrote:Whistling... Btw how do I upload a video....? After 9 years in wazua you are still asking elementary questions? Acha nikae na video yangu...let me whatsapp @Obiero maybe he will upload it for you guys.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,564 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:Impunity wrote:murchr wrote:maka wrote:Whistling... Btw how do I upload a video....? After 9 years in wazua you are still asking elementary questions? Acha nikae na video yangu...let me whatsapp @Obiero maybe he will upload it for you guys.... Very classified. Let me upload without sound. A lip reader may assist https://i.imgur.com/a6QKMmt.mp4
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,131 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:maka wrote:Whistling... Btw how do I upload a video....? After 9 years in wazua you are still asking elementary questions? Just help if you know. It's very user unfriendly to upload a vid. @maka - Try this: If you have the link to the vid (vs the actual vid) then use the "create link" button above. There's an "insert image" button that may help in uploading the vid from your computer. I have not uploaded a video so I am not sure. copy and paste the vid in between the " img img" Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:Impunity wrote:murchr wrote:maka wrote:Whistling... Btw how do I upload a video....? After 9 years in wazua you are still asking elementary questions? Acha nikae na video yangu...let me whatsapp @Obiero maybe he will upload it for you guys.... Very classified. Let me upload without sound. A lip reader may assist https://i.imgur.com/a6QKMmt.mp4
No sound...no help...no need. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,564 Location: nairobi
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Impunity wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:Impunity wrote:murchr wrote:maka wrote:Whistling... Btw how do I upload a video....? After 9 years in wazua you are still asking elementary questions? Acha nikae na video yangu...let me whatsapp @Obiero maybe he will upload it for you guys.... Very classified. Let me upload without sound. A lip reader may assist https://i.imgur.com/a6QKMmt.mp4
No sound...no help...no need. I sense your frustration. In the spirit of wazua, here you are http://www.winda.co.ke/9...7A-98CC-121C98A63467.MOV
COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,131 Location: Nairobi
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The "Old KQ" needs to put into administration. Fire all the staff. Let the creditors take the hit. Start a "New KQ" and keep only those assets and staff that New KQ needs and wants. http://www.winda.co.ke/9...7A-98CC-121C98A63467.MOVGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,564 Location: nairobi
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It will never happen.. In exactly three weeks KQ obtains JKIA
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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obiero wrote:It will never happen.. In exactly three weeks KQ obtains JKIA The sleekest of chance will happen if ohana is brought on board ASAP. Otherwise vvvs will only Liv to appreciate a miracle happens once in ones lifetime. Counting. The fastest turnaround out of a hole, is by first stopping the digging. @ obiero am leaving the bar but I pittyied u u all along prying the Jesus of Jairus.. I regeret the lack of a bold contenance in your desposition. Run all, well early for that which will fail well in the end. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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“A KQ Captain earns on average 11 times more than average employee in other high salary sectors and 29 more than the private sector average. Unfortunately, the pilots’ remuneration is not in line with their productivity,” reads a document by the KQ management. https://www.standardmedi...-and-bad-deal-with-jkia
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