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Rank: Member Joined: 11/10/2010 Posts: 281 Location: Nairobi
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You are correct, both have costs and associated risks. But now getting back to my original statement, "buying a piece of land and building your own house beats the option of going to the market to buy a ready made house. Specifically on cost and the choice to design/customize the house to your requirements."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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MugundaMan wrote:Mara oooo service charge; who paid and did not pay. Then there is always those three or four that go "on strike" and refuse to pay service charge. What will you do to make them pay - nada. Well, you can break their legs.... https://www.standardmedi...776901_1250943521670271
Quote:Ms Nyawira suffered a broken leg due to alleged harassment by some of her neighbours, who she claims have been harassing her after she refused to part with Sh2,500 every month for security. “I was recently attacked by some of my neighbours just because I told them that I could not contribute Sh2,500 every month for security. The neighbourhood management has now instructed the watchmen not to open the main gate for me,” said Nyawira. The mother of three said she was attacked by six men and women from her neighbourhood late last year after she refused to pay. Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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madhaquer wrote:You are correct, both have costs and associated risks. But now getting back to my original statement, "buying a piece of land and building your own house beats the option of going to the market to buy a ready made house. Specifically on cost and the choice to design/customize the house to your requirements." This is complex kizungu mingi for them. They will never understand it in a million years papa. You would be surprised to learn many who are opposing you are living in bedsitters posting kicheko emoji as response. Hiyo tu. These ferras will just waste your precious time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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hardwood wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Mara oooo service charge; who paid and did not pay. Then there is always those three or four that go "on strike" and refuse to pay service charge. What will you do to make them pay - nada. Well, you can break their legs.... https://www.standardmedi...776901_1250943521670271
Quote:Ms Nyawira suffered a broken leg due to alleged harassment by some of her neighbours, who she claims have been harassing her after she refused to part with Sh2,500 every month for security. “I was recently attacked by some of my neighbours just because I told them that I could not contribute Sh2,500 every month for security. The neighbourhood management has now instructed the watchmen not to open the main gate for me,” said Nyawira. The mother of three said she was attacked by six men and women from her neighbourhood late last year after she refused to pay. Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family.  Quote:Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family. I do not agree with the violence meted on her but I 100% agree with the soft punishment of forcing her to open the gate herself since amekataa security fee. But imagine if these are the sorts of shidas you get in a gated community in membley, imagine the types of shidas you will get in apartment complexes in Lavi or Kilimani with 100+ units! You may find 30% have refused to pay and you have to resort to jambazi tactics to force them. Not worth the headache at all. Better to own your own boundaries and land and beautiful maisonette and live in total peace under the sun that gnash teeth with terrible neighbours who you are stuck with on the same mother title for life!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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MugundaMan wrote:madhaquer wrote:You are correct, both have costs and associated risks. But now getting back to my original statement, "buying a piece of land and building your own house beats the option of going to the market to buy a ready made house. Specifically on cost and the choice to design/customize the house to your requirements." This is complex kizungu mingi for them. They will never understand it in a million years papa. You would be surprised to learn many who are opposing you are living in bedsitters posting kicheko emoji as response. Hiyo tu. These ferras will just waste your precious time. @Mugundaman you "buy, develop and sell" to quote you from another post. You are here yapping how buying and building yourself is better than buying ready made house. I expect you to give us a balanced response on the pros of buying from yoi as a developer. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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MugundaMan wrote:hardwood wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Mara oooo service charge; who paid and did not pay. Then there is always those three or four that go "on strike" and refuse to pay service charge. What will you do to make them pay - nada. Well, you can break their legs.... https://www.standardmedi...776901_1250943521670271
Quote:Ms Nyawira suffered a broken leg due to alleged harassment by some of her neighbours, who she claims have been harassing her after she refused to part with Sh2,500 every month for security. “I was recently attacked by some of my neighbours just because I told them that I could not contribute Sh2,500 every month for security. The neighbourhood management has now instructed the watchmen not to open the main gate for me,” said Nyawira. The mother of three said she was attacked by six men and women from her neighbourhood late last year after she refused to pay. Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family. Quote:Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family. I do not agree with the violence meted on her but I 100% agree with the soft punishment of forcing her to open the gate herself since amekataa security fee. But imagine if these are the sorts of shidas you get in a gated community in membley, imagine the types of shidas you will get in apartment complexes in Lavi or Kilimani with 100+ units! You may find 30% have refused to pay and you have to resort to jambazi tactics to force them. Not worth the headache at all. Better to own your own boundaries and land and beautiful maisonette and live in total peace under the sun that gnash teeth with terrible neighbours who you are stuck with on the same mother title for life! so she is not paying for the guards and seem to want them to open for her the gate? this is a difficult neighbour. sounds very unreasonable and unpleasant
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/1/2019 Posts: 170 Location: Nairobi
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MugundaMan wrote:hardwood wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Mara oooo service charge; who paid and did not pay. Then there is always those three or four that go "on strike" and refuse to pay service charge. What will you do to make them pay - nada. Well, you can break their legs.... https://www.standardmedi...776901_1250943521670271
Quote:Ms Nyawira suffered a broken leg due to alleged harassment by some of her neighbours, who she claims have been harassing her after she refused to part with Sh2,500 every month for security. “I was recently attacked by some of my neighbours just because I told them that I could not contribute Sh2,500 every month for security. The neighbourhood management has now instructed the watchmen not to open the main gate for me,” said Nyawira. The mother of three said she was attacked by six men and women from her neighbourhood late last year after she refused to pay. Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family. Quote:Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family. I do not agree with the violence meted on her but I 100% agree with the soft punishment of forcing her to open the gate herself since amekataa security fee. But imagine if these are the sorts of shidas you get in a gated community in membley, imagine the types of shidas you will get in apartment complexes in Lavi or Kilimani with 100+ units! You may find 30% have refused to pay and you have to resort to jambazi tactics to force them. Not worth the headache at all. Better to own your own boundaries and land and beautiful maisonette and live in total peace under the sun that gnash teeth with terrible neighbours who you are stuck with on the same mother title for life! True, some neighbours in any gated community whether it is in DC or in the inner city will refuse to pay the service charge. I know a friend who joined hands with neighbours in Athiriver to gate their compounds together and agreed to contribute 1k per month for the shared guard, well he told me some don't pay and the problem is they don't have a management team so the stress trickles down to the ones paying. In places like Kilimani, and Lavington, the headache is always outsourced to a management team contracted by the owners, as long as you pay your share, you will never need to know what commotion is going on if any. Can you imagine how stressed that lady's neighbours had to be to the extent of hurting her??? Life is too short for that kind of drama When Nairobi finally reaches DC, you will also be forced to start paying for service charges as well so that your shared amenities in the neighbourhood can be properly maintained, otherwise the place will deteriorate into a slum and an easy target for petty thieves. You can never escape service charges in fact, you should be very happy to pay it since it offers some guarantees which improve the quality of your life.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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NewMoney wrote:MugundaMan wrote:hardwood wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Mara oooo service charge; who paid and did not pay. Then there is always those three or four that go "on strike" and refuse to pay service charge. What will you do to make them pay - nada. Well, you can break their legs.... https://www.standardmedi...776901_1250943521670271
Quote:Ms Nyawira suffered a broken leg due to alleged harassment by some of her neighbours, who she claims have been harassing her after she refused to part with Sh2,500 every month for security. “I was recently attacked by some of my neighbours just because I told them that I could not contribute Sh2,500 every month for security. The neighbourhood management has now instructed the watchmen not to open the main gate for me,” said Nyawira. The mother of three said she was attacked by six men and women from her neighbourhood late last year after she refused to pay. Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family. Quote:Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family. I do not agree with the violence meted on her but I 100% agree with the soft punishment of forcing her to open the gate herself since amekataa security fee. But imagine if these are the sorts of shidas you get in a gated community in membley, imagine the types of shidas you will get in apartment complexes in Lavi or Kilimani with 100+ units! You may find 30% have refused to pay and you have to resort to jambazi tactics to force them. Not worth the headache at all. Better to own your own boundaries and land and beautiful maisonette and live in total peace under the sun that gnash teeth with terrible neighbours who you are stuck with on the same mother title for life! True, some neighbours in any gated community whether it is in DC or in the inner city will refuse to pay the service charge. I know a friend who joined hands with neighbours in Athiriver to gate their compounds together and agreed to contribute 1k per month for the shared guard, well he told me some don't pay and the problem is they don't have a management team so the stress trickles down to the ones paying. In places like Kilimani, and Lavington, the headache is always outsourced to a management team contracted by the owners, as long as you pay your share, you will never need to know what commotion is going on if any. Can you imagine how stressed that lady's neighbours had to be to the extent of hurting her??? Life is too short for that kind of drama When Nairobi finally reaches DC, you will also be forced to start paying for service charges as well so that your shared amenities in the neighbourhood can be properly maintained, otherwise the place will deteriorate into a slum and an easy target for petty thieves. You can never escape service charges in fact, you should be very happy to pay it since it offers some guarantees which improve the quality of your life. new apartments and gated town houses in lavington, kile etc nowadays add a clause in their lease that if you don't pay service charge despite notice then you lose the apartment/town house.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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mkenyan wrote:NewMoney wrote:MugundaMan wrote:hardwood wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Mara oooo service charge; who paid and did not pay. Then there is always those three or four that go "on strike" and refuse to pay service charge. What will you do to make them pay - nada. Well, you can break their legs.... https://www.standardmedi...776901_1250943521670271
Quote:Ms Nyawira suffered a broken leg due to alleged harassment by some of her neighbours, who she claims have been harassing her after she refused to part with Sh2,500 every month for security. “I was recently attacked by some of my neighbours just because I told them that I could not contribute Sh2,500 every month for security. The neighbourhood management has now instructed the watchmen not to open the main gate for me,” said Nyawira. The mother of three said she was attacked by six men and women from her neighbourhood late last year after she refused to pay. Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family. Quote:Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family. I do not agree with the violence meted on her but I 100% agree with the soft punishment of forcing her to open the gate herself since amekataa security fee. But imagine if these are the sorts of shidas you get in a gated community in membley, imagine the types of shidas you will get in apartment complexes in Lavi or Kilimani with 100+ units! You may find 30% have refused to pay and you have to resort to jambazi tactics to force them. Not worth the headache at all. Better to own your own boundaries and land and beautiful maisonette and live in total peace under the sun that gnash teeth with terrible neighbours who you are stuck with on the same mother title for life! True, some neighbours in any gated community whether it is in DC or in the inner city will refuse to pay the service charge. I know a friend who joined hands with neighbours in Athiriver to gate their compounds together and agreed to contribute 1k per month for the shared guard, well he told me some don't pay and the problem is they don't have a management team so the stress trickles down to the ones paying. In places like Kilimani, and Lavington, the headache is always outsourced to a management team contracted by the owners, as long as you pay your share, you will never need to know what commotion is going on if any. Can you imagine how stressed that lady's neighbours had to be to the extent of hurting her??? Life is too short for that kind of drama When Nairobi finally reaches DC, you will also be forced to start paying for service charges as well so that your shared amenities in the neighbourhood can be properly maintained, otherwise the place will deteriorate into a slum and an easy target for petty thieves. You can never escape service charges in fact, you should be very happy to pay it since it offers some guarantees which improve the quality of your life. new apartments and gated town houses in lavington, kile etc nowadays add a clause in their lease that if you don't pay service charge despite notice then you lose the apartment/town house. Whaaaat? How do you lose your 15m apartment due to some 10k petty cash? What if I opt not to be a member of the residents association and instead decide to employ some ferocious moran to stand at my door 24/7 at 7k each month for my security? Or employ no one and leave everything to the almighty and His guardian angels?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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hardwood wrote:mkenyan wrote:NewMoney wrote:MugundaMan wrote:hardwood wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Mara oooo service charge; who paid and did not pay. Then there is always those three or four that go "on strike" and refuse to pay service charge. What will you do to make them pay - nada. Well, you can break their legs.... https://www.standardmedi...776901_1250943521670271
Quote:Ms Nyawira suffered a broken leg due to alleged harassment by some of her neighbours, who she claims have been harassing her after she refused to part with Sh2,500 every month for security. “I was recently attacked by some of my neighbours just because I told them that I could not contribute Sh2,500 every month for security. The neighbourhood management has now instructed the watchmen not to open the main gate for me,” said Nyawira. The mother of three said she was attacked by six men and women from her neighbourhood late last year after she refused to pay. Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family. Quote:Nyawira is now forced to open the gate for herself with her broken leg, regardless of whether it is raining or not since the guards have been instructed not to open the gate for her or her family. I do not agree with the violence meted on her but I 100% agree with the soft punishment of forcing her to open the gate herself since amekataa security fee. But imagine if these are the sorts of shidas you get in a gated community in membley, imagine the types of shidas you will get in apartment complexes in Lavi or Kilimani with 100+ units! You may find 30% have refused to pay and you have to resort to jambazi tactics to force them. Not worth the headache at all. Better to own your own boundaries and land and beautiful maisonette and live in total peace under the sun that gnash teeth with terrible neighbours who you are stuck with on the same mother title for life! True, some neighbours in any gated community whether it is in DC or in the inner city will refuse to pay the service charge. I know a friend who joined hands with neighbours in Athiriver to gate their compounds together and agreed to contribute 1k per month for the shared guard, well he told me some don't pay and the problem is they don't have a management team so the stress trickles down to the ones paying. In places like Kilimani, and Lavington, the headache is always outsourced to a management team contracted by the owners, as long as you pay your share, you will never need to know what commotion is going on if any. Can you imagine how stressed that lady's neighbours had to be to the extent of hurting her??? Life is too short for that kind of drama When Nairobi finally reaches DC, you will also be forced to start paying for service charges as well so that your shared amenities in the neighbourhood can be properly maintained, otherwise the place will deteriorate into a slum and an easy target for petty thieves. You can never escape service charges in fact, you should be very happy to pay it since it offers some guarantees which improve the quality of your life. new apartments and gated town houses in lavington, kile etc nowadays add a clause in their lease that if you don't pay service charge despite notice then you lose the apartment/town house. Whaaaat? How do you lose your 15m apartment due to some 10k petty cash? What if I opt not to be a member of the residents association and instead decide to employ some ferocious moran to stand at my door 24/7 at 7k each month for my security? Or employ no one and leave everything to the almighty and His guardian angels? There is a clause that an owner of an apartment also has 1 share in the company which owns the plot of land where the apartments are built. When you come to selling your apartment or anything that requires charging of the property. The directors of the company will not sign or facilitate before you've paid all the service charges. Why trouble yourself opening the gate for yourself or disposing the garbage yourself.... And eventually these service charges will be paid?
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