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maka
#12001 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2019 4:37:30 AM
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obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
Kenya Airways’ decision to sack a pilot who refused to fly a faulty plane has come back to haunt the national carrier, which now risks paying John Miriti Mbarire Sh181 million.

Mr Mbarire had his contract terminated for causing a 34-minute delay in a flight from Nairobi to Kisumu in 2017, and for allegedly using wrong channels to request a sick day.

The pilot was at the time five years from retirement so he wants KQ ordered to pay his salary and allowances for the period, totalling Sh170.3 million, and damages of Sh11.3 million for unlawful dismissal.

Had he completed the last 69 months of his flying career at KQ, Mr Mbarire would have earned Sh65.2 million in salaries, Sh95.9 million in flying allowances, Sh6.2 million in insurance cover for himself and his family and Sh3 million in travel allowances.

KQ insists it rightfully dismissed the pilot. In its defence, the national carrier insists that Mr Mbarire had a history of run-ins with authorities and that his responses were considered insufficient by a panel that presided over his disciplinary hearings.



I have always said it here.... KQ HR and Legal dept has idiots..... They cost that company a lot of cash.... Bure kabisa....


How now?

When one staff in a company constantly refers to every senior manager as fool or idiot you have to know that the problem may not necessarily be with the management but the staff. In this case @maka


Am not the one having numerous court cases that I cant handle and screwing up all of them... The big one also coming up is the dismissal of Eng Oanda... Anyway... Sebastian is on his way out... Kazi imemshinda... I rem telling the fellow wont last... Habari ndio hiyo...
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obiero
#12002 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2019 5:27:30 AM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
Kenya Airways’ decision to sack a pilot who refused to fly a faulty plane has come back to haunt the national carrier, which now risks paying John Miriti Mbarire Sh181 million.

Mr Mbarire had his contract terminated for causing a 34-minute delay in a flight from Nairobi to Kisumu in 2017, and for allegedly using wrong channels to request a sick day.

The pilot was at the time five years from retirement so he wants KQ ordered to pay his salary and allowances for the period, totalling Sh170.3 million, and damages of Sh11.3 million for unlawful dismissal.

Had he completed the last 69 months of his flying career at KQ, Mr Mbarire would have earned Sh65.2 million in salaries, Sh95.9 million in flying allowances, Sh6.2 million in insurance cover for himself and his family and Sh3 million in travel allowances.

KQ insists it rightfully dismissed the pilot. In its defence, the national carrier insists that Mr Mbarire had a history of run-ins with authorities and that his responses were considered insufficient by a panel that presided over his disciplinary hearings.



I have always said it here.... KQ HR and Legal dept has idiots..... They cost that company a lot of cash.... Bure kabisa....


How now?

When one staff in a company constantly refers to every senior manager as fool or idiot you have to know that the problem may not necessarily be with the management but the staff. In this case @maka


Am not the one having numerous court cases that I cant handle and screwing up all of them... The big one also coming up is the dismissal of Eng Oanda... Anyway... Sebastian is on his way out... Kazi imemshinda... I rem telling the fellow wont last... Habari ndio hiyo...

This was a problematic staff who had several disciplinary matters including drunken predisposition.. Meanwhile, who clears the aircraft for serviceability? The flight engineer or the pilot? I mean, you expect the pilot to be aware of the mechanical state of the aircraft prior to each departure while on some short hops the pilot does not even disembark from the cockpit between two stops e.g Nairobi-Malindi for Jambojet.. The pilot is simply fed with the service data sheet and you know it
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maka
#12003 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2019 6:22:11 AM
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Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
Kenya Airways’ decision to sack a pilot who refused to fly a faulty plane has come back to haunt the national carrier, which now risks paying John Miriti Mbarire Sh181 million.

Mr Mbarire had his contract terminated for causing a 34-minute delay in a flight from Nairobi to Kisumu in 2017, and for allegedly using wrong channels to request a sick day.

The pilot was at the time five years from retirement so he wants KQ ordered to pay his salary and allowances for the period, totalling Sh170.3 million, and damages of Sh11.3 million for unlawful dismissal.

Had he completed the last 69 months of his flying career at KQ, Mr Mbarire would have earned Sh65.2 million in salaries, Sh95.9 million in flying allowances, Sh6.2 million in insurance cover for himself and his family and Sh3 million in travel allowances.

KQ insists it rightfully dismissed the pilot. In its defence, the national carrier insists that Mr Mbarire had a history of run-ins with authorities and that his responses were considered insufficient by a panel that presided over his disciplinary hearings.



I have always said it here.... KQ HR and Legal dept has idiots..... They cost that company a lot of cash.... Bure kabisa....


How now?

When one staff in a company constantly refers to every senior manager as fool or idiot you have to know that the problem may not necessarily be with the management but the staff. In this case @maka


Am not the one having numerous court cases that I cant handle and screwing up all of them... The big one also coming up is the dismissal of Eng Oanda... Anyway... Sebastian is on his way out... Kazi imemshinda... I rem telling the fellow wont last... Habari ndio hiyo...

This was a problematic staff who had several disciplinary matters including drunken predisposition.. Meanwhile, who clears the aircraft for serviceability? The flight engineer or the pilot? I mean, you expect the pilot to be aware of the mechanical state of the aircraft prior to each departure while on some short hops the pilot does not even disembark from the cockpit between two stops e.g Nairobi-Malindi for Jambojet.. The pilot is simply fed with the service data sheet and you know it


Mtalipa tu... More losses.
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maka
#12004 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2019 6:32:46 AM
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Btw @Obiero the only initiative that those Lolish consultants have done is turning HOTAC rates into a weekly bidding process... Thusthe lowest priced hotel gets the highest number of pax.... Apart from that they have done zero... Sebastian has no strategy.... Running around like a headless chicken...
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ArrestedDev
#12005 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:21:49 AM
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maka wrote:
Btw @Obiero the only initiative that those Lolish consultants have done is turning HOTAC rates into a weekly bidding process... Thusthe lowest priced hotel gets the highest number of pax.... Apart from that they have done zero... Sebastian has no strategy.... Running around like a headless chicken...


Bogus consultants. They should all go away with Mikosz. I hope MJ have seen it all. At least he had to clarify if JKIA falls through then there are options if the right person is at the top.

The pilot who is in court now should have been warned only. A warning letter was enough. If you read the grounds for dismissal as stated then all are so flimsy and he will carry the day in court.

An experienced pilot can run the pre-flight checklist, scan systems and conduct analysis to determine if the equipment is fit to fly.

A pilot can reject to fly a plane already cleared by an engineer.
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VituVingiSana
#12006 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:25:48 AM
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"Old KQ" should be put into administration.
"New KQ" should take on the assets and staff it wants.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Ericsson
#12007 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:32:57 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
"Old KQ" should be put into administration.
"New KQ" should take on the assets and staff it wants.


And how will old kq repay the sh.222bn debt
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VituVingiSana
#12008 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:43:48 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
"Old KQ" should be put into administration.
"New KQ" should take on the assets and staff it wants.


And how will old kq repay the sh.222bn debt

Do you think KQ in its current state can repay the net (assets-liabilities) loans it has taken on?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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xxxxx
#12009 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2019 10:34:53 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
"Old KQ" should be put into administration.
"New KQ" should take on the assets and staff it wants.


I am very sure you meant Receivership... No need to be politeShame on you Shame on you Shame on you
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Ericsson
#12010 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2019 10:50:37 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
"Old KQ" should be put into administration.
"New KQ" should take on the assets and staff it wants.


And how will old kq repay the sh.222bn debt

Do you think KQ in its current state can repay the net (assets-liabilities) loans it has taken on?


Yes it can with the right support and management
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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