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Will the registration of SIM cards Help curb Crime?
simonkabz
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:37:37 PM
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Ati accountability fm the top? Then we do the registration thereafter ama? To me, this is very CHEAP reasoning and precisely, DISTURBING. @tebes, tell us exactly how onyanja was caught!! Pliz do for the sake of integrity n the love of God!! Please!
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leona
#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:46:29 PM
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@Kabz
Onyancha wanted to be caught. Aren't you worried regarding the many years he killed and roamed free only to be 'caught' now? Where were the police all that time,and why had even the bodies ever been recovered?
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simonkabz
#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:48:30 PM
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Reg is one matter, police reforms is another one altogether. Maybe we should go back to zinjanthropus (sp) ways coz nothing seems to be gud 4 this pathetic country of whiners.
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mukiha
#14 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:36:15 AM
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SCOM's MJ sounded frustrated when he said that they spend a lot of time and resources helping police track down mobile phone crooks yet "no one is being prosecuted".

That captures the issue. Registering SIMS will be another wasted effort if criminals will not be prosecuted!

It is one thing to recover a kidnapped kid and yet another to catch and prosecute the kidnappers.

If you just do the recovery, the crooks will grab another kid, get paid some cash before the cops catch up. If they know the cops are nearby, they will take off leaving the kid behind....only to go and grab another one.

i will do my bit and register all my SIMS, but that alone will not reduce mobile crime by any measures if the crooks are not prosecuted.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#15 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:53:21 AM
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sheep wrote:
While it seems benevolent move...think again..big brother seeks to control your life..

this is the precedence to the famous "mark of the beast"

the Antichrist is near...na inaonekana many people will accept to be chipped damning their souls forever...

Onyancha is the Antichrist, and he was caught
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Phaoro
#16 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:10:06 PM
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Definately a step in the right direction. The fact that people know their sim is registered will serve to deter crime and it will now be much easier to connect the dots if a phone is used in a criminal event. This has been long overdue, this should have been done from the get go, when mobile phones were introduced in kenya. The are definately some concerns for such an exercise, How to prevent misuse of such information, how to uniquely associate an individual or company to a specific sim or multiple sims. You have to find a way of tying this sims to individuals otherwise it will be in vain. If this is not done carefully, it will turn out to be a useless exercise.
Kusadikika
#17 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2010 1:31:49 AM
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What is the opportunity cost of this move?? What is the economic value both to the Mobile phone providers and the country at large of the convenience of being able to walk anywhere downtown at any time and be able to buy a SIM card and phone without any hassles? What about tourists and other visitors who within minutes of landing in the country can easily communicate back to their country and are reachable instantly? Like someone mentioned all Mpesa accounts are registered already and still Onyancha used it and so did all those fellows in Kamiti who put fake job adverts on newspapers.

So now that all SIMS will be registered, who keeps the Database? What other information does it have that will be useful in tracing someone? His/her P.O. Box Number? Maoni yangu: If something is not broken don't fix it. Let people live and conduct business easily and efficiently. Strengthen the capability of the police force to trace signals and apprehend suspects but don't kill biashara in the name of security you cannot provide.
kadonye
#18 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2010 2:42:42 PM
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I'm with simonkabz on this.Kenya is a country of whiners.There is no gvt decision that we dont criticise/know a better way of doing it.

They're constructing Thika rd?why not make electric train network with that money?

This is a good move.It deters criminals,allows mobile phone service providers to do a census of their customers and makes it easy for police to catch crooks.

Currently, cops have to jam the network in a place where they suspect a crook is before locating him.In this new case the cops will have an idea of whose phone was used and thus make it even much easier to tack them down.

Plus I have witnessed a case where someone bought a SIM card, sent himself a threatening SMS on his regular line and claimed it was his neighbour.Such crap will surely end!

Just because police are dragging their feet in investigations doesn't mean we reject this positive move.

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Rahatupu
#19 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2010 4:49:30 PM
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@simonkabz, Robinhood, and Kadonoye, well said. We complain and do nothing and when a solution is given we complain even more - Wakenya! My take: Just like the burglar proof door to our houses, they reduce/deter theft/burglary but don't stop/eliminate them. SIM registration will likewise deter and reduce beside helping give clues to investigations. A move in the right direction.

@Mukiha, the cost element is implicit in any such operation and beside do we complain of the cost of extra security measures in our own homes, offices as unnecessary?
wasee
#20 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2010 5:28:56 PM
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what happens when your phone is stolen and your sim used to engage in criminal activities. I think this will promote phone theft and also forgery of documents such as ID.

Its a good step but the above challenges need to be addressed so that innocent persons don't become victims.
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