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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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This case reminds me of the saga concerning the newly constructed 38 floor Opal tower apartment building in Sydney Australia that developed cracks and doors couldn't open. The home owners had to be evacuated by firefighters with concerns that the tower could collapse. https://www.theguardian....-51-units-deemed-unsafe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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hardwood wrote:Chaka wrote:And who were the project architects..?I believe the architects are supposed to verify that construction is as per design..stage to stage,ie unless the architects goofed in the design from the start? Forester wrote:
@Hardwood, the design flaw is in the lounge/sitting room. 3 blocks 34 units having the same problem. I gave up on these guys. They ran to Itrade Gardens and now ITrade Park.
I have seen that design where a giant window runs from the floor to the ceiling and beyond to the next floor. That leaves a small gap between the slab and the window grills and that's where the sound is channeled through. So it is an architectural design flaw. That said I have lived in an apartment and it was the worst experience. The kids upstairs would play football and drag chairs in their sitting room daily till midnight. I couldn't watch a movie in peace. Then when I get to the bedroom their parents upstairs would be doing it daily and the whole night with the bed creaking endlessly. Imagine that scenario when my wife amefura and hasn't spoken to me for 2 weeks while the couple upstairs wako honeymoon 24/7? Then the toilets upstairs would be flushing all the time and at odd hours interrupting your sleep. Apartment living ni shida. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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murchr wrote:Forester wrote:I will not mention names but will mention the company. ITrade Company LtdStill have conversations on record (e-mail and whatsapp) with the main guy and the site managers. Finally, was told to pambana na hali yangu as warranty period had pitad. Very unfair yet issues were brought to their attention before warranty period was over. The worst thing is hearing your neighbors conversations like you are in the same room, you could be eating and neighbors are landing, they could be having a party and you want some peace, they could be watching Citizen and you want NTV. Phase 1 guys complained of the above, they should have corrected the anomaly in phase II but wapi. Wazua sleuths can get the names of the directors and post them here. We need to shame these thieves otherwise we can forget anything integrity. https://www.nation.co.ke...850826-shoqor/index.html
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/15/2013 Posts: 301
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Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:[quote=Forester]I will not mention names but will mention the company. ITrade Company LtdStill have conversations on record (e-mail and whatsapp) with the main guy and the site managers. Finally, was told to pambana na hali yangu as warranty period had pitad. Very unfair yet issues were brought to their attention before warranty period was over. The worst thing is hearing your neighbors conversations like you are in the same room, you could be eating and neighbors are landing, they could be having a party and you want some peace, they could be watching Citizen and you want NTV. Phase 1 guys complained of the above, they should have corrected the anomaly in phase II but wapi. Wazua sleuths can get the names of the directors and post them here. We need to shame these thieves otherwise we can forget anything integrity. https://www.nation.co.ke...50826-shoqor/index.html[/quote] that's MM??
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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mulla wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:[quote=Forester]I will not mention names but will mention the company. ITrade Company LtdStill have conversations on record (e-mail and whatsapp) with the main guy and the site managers. Finally, was told to pambana na hali yangu as warranty period had pitad. Very unfair yet issues were brought to their attention before warranty period was over. The worst thing is hearing your neighbors conversations like you are in the same room, you could be eating and neighbors are landing, they could be having a party and you want some peace, they could be watching Citizen and you want NTV. Phase 1 guys complained of the above, they should have corrected the anomaly in phase II but wapi. Wazua sleuths can get the names of the directors and post them here. We need to shame these thieves otherwise we can forget anything integrity. https://www.nation.co.ke...50826-shoqor/index.html[/quote] that's MM?? So this lofty stories rags to riches are never true, ukora mwingi along the way.  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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"Itrade has also brought in three other shareholders — an architect, an electrical engineer and a structural engineer" So its like for earlier projects,this expertise was lacking? [quote=Lolest!] https://www.nation.co.ke...50826-shoqor/index.html[/quote]
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Angelica _ann wrote:mulla wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:[quote=Forester]I will not mention names but will mention the company. ITrade Company LtdStill have conversations on record (e-mail and whatsapp) with the main guy and the site managers. Finally, was told to pambana na hali yangu as warranty period had pitad. Very unfair yet issues were brought to their attention before warranty period was over. The worst thing is hearing your neighbors conversations like you are in the same room, you could be eating and neighbors are landing, they could be having a party and you want some peace, they could be watching Citizen and you want NTV. Phase 1 guys complained of the above, they should have corrected the anomaly in phase II but wapi. Wazua sleuths can get the names of the directors and post them here. We need to shame these thieves otherwise we can forget anything integrity. https://www.nation.co.ke...50826-shoqor/index.html[/quote] that's MM?? So this lofty stories rags to riches are never true, ukora mwingi along the way.  Story tellers...cutting corners everywhere "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:mulla wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:[quote=Forester]I will not mention names but will mention the company. ITrade Company LtdStill have conversations on record (e-mail and whatsapp) with the main guy and the site managers. Finally, was told to pambana na hali yangu as warranty period had pitad. Very unfair yet issues were brought to their attention before warranty period was over. The worst thing is hearing your neighbors conversations like you are in the same room, you could be eating and neighbors are landing, they could be having a party and you want some peace, they could be watching Citizen and you want NTV. Phase 1 guys complained of the above, they should have corrected the anomaly in phase II but wapi. Wazua sleuths can get the names of the directors and post them here. We need to shame these thieves otherwise we can forget anything integrity. https://www.nation.co.ke...50826-shoqor/index.html[/quote] that's MM?? So this lofty stories rags to riches are never true, ukora mwingi along the way. Story tellers...cutting corners everywhere Kwanza this story of gated community being 6 houses has to end. A gated community is 100 plus homes. Sio I build 3 houses put a gate and call it gated community. Anyway, I await MM's reply. I think this week I'm learning to sharap until I see the evidence. MM kazi kwako. But this looks bad. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/27/2016 Posts: 274 Location: Pub
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hardwood wrote:Chaka wrote:And who were the project architects..?I believe the architects are supposed to verify that construction is as per design..stage to stage,ie unless the architects goofed in the design from the start? Forester wrote:
@Hardwood, the design flaw is in the lounge/sitting room. 3 blocks 34 units having the same problem. I gave up on these guys. They ran to Itrade Gardens and now ITrade Park.
I have seen that design where a giant window runs from the floor to the ceiling and beyond to the next floor. That leaves a small gap between the slab and the window grills and that's where the sound is channeled through. So it is an architectural design flaw. That said I have lived in an apartment and it was the worst experience. The kids upstairs would play football and drag chairs in their sitting room daily till midnight. I couldn't watch a movie in peace. Then when I get to the bedroom their parents upstairs would be doing it daily and the whole night with the bed creaking endlessly. Imagine that scenario when my wife amefura and hasn't spoken to me for 2 weeks while the couple upstairs wako honeymoon 24/7? Then the toilets upstairs would be flushing all the time and at odd hours interrupting your sleep. Apartment living ni shida. Apartments need a thread on its own... I work so I can afford the amount of alcohol required to continue going to work
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/7/2010 Posts: 520 Location: Epicentre - Ngamia 1
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Chaka wrote:And who were the project architects..?I believe the architects are supposed to verify that construction is as per design..stage to stage,ie unless the architects goofed in the design from the start? Forester wrote:
@Hardwood, the design flaw is in the lounge/sitting room. 3 blocks 34 units having the same problem. I gave up on these guys. They ran to Itrade Gardens and now ITrade Park.
Architects were probably directors or have shares within ITrade. I doubt they'd give 2 hoots when ITrade Gardens (read more shafting) was underway. Am certain that some Wazuans know MM and other directors of ITrade. Mwambieni akuje hapa maybe they'll be jolted to take action. The problem with him is that he knows what he did and gives flimsy reasons ati 'our margins are thin'. Bure kabisa! Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs - Farrah Gray.
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