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CFC Stanbic vs I and M
tom_boy
#1 Posted : Tuesday, January 01, 2019 2:18:52 PM
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Similarly valued
Similar earnings
Similar price to book
Similar cash flows
Similar asset sizes
Similar Equity

Which will out perform the other?
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young
#2 Posted : Tuesday, January 01, 2019 10:06:40 PM
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CFC stanbic from dividend yield angle.

FY 17

I&M 3.00 Bob

CFC 5.25 Bob


FY 18
Not out but CFC also paid 2.25 interim dividend. Projected final is 5.00 Bob

I&M projected at most 4.00 Bob in total.


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Horton
#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 02, 2019 8:02:25 AM
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tom_boy wrote:
Similarly valued
Similar earnings
Similar price to book
Similar cash flows
Similar asset sizes
Similar Equity

Which will out perform the other?

=Similar performance 😆
Ericsson
#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 02, 2019 9:14:56 AM
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young wrote:
CFC stanbic from dividend yield angle.

FY 17

I&M 3.00 Bob

CFC 5.25 Bob


FY 18
Not out but CFC also paid 2.25 interim dividend. Projected final is 5.00 Bob

I&M projected at most 4.00 Bob in total.




What are the respective issued shares of both of them
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tom_boy
#5 Posted : Thursday, January 24, 2019 11:44:55 AM
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And I&M is pulling ahead.....
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
jmbada
#6 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2019 10:36:23 AM
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young wrote:
CFC stanbic from dividend yield angle.

FY 17

I&M 3.00 Bob

CFC 5.25 Bob


FY 18
Not out but CFC also paid 2.25 interim dividend. Projected final is 5.00 Bob

I&M projected at most 4.00 Bob in total.



Agree. CFC needs to repatriate more earnings to S.A. whereas I&M key shareholders are here so less worried about keeping more profits in the business. The question always remains whether or not it is better to return some funds to shareholders or re-invest in the business if you, as the Manager, believe you can give a better return than any other publicly-comparable benchmark. For instance, Warren Buffet has thus always benchmarked his performance against the S&P 500. So, if I&M or Stanbic management can provide better returns than the NSE, they actually should retain the funds in the business and minimize the dividends. IMHO....
Pesa Nane
#7 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2019 12:46:41 PM
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young wrote:
CFC stanbic from dividend yield angle.

FY 17

I&M 3.00 Bob

CFC 5.25 Bob


FY 18
Not out but CFC
also paid 2.25 interim dividend. Projected final is 5.00 Bob

I&M projected at most 4.00 Bob in total.




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Superprime1
#8 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2019 1:42:12 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
young wrote:
CFC stanbic from dividend yield angle.

FY 17

I&M 3.00 Bob

CFC 5.25 Bob


FY 18
Not out but CFC
also paid 2.25 interim dividend. Projected final is 5.00 Bob

I&M projected at most 4.00 Bob in total.




Expected end of day today

What's expected end of day today @PesaNane?
Mastermind
#9 Posted : Thursday, February 28, 2019 3:29:31 PM
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Location: Langley
Superprime1 wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
young wrote:
CFC stanbic from dividend yield angle.

FY 17

I&M 3.00 Bob

CFC 5.25 Bob


FY 18
Not out but CFC
also paid 2.25 interim dividend. Projected final is 5.00 Bob

I&M projected at most 4.00 Bob in total.




Expected end of day today

What's expected end of day today @PesaNane?


FY2018
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tom_boy
#10 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2019 8:57:53 AM
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Mastermind wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
young wrote:
CFC stanbic from dividend yield angle.

FY 17

I&M 3.00 Bob

CFC 5.25 Bob


FY 18
Not out but CFC
also paid 2.25 interim dividend. Projected final is 5.00 Bob

I&M projected at most 4.00 Bob in total.




Expected end of day today

What's expected end of day today @PesaNane?


FY2018

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They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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